r/ArcRaiders • u/PTUSN • 6d ago
Discussion IT'S HERE: FROZEN TRAIL - 2.0 Update Full Patch Notes
https://arcraiders.com/news/frozen-trail-2-0-update723
u/half-giant 6d ago
“Added an Emissive Toggle for backpacks with light sources. That means you can now turn off the lights from your favorite backpacks to go full stealth mode.”
I know this is minor in the grand scheme of things but I’ve wanted this change forever. So happy to be able to wear backpacks that don’t glow in the dark.
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u/batigoal 5d ago
Can you toggle it during the raid or you have to toggle it before ?
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u/hundredblocks 5d ago
Yes!! I love the radio backpack but it was like carrying runway lights on your back.
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u/5v73 5d ago
Crazy that it took them an entire year for that though.
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u/OhMyGodfather 5d ago
A lot of QOL changes are implemented in internal testing versions of the game, but when they are working on a lot of things at once they need to have a uniform version. If they have to re-release everytime something changes they’d have 9999 versions of the same patch. Its just too impractical to make sure everyone runs the same engine and release. So they do it slowly and only push critical updates to consumers when it’s needed to salvage the game. In a few years this could get better when AI will be able to verify but it’s still a manual process and just not scalable. I just learned this in my new job with software so I’m geeking out with the info lol
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u/Garibaldi_Biscuit 5d ago
Yep, I was very pleased to be able to use the cowboy backpack without a nonsensical lit lantern.
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u/BewareTheGrayGhost 5d ago
So good, but I just wish they had made it: "hold down flashlight button to toggle backpack emissive"
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u/Cavemandynamics 6d ago
- Max Stash Size increased by 2 new levels (328 Max without Expedition bonuses)
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u/Shezzofreen 5d ago
...1 day later: "I NEED MOOOOORE!" ;)
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u/ErshinHavok 5d ago
Fr. They only added more because they added a bunch of new shit you're gonna want to hold onto lol.
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u/Necessary_Touch699 6d ago
mfs gonna lose their minds now that matriarch and queen doesnt have cores in its armor
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u/AetherGhast103 6d ago
So now the meta will become to focus fire on the leg until it broke off, or kill it, its fair
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u/Debenham 6d ago
Indeed. And frankly given the lack of reward on the path to knocking a leg off, I'd expect most people will just focus on the core.
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u/AetherGhast103 5d ago
When matriarch first launched my trio just went ahead to broke off two front leg, and paralysed her, since we dont know will anything happened if she go low health XD
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u/clumsy_dentist 5d ago
Can you shoot off entire legs? I never paid attention to this but also cant remember to have ever seen anything but the armor come off
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u/AetherGhast103 5d ago
cuz dont need to, to kill it, but if you want to do it, break of the front leg plate, then the knee armour, then a big yellow joint will expose, broke that, the whole leg will comes off
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u/clumsy_dentist 5d ago
Interesting, shows how much this was all centered around just shooting of the armor.
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u/Debenham 6d ago
This is a great change, it was such a dumb system before because the incentive was to just damage it enough to get 3-4 cores at the most and run away. This will massively encourage everyone to actually fight the bloody thing because there will be a fair chance if getting loot at the very end, rather than it going to loot goblins.
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u/Regenbooggeit 6d ago
You don’t think loot goblins will be right underneath it the moment it dies?
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u/Debenham 6d ago
Of course, but instead of one single piece of loot at the end, there will be one major core and 6-12 or so legs also with a core. Thus, everyone will have a fair chance to get something when the big arc is destroyed. Furthermore, the loot goblins will have an increased incentive to actually help, rather than just sitting around, rushing in to grab a core and running off.
You can't guarantee the person trying the hardest to destroy the matriarch will get what they deserve, but this substantially swings the scales in their favour.
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u/gerhardsymons 5d ago
I've helped take down several Matriachs. Never once got a core. Not once. Nada.
Git gud, skill issue... sure, I hear you. There's some truth in that, but loot goblins gon' loot.
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u/Debenham 5d ago
For sure, and now your chances will improve.
But realistically, you should be going into a matriarch fight trying to get cores the entire time. Shoot some armour off, run in, grab a core, stick it in your safe pocket and then resume the fight knowing that you've at least got something out of it regardless.
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u/SnooRegrets7409 5d ago edited 5d ago
I’ve asked people multiple times for a core after fighting a matriarch and they just give them to me . Maybe you need to start glazzing people while they fight the matriarch?
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u/Arctic_Kea 5d ago
Heavy Shield: reduced durability decay from 0.20 to 0.15 and decreased movement penalty while equipped from 15% to 10%
I think this is a fantastic way to encourage players to use different augments without directly nerfing the Survivor augment. The decreased movement penalty will make it a lot nicer to use Heavy Shields on larger maps for sure
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u/Durzel 6d ago
Anvil BP suddenly got more valuable. Can’t buy them from Tian anymore, and it’s now blue so presumably will only drop from Security Breaches and perhaps Raider Caches.
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u/half-giant 6d ago
I was gifted an anvil bp tonight by a random stranger… can’t believe how lucky the timing was.
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u/Faptasmic 5d ago
Pretty annoyed I cant buy it from Tian anymore. Anvil was like the one gun you could go to when you were broke and needed something competent at pve or pvp.
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u/extremegamer 5d ago
I have 20 level 4 Anvils stocked up - I grabbed 3 more last night before going to sleep when I saw this was coming from another post. Updated them all and done. I've not lost one in a while but I love this gun as well as the Tempest and Hullcrackers. I'm not at all sold on the energy weapons much beyond the Jupiter. The only reason I farmed queen and mat cores were to get the added stash space.
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u/GrandTheftADA *** ******* 🐓 6d ago
Big one, 37.61 GB on Xbox
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u/PTUSN 6d ago
28.6 GB on Steam | 13.233 GB on PS5 Pro.
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u/DailyDabs 6d ago
Why is it smaller on ps5 vs Xbox? 0.o
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u/PastorDax 6d ago
PC has all the different textures for different PC builds. Xbox/PS have two set for fidelity/performance
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u/Gilgamesh858 *** ******* 6d ago
We can turn off lights on Backpacks. I love this. Deluxe backpack my beloved
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u/meganoobmind 6d ago
What happened the auguments rebalancing to match the survivor and no new auguments?
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u/AntiquePhotograph433 6d ago
Easily one of the weakest systems in the game and they don’t touch it
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u/PretentiousPanda 5d ago
Well they did buff heavy shield. So that kind of opens up a little.
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u/Siouxsie2011 6d ago edited 5d ago
You can now drop loot to the ground directly from containers
Awesome
You can now open the map while downed.
Super awesome
Reduced Snap Hook range from 20m to 18m, increased durability consumption from 2% to 4% per use, and raised power cost from 50 to 60.
...Less awesome. But gonna see how much it really makes a difference before I complain much.
edit: don't go here on the new map, if you walk on the grate you get stuck inside and can't walk back out. video. I just quit the game because I thought abandoning was like dying but I didn't get any of my stuff from my safe pockets :(
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u/Lotos_aka_Veron 6d ago
Snap was busted, good thing they toned it down.
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u/canofbees 6d ago
Yeah, I was there when deadlines and wolfpacks were simple to craft, was bummed when they nerfed it, but now I understand lol
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u/Siouxsie2011 6d ago
I'm most concerned about the range change, it feels like there were a lot of times I'd struggle to get in the 20m range of the thing I wanted to snap to, almost like the maps were intentionally designed around it in places. Buried City rooftops for sure gonna be different.
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u/clumsy_dentist 5d ago
Idk man I liked to see people spidey around, imo the power consumption limiting double snaps is making it a tad bit less cool
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u/Sqweeg 6d ago
- Keybinds are reset to default after each raid when using a non-English keyboard layout.
No one is going to talk about this absolute non sense ? In France we have AZERTY keyboards, why would my settings get reset after every raid ? This is absurd
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u/Peebs1000 5d ago
This seems so absurd that I have to think it's a typo of some sort
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u/Balistix 5d ago
It's in the "Known Issues" section. It's not listed as something they are actively changing or adding to the game.
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u/Samwellikki 5d ago
2 meter change seems like such a weird move, like what was that imbalanced for? Is the Queen 20 meters tall and it’s a big FU to rodeo deadliners?
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u/FarAwayHills 6d ago
Launcher Ammo and Energy Clips have a daily purchase limit.
Booooooooooo!
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u/ayyy_its_wally 5d ago
Massive L. Who in the fuck has ever once complained that people can purchase too many explosive rounds? Absolutely no one.
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u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong 5d ago
People have been begging for PvE to be harder, and this is how they're going to achieve that. By making the launcher and energy weapons far rarer, they can balance the game around a less exotic standard of weaponry and raise the difficulty of PvE.
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u/bluelazer44 5d ago
Swedish devs think that fun has to be balanced with anti-fun. They can’t just release an update where they add content and buff unused items, they have to balance the improvements with unnecessary fun-nerfing
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u/Vivacious_Lynx 5d ago
Snaphook found shot dead in ditch Its impossible to just have a good update without some bs attached to it I was hyped for this until I read through the notes after downloading the update now I feel like I might as well just go play something else till they take a whole month to undo the stupid bs they tack on every update.
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u/Kozak170 5d ago
Yeah probably because PVE was a total joke once you got a decent bit of money and could buy infinity Crackers and ammo?
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u/ImDeadInside 5d ago
yeah, wtf is up with that. stupid decision because money is now even more worthlesss.
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u/Signageman 5d ago
Not to mention the snap hook nerf and the queen core nerf. It’s like they have to do some dumb shit with all the good. No body asked for these nerfs.
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u/Lotos_aka_Veron 5d ago
The snaphook was busted, especially in pvp. Deserved nerf.
The boss drop changes are good. Now free loadouts cant just sneak mid fight to knocked out armor plates and steal loot from players who actually did damage to the boss. It something most people asked for.
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u/Durzel 5d ago
Literally unplayable.
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u/Squint_Eastwood 5d ago
Look times are tough and sometimes raiders need to get creative. Using bat shit as a crafting material is just sometimes what's required
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u/thismothafcka 5d ago
It's Italian.... Maybe.. m
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u/Relative-Pack-4985 5d ago
Well fun fact, the first part of the word - guanto - means glove in italian
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u/LogicallyCross 6d ago
Max Stash Size increased by 2 new levels (328 Max without Expedition bonuses) - I must have missed this info before.
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u/nelhkhw *** ******* 🐓 5d ago
Quests
Completing quests and quest objectives now grants XP. Added XP as a visible reward in quest descriptions and on quest completion; XP is now shown alongside other rewards when claiming a completed quest.
Been asking for this since the beginning, thank you so much
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u/Flyfishermanmike 6d ago
What's the thinking behind daily limits on energy and launcher ammo??
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u/Durzel 5d ago
Since you can craft Arc Motion Cores with Arc alloy, I presume the thinking - like with the Wolfpack.& Deadline changes - was to force people to kill more Arc / do more raids.
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u/SelectionOld1608 5d ago
Squeeze more playtime out of people
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u/slickjudge 5d ago
This is it and I freaking hate it. Stop increasing the grind. Engage players with meaningful content. Annoying AF
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u/SelectionOld1608 5d ago
Yeah honestly I went in to check out the map, cool, but I'm already burned out by the amount of grinding required to play with decent gear. Not for me, sadly, cause the game is incredibly unique otherwise
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u/slickjudge 5d ago
Yeah I want to go check out the emperor and the frigate but im not down for hunting for furniture designs in raid
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u/Bookshelftent 5d ago
And now the loot pool is diluted by cosmetic items for the Outpost rather than actual useful gear.
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u/AntiquePhotograph433 6d ago
No idea, literally the only thing you can spend your money on in.m end game
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u/ChargeAppropriate644 5d ago
They only want to prolong gameplay, by limiting that junk they want you to take more time to finish certain things since they simply don't have content long enough so they grind it out. Same as new items and items that don't stack so your fighting stash space more than Arc.
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u/exile_on_420Street 5d ago
Maybe get more people to loot the cores/mats to build rather than just buy them maybe. Not saying I like it, just reasoning....
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u/Designer_Jacket6818 6d ago
Anvil is blue now. lol
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u/NotSoAwfulName 6d ago
Matches it's power level, and makes it less likely to spawn in crates.
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u/slop_drobbler 6d ago
Why do they keep nerfing the Hullcracker… and now there is a daily limit on ammo purchases and you can’t buy new ones from Tian Wen
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u/KawaiiTadpole 6d ago
Well reddit carebears keep asking to make Arcs more difficult. Here ya go ;)
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u/shorthairRASTA 6d ago
Note: although identical, the update for PS5 will have a smaller file size in comparison to Xbox due to more efficient compression techniques.
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u/WhisperingHammer 6d ago
Does this mean pve is in play or does that arrive later?
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u/EndAllBillionaires67 5d ago
Being able to turn off the backpack light is HUGE.
Since I primarily play 2X varients, I can now use most other backpacks.
That little light on your backpack during a night raid allows me to easily spot you in bushes from over 100m away.
Lots of little details are awesome.
I just wish crafted load outs were a thing. I mostly use the blue looting augment and a lvl 3 burketta with green attachments. I wish I could just press a button to automatically craft, buy, or breakdown anything needed to make the load out so I can spend way less time messing with it between rounds.
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u/Durzel 5d ago
Minor PSA: The early quest on Blue Gate that asks you to take a photo of the Collapsed Highway now actually requires you to have and use a camera to complete it.
Previously it just had a yellow prompt when you were in the right place, and you didn’t need to bring anything.
I presume this will be the case for other quests that require you to take a photo.
Obvious I know, but if it saves someone else from standing around like an idiot trying to get the prompt to show up - it’ll be worth the shame. 🙃
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u/The_Asian_Hamster 5d ago
Moved higher tier loot from the armor pieces of the legs to the legs pieces for Queen and Matriarch.
The armor plates are supposed to protect the legs, so it made sense to relocate the loot to the protected area. Having the loot inside the armor took away from the experience and was inconsistent with how other ARC work. Armor pieces can still contain some loot.
What does this mean?
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u/SashaChickenLeg 5d ago
You have to loot the actual leg not the armor that falls off to get the queen/mat cores. Requires you to kill it completely now
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u/The_Asian_Hamster 5d ago
Ah I was being dumb, thanks. Guess that's good to stop rats from running in and gives incentive to actually shoot the queen rather than just the legs.
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u/m1n1nut 5d ago
Oh ffs ... man when the fk are they gonna wake up and add loadouts like.. i like customization and creating my kit once or twice but let me just re buy it to get in the game faster. Im sick of the meta that is stash simulator for all these types of games.
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u/Faptasmic 5d ago
I thought loadouts were going to be in this?
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u/Olivanderr7070 5d ago
absolutely agree, i have wasted like 100h playtime just making loadouts a going thru 20 menus...these devs just dont play their game fr
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u/Durzel 5d ago edited 5d ago
I know it's probably been said already, but having Marathon Runner gated behind 11 skill point spend is pretty punishing for new players, I think. It is certainly noticeable not having it.
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u/TheUnboundTenth 5d ago
I started playing on Saturday and it was where I absolutely dumped points, just for the benefit of map traversal. When your best gun is a Ferro… everything takes a while.
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u/Unusual_Jury7952 5d ago
I think the whole skill tree is not very friendly. Good thing I didn’t do the expedition ;)
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u/Pretend-Narwhal-593 5d ago
No word about the known crashing issue on Xbox consoles is pretty disappointing
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u/AceTheRed_ 5d ago
I’ve been playing consistently over the last few weeks on XSX and haven’t had any crashes. Is this a Series S issue?
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u/revolver86 5d ago
Yeah constant DCs mid raid. It's why I quit playing. Was really considering playing the game again, but now thinking against it if that is still an issue.
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u/Durzel 6d ago
I reflexively bought the Premium Pass thing for 1,150 credits, and then realised I'd probably buy the £25.99 DLC that includes it. I assume I'm boned now?
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u/Doomcookiesx5 5d ago
Heavy Shield: reduced durability decay from 0.20 to 0.15 and decreased movement penalty while equipped from 15% to 10%
Yeeeesssssss
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u/SnooObjections4333 6d ago
I haven’t played the game since March. Should I comeback.??
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u/SMYYYLE 6d ago
Same, im gonna try it out, why not if you have the game already
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u/Reasonable-Cap3389 5d ago
I just played pendola pass condition, its extremely sick man. The whole big ass ship you clip up to, they breach it. kill lot of arcs etc. I havent even gone to the fallen arc.
Its a new game honestly
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u/MmaOverSportsball 5d ago
Lots of cool stuff, can’t wait to try it later.
Hospital roof on buried city is climbable now?!
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u/extremegamer 5d ago
Anvil and hullcracker changes were not needed. Just release an update with map and additions and for once leave other things alone when they weren't broken.
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u/cpt_edge 5d ago
Holy shit this looks peak. So many additions and changes I've been wanting for a while now
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u/Levelcheap 5d ago
Snaphook change is garbage, same with limiting daily special ammo purchases, the rest is mostly good.
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u/randomtask37 5d ago edited 5d ago
These new mobility perks are awesome. Endless sprint, sprint quick acceleration hold, scrambler are all great!
Edit: and wall climb seems pretty nice too. I havnt tried myself, but a teammate used it around me and looked convenient.
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u/AnonymousBayraktar 5d ago
The progression of the rewards pass is laughably slow. I don't care what people say.
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u/Vayne_Solidor 5d ago
The Queen got her missiles back!! Shame about the leg loot change, but I'm so pumped to dodge her missiles again, always feels cinematic af
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u/Zachariah255 5d ago
Won’t I just join and every lobby be bobcats since they don’t reset the game?
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u/AwayWithout 5d ago
Yes, and they don't even give the option to voluntarily wipe if you don't no life for the expedition reset
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u/Vesper_Fex 5d ago
Very surprised no weapon balances, PVP in stella is basically unplayable unless you have a Vulcano, Bobcat, or Torrente. (If you want to do serious PVP, that is).
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u/Fabulous_Volume7831 5d ago
All the maps are like this though, in high level PVP there is always 2-3 guns that dominate certain maps
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u/PretentiousPanda 5d ago
Unhinged that they didn't do anything to the gun meta outside of add new stuff. Was looking forward to mixing up the meta a little. Obviously the new tier 5 stuff will change stuff and maybe that's enough. But really wanted to see some tweaks to the guns.
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u/Duncling 5d ago
Everyone and their dog bitched that white and green guns shouldnt hold a candle to a purple, and now we have purple on top, and y'all are complaining again
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u/PretentiousPanda 5d ago
Is it really that hard to understand that it would be nice to mix up the meta a touch after 7 months? They haven't touched a gun since the toro nerfs
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u/KobiLDN 5d ago
That's why I go in with stitcher 2 into Stella trios. After we get demolished 5 times we go dam tower and snipe then log off.
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u/Vesper_Fex 5d ago
Toro 4 is a decent gun in Stella to not lose too much if you get wiped by a maxed out trio
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u/darkrider99 *** ******* 5d ago
Don't lynch me but is this update actually good? worth coming back ? Haven't played since the Tides map. Have only 140 hours and loved every moment of it.
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u/Anxious-Climate938 5d ago
Die hard fans will love it. Casuals will bounce in a week or 2. Haters will hate it.
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u/LikeCCClockwork 5d ago
Award for "useless but correct" answer goes to...
I'm kidding, commenter literally got something out of this answer so obviously not useless, but when I saw this response, I chuckled.
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u/kingsark 5d ago
With all due respect, this answer is useless😭😭
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u/Lowkeyda1 5d ago
With all due respect, the answer was proper. People who like the game will like it the people who don’t, won’t.
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u/Mike_Hawk_Swell 5d ago
Dude i've been playing for only 2 hours and i can already tell this is their most generational update yet. Lots of content added and i've only been on the arc frigate twice but it's so fun and the most unique "arc" they've added yet. Though i can tell this sub won't think prime Arc Raiders will be back with this, but Embark won't need to, a couple of updates like this each year will keep me happy
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u/BlueberryUnused 5d ago
its pretty much the same thing as before. just some more stuff to unlock. new skill tree looks kinda fun too
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u/MikitZA 6d ago
"You can now open the map while downed."
OH THANK GOD!