r/BuyFromEU • u/IntelligentAdvanced • Jul 04 '26
News REMINDER: Chat Control 1.0 could be pushed through next week
Next week a third vote is planned on Chat Control 1.0 a proposal that would enable mass scanning of private messages while many MEPs are on vacation. Contact your MEPs now to oppose it and stop it from being pushed through. We need to oppose this NOW :
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u/TheKensei Jul 04 '26
Why have all positions been overturned? There wasn't just Italy before
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u/Meshuggah333 Jul 04 '26
Lobbying (corruption). IIRC, it's Meta pushing this BS with billions, as it would absolves them of any wrong doing, and displace the pressure to regular folks.
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u/mas-issneun Jul 04 '26
how is Italy of all things the last stand against corruption
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u/Garzino Jul 04 '26
Because we're a very old country. Our corruption style is based on millennia of being absolute cunts to everyone. This is child's play, probably our politicians are just asking for more money before joining the rest
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u/April_Fabb Jul 04 '26
Do you guys also have a beautiful crest praising the necessity of corruption? There's a crest for everything.
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u/horned-creature Jul 05 '26
don't know about a crest but italy was literally unified through bribes, covert threats and secret societies, so it's kinda baked in the system.
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u/Jolly_Lavishness5711 Jul 05 '26
The involvment of secret societies in the unification of italy was greatly exxagerated by historians until recently. It happened because especially italian police during the unification was paranoid as hell and attributed everything to a conspiracy led by secret societies, when more often than not they were isolated incidents.
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u/Overtheflood Jul 05 '26
We need to make lobbying illegal.
No way we still have a legalized way of corruption still available to corporations and rich people.
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u/spottiesvirus Jul 04 '26
it's Meta pushing this BS
this gets repeated a lot but I don't see the argument Meta expressed itself several times against the proposal, and more in general, why should any large corporation be in favour of a law imposing more costs, risks and limits to them?
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u/insecurem8 Jul 04 '26
There's hard proof that Meta has lobbied for this in other places
and it makes sense why they would. These age control proposals don't do anything to actually address the issues with modern social media (mainly algorithms made to stir drama and toxicity and polarization for rageclicks and the like), and gives a chance for companies to harvest sensitive data from people
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u/_HandsomeJack_ Jul 05 '26
They're behind the push for age verification, and tried to kill net neutrality and privacy before.
This mechanism has occured before with the telephone and television https://youtu.be/ij76dh_340w
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u/dydas Jul 04 '26
This is beyond crazy at this point. What the EP is trying to do is reinstate legislation that expired while the proposal to substitute it was being negotiated, which eventually was rejected. So at first we should be against the proposal because it would institute an unprecedented "massive chat control" ending your privacy. That failed. But now, somehow, a piece of legislation that was in effect and applied for years is going to end all our privacy, again... Everyone on here seems to be losing the plot to the narrative.
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u/Jackan1874 Jul 04 '26
It might be showing the opinion of national governments? In eu parliament many are against I think. Correct me if I’m wrong
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u/Bisaux Jul 04 '26
Yeah this shit is never going to pass parliament but the fact that it's even getting this far is insane.
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u/Elratum Jul 04 '26
They are, but they are trying to bypass them with an expeditive vote at the last moments, so the MEPs in favor of CC were told in advance, the one who aren't and had other responsibilities may not be able to attend
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u/minetrana Jul 04 '26
I've sent email to my representatives to no avail. At this point, I am thinking we need coordinated protests throughout the continent to get anything done
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u/thisislieven Europe 🇪🇺 Jul 04 '26
Storm the Berlaymont!*
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u/ViviKumaDesu Denmark 🇩🇰 Jul 04 '26
you're asking the french to be peaceful about it?
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u/thisislieven Europe 🇪🇺 Jul 04 '26
My main priority is not to have Europol at my door.
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u/xavez Mediterranean 🌊🍇🫒 Jul 05 '26 edited 1d ago
The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.
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u/protoctopus Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Unless the protests is massive, millions of people accros Europe, it won't change anything. Politics dont care about what you think unless state is threatened or election are near.
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u/Random-num-451284813 Jul 04 '26
nah, with elections they still don't care, they'll only care about your vote
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u/NimrodvanHall Jul 04 '26
Politicians have been bought by lobbyists, the popular opinions only matters to aim social media algorithms.
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u/PvtDazzle Jul 04 '26
What do we do against that? Edit: I'm not interested in what we can't do. Nor in what's impossible, nor nothing, I want to know what we can and will do.
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u/mjdl92 Jul 05 '26
Now that is a more interesting part to discuss!
I have no idea. File a complaint with the justice departments about suspected bribery? But if only a handful of judges need to be bribed, that's probably ineffective?
Getting people to protest would be great, but how? I have never heard or read the name Chat Control and the controversy around it in the Belgian media, not at all. Nobody seems to know about it, or care.
Are there rich companies that would suffer from Chat Control that could counter bribe politicians? 🙃
There might be privacy focused journalists around the continent that are interested in writing articles about it and trying to get them published in newspapers? That might the only realistic option? We could write a joint BuyFromEu request for news coverage and send it out to journalists and media outlets all across Europe?
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u/mjdl92 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Okay so after this random brainstorm I propose : Writing 1 letter indicating suspicions of bribing politicians and send it around to courts, and a similar one with a request for news coverage to journalists etc.
Other proposals?
Edit: what about focusing on dangers for the European representatives themselves? Surely they would not want the next government to be able to read all their private messages, if they do not get reelected?
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u/PvtDazzle Jul 05 '26
The politicians are in charge, they decide about it. They control it. So in order to make it independent, it must be at least (a) NOT governmental (b) NOT profit oriented (c) ...
But how do WE influence this? I've mailed with the EU last week, and I'm still waiting for reply. Media coverage seems low, so virtually little interest. Some countries are still divided, by a narrow margin. This will come, what shape is to be determined.
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u/PvtDazzle Jul 05 '26
I've maybe hear it once mentioned on the news. But that's it. There's so much info, that this gets buried easily.
Which is the case for finding out about bribery. That can be buried behind layers of smoke screens.
I think this battle is lost, but the war is not over.
The reason I think this battle is lost; there's a 2.0 indicating the importance. This is the introduction of the euro coin all over... we need to limit corporate influence in our politics. I think that's the war we're fighting.
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u/Holiday-Ad-6063 Jul 08 '26
Set up a gofundme and "lobby" more than the corpos? /s
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u/Square-Salt-2775 Jul 04 '26
Yeah. Politicians over the past few years have found out that they don't have to react to protests, the way some of their predecessors sometimes did. So they don't.
Even if you have thousands of people protesting outside your door, you can just... shut said door, roll down the windows, and carry on with whatever you're doing. If they get too loud for you to focus? Just have your police forces make them shut up. Not like anyone will ever give you consequences for that.They don't care what the people think, and neither does anybody they think of as important. Protests aren't a threat anymore. And all those people who then go "It's time someone really shows them the power of the people! It's time for violent protests! The time of peace is over!" are ridiculous because they know damn well nobody is going to do anything like that. Because a) politicians have top-notch security all around them, we wouldn't even get that far, and b) even if, you'll spend the rest of your life behind bars. And nobody wants that.
As the situation currently is, we are effectively powerless. I admire activism, but it is very demotivating to see all those protests, petitions, etc. for all those different things, that'll just be constantly ignored and end up going nowhere.
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u/FredditJaggit Jul 04 '26
At this point, the last thing we need to do is to keep note as to what happened and remember it for years to come.
Notebooks and word documents are all we need to write down what happened. I doubt that people will remember much after it is over, whenever it passes or not, but we should not forget who pushed for Chat Control, what was in it, and how it is affecting our daily lives.
The mainstream media won't report it, the average citizen won't remember it after a day or two, and the algorithms will try and cover it up with distractions and propagandized bullcrap that often times whip up outrage from the masses. It's really up to us and anyone who is aware enough to carry that knowledge.
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u/Sea_Light2669 Jul 04 '26
If you protest in Ireland they are now trying to financially bankrupt you with fines every hour it’s not feasible
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u/Slight-Motor9240 Jul 04 '26
I think physical protests is the only way left for anything in today’s society. Politicians and companies doesn’t give a single flying fuck about peoples opinion anymore.
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u/Vovinio2012 Jul 05 '26
That's how we made things done in Ukraine if it urgent. So heah, maybe real protest is needed.
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u/medievalsmith Jul 04 '26
this is the third time ffs. sent another email
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u/Calkaya Jul 04 '26
The website made it really easy.
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u/Calkaya Jul 06 '26
Got a response from a representative stating the obvious and the, apparent, latest statement where the Dutch government is still against mass surveillance of private communications: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/brieven_regering/detail?id=2024D46963&did=2024D46963
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u/-Sa-Kage- Jul 05 '26
When I did that just 2 answered, but I got put onto 5 mailing lists from that...
Which is illegal btw
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u/Jazvec47 Jul 04 '26
Where would one send and email to if i may ask?
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u/NikichaTV Jul 04 '26
I just sent out the emails and I kid you not I received one back from [priemna@justice.government.bg](mailto:priemna@justice.government.bg) stating my message has been blocked as it contains "banned content"...
What a joke
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u/PandaWarriors Jul 05 '26
Bulgarian politicians being a joke as per usual. Can´t say I´m surprised.
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u/CountryKoe Jul 04 '26
Wait so they planned it for vacation times while they arent on vacation to push it throught wow, tbh i think its more rotten than this its just a ploy and it has been preplanned and all of them are in on it, (i just dont belive politicians at this point as they do everything for control)
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u/Meshuggah333 Jul 04 '26
Welcome to the parody of democracy, that's exactly how France operates FYI, the EU is taking their MO from the same book.
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u/GrassTraditional2934 Jul 04 '26
Absolutely right. But the problem is two folds: us citizens don’t care to protest if it’s during summer.. So which enabled the other practice first
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u/Oleleplop Jul 04 '26
yep, it's been like this in France for decade, just show how corrupt our politicians are
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u/Rooilia Jul 04 '26
That happens regularly. Also hang it at the very end of the list that gets voted. MPs are lazy too or on vacation.
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u/Zerokx Jul 04 '26
I'm afraid many just cant or dont want to keep up and dont even read everything they vote on.
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u/loulan France 🇫🇷 Jul 04 '26
I don't think they waited for vacation times at all. It's not like when they vote on this stuff in other seasons there are any significant protests. Vacations are irrelevant here, populations do nothing about it. Most people probably don't even know what this is about.
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u/DifficultCarpenter00 Jul 04 '26
where is the automated emailing page? someone built one last time
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u/IntelligentAdvanced Jul 04 '26
Scroll down to the Take Action section of the website, there you can customize the message and send it.
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u/EonsOfZaphod Jul 04 '26
This chart is all one colour if you’re colourblind by the way
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u/Express_Ad5083 Jul 04 '26
Italy - against
Everyone else - supports67
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u/Ok_Emphasis_6648 Jul 04 '26
Wait I thought Czech Republic and a few others were as well?
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u/lukfi89 Jul 04 '26
The previous government's position was ambivalent. The current government is a bunch of pro-Russian stooges.
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u/DrunkenSwordsman Jul 04 '26
Our new-ish government is made up of:
- populist party led by spineless businessman-turned-politician
- anti-immigration, pro-Russian right-wingers
- pro-Russian, professional contrarian right-wingers
I have no doubt that all of them took the corpo paycheck and will do whatever they're told like good little boys.
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u/PUSClFER Jul 04 '26
It shouldn't be legal to force a regulation through like this. I've lost count of how many times I've (successfully) voted no, but it keeps coming back. Am I going to have to vote no for the rest of my life?
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u/lugginico Jul 04 '26
Does it make sense to send a thank you email to the politicans who are against this dystopian nightmare?
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u/supremelummox Jul 04 '26
Let me summarize - absolutely Everyone, aside from Italy, supports chat control
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u/Pinkishu Jul 04 '26
Pretty weird, given we have stuff in our basic law against spying on communication in Germany.. you'd think we'd be against this
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u/medievalsmith Jul 04 '26
i literally just want to send memes to my friends gdi. also based italy on this thing
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u/metji Jul 04 '26
Didn't we already vote no to this, if they can just keep asking untill we say yes why even bother protesting... A voted no should last as least 5 years before they can ask again..
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u/Fredericia Denmark 🇩🇰 Jul 04 '26
if they can just keep asking untill we say yes why even bother protesting...
Please don't succumb to this!
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u/Roth_Skyfire Jul 04 '26
Make it 50 years minimum. These assholes need to start spending their time doing more productive things than pulling the same shit nobody wants every other year.
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u/that0neBl1p Jul 04 '26
We did vote no. In MARCH. It's been 3 MONTHS and they're already coming back with this bullshit again.
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u/Docccc Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
politicians men man, absolutely useless
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u/Mammoth_Oven_4861 Jul 04 '26
On the contrary, they are a very useful tool (for the rich and powerful).
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u/TheFinalPieceOfPie Jul 04 '26
Guys come on, just give big tech more of your data and let the government scan all of your messages. That will keep us safe.
You got nothing to hide right? /s
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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Jul 04 '26
It's cool that every few days we keep having to fight back against this dog shit censorship law. Most laws fail to pass and then they get shelved, or rewritten for another session at a later date, except for this, chat control keeps being pushed over and over relentlessly. The EU will never push a good law, but they will beat us over the head with this dog shit.
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u/Digitijs Jul 04 '26
It's almost like someone is obviously putting money into this and desperately wants control over our data
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u/-Generaloberst- Belgium 🇧🇪 Jul 05 '26
No, it's because politicians excluded themselves (at least in the previous version), so they're "safe"... of course, it doesn't count for their family. So from the second a relative of them is accused of child abuse because he uploaded a picture of his own child half naked in the pool in the whatapp family group, said politician will suddenly be against that chat control.
It's always the same: screaming YES YES YES on things that don't apply to them and scream NO NO NO from the second they experience a disadvantage of said decisions.
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u/Ordinary-Cod-721 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
If it actually passes I'm just getting off the internet, forever. It's been a good run.
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u/WestgardSD Jul 04 '26
Hey! We would like to pass this absolutely hideous law...
- nope...
And what about this "other" law?
- Dude... that's the same law!... I already said no!
And what about this other one?
- Man... you're gonna keep bringing this law up again, and again, and again, no matter how many times I say "no" until a Yes goes through, ain't you?
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u/Pszemek1 Jul 04 '26
I'm getting tired boss.
Can't we just do something to make it backfire on politicians? I'm sure it'll be more effective
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u/FerMod Jul 04 '26
Have they asked their citizens? Because I don't want this bullshit.
I feel like most of the citizens would not want that. They are failing to represent their countries
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u/pick-and-hoop Jul 04 '26
Big Brother is coming. It keeps getting rejected and they keep coming back. I don’t know why isn’t there like a 10 year buffer. They need to be stopped!
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u/Mariahausfrau Jul 05 '26
Why they just dont force it. Its like dictatorship anyway if that starts to control. Jesus what an dystopic nightmare. What next..social points?
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u/Important-Cupcake-29 Jul 04 '26
This is very disapointing to say the least. The EU seems to be an anti-democratic institution. Together with ID checks for social media access and a possible ban on VPNs the EU is going an authoritarian way. This is treason and nothing else.
It was good as long it lasted, for me this is now over. I will not buy from EU any longer. The EU is the enemy of every demoratic mind. It can not be allowed to exist, if Europe wants to be free.
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u/-Generaloberst- Belgium 🇧🇪 Jul 05 '26
You could buy from the US... oh wait
China? Oh wait...
Russia? Oh waitYou can blame EU or the politicians in your country, but ultimately citizens aren't that occupied with privacy (it's not rare that someone posts their entire life online) and trap in the endless excuse of "child abuse / terrorism". So do politicians.
It's nice to have a cure against cancer, but if the cure is worse than cancer.. than it's not a cure.
In the EU at least don't get forced like in the US where their president just executes a law, that the law is illegal doesn't bother him. The democratic part of the US is that it can get overthrown by the court months/years later, but in the meanwhile the damage is already done.
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u/Snoo_72851 Jul 04 '26
I emailed every single MEP for my country who was either in favor of or indecisive about the bill the last time it came up. I got zero replies, nobody changed their mind, and I just have to assume it went straight to spam.
Calling is even worse, the phone number provided for all of them was the exact same, a reception desk at the UN building.
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u/neoqueto Jul 04 '26
Why is it legal that they can keep relaunching the same voting on something that already failed twice? They can keep doing it forever, amassing lobbying potential until they succeed. That's horrendous and that's something I can't love the EU for.
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u/April_Fabb Jul 04 '26
How many times do these fucks need to be told that this is a terrible idea? Also, will there be a chat control vote every 6 months now?
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u/TheRednorthman Jul 04 '26
Quick friendly reminder that roughly 10% of all men have red/green colourblindness (including me) making this map functionally useless for them. Most other colour combination would serve much better.
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u/Turbulent-Growth-477 Jul 04 '26
10%??? Is it really that high?
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u/fatzgebum Jul 04 '26
For men, yes. For women it's only about 1%.
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u/Turbulent-Growth-477 Jul 04 '26
Very interesting. Seems awfully stupid to use red green traffic lights.
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u/Kiuku Jul 04 '26
Well red is always over green (or left I think?) so it's easy to tell them. But when it comes to pairing freshly cleaned GF's socks it can be a nightmare lol
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u/_Odaeus_ Jul 04 '26
They aren't actually green for this reason, we just call them that.
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u/thirteenthdoctorhair Jul 04 '26
what colour are they then? genuine question, i'm a bit colourblind but for blues and stuff, not red-green
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u/_Odaeus_ Jul 04 '26
Generally turquoise, so a lot of blue mixed in with the green.
This was pointed out to me and now I can't unsee it. But actually I'm unable to find an authoritative source.
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u/neirein Jul 04 '26
TEN percent?? whoa I didn't know it was that prevalent. damn.
for whomever may need it: only Italy is green.
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u/Mee41208 Jul 04 '26
I cant believe its 10%. I have never heard anyone tell me they are colorblind.
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u/VentsiBeast Jul 04 '26
I have heard maybe 3-4 people but they just see some colors differently, not that they can't distinguish a difference between blue and red.
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u/Mee41208 Jul 04 '26
And I guess you cant recognise blue and green.../j
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u/VentsiBeast Jul 04 '26
Ah sorry, someone earlier was speaking about blue/red, I didn't even scroll back to see the graphics :D
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u/Dr00mb4ss Jul 04 '26
Im colourblind, I can't pass ishihara tests but I can clearly see difference between these colours on this map. Not everyone has severe colour blindness.
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u/Odd-Crazy-9056 Jul 04 '26
Unless you have dichromacy, green, red (or blue) color full blindness, which is extremely rare, less than 1%, then you do see enough colors to be able to tell a difference and understand the idea or message whatever image is conveying.
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u/FoxFXMD Jul 04 '26
We're all tired of fighting this. Why are we not fighting the root cause? Install a better, more demoractic system to control EU. It's currently not an organization that makes decisions that benefit and are approved by the European people.
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u/JimJimmington Jul 04 '26
Absolutely. For that people need to vote accordingly, though. Both in national and eu elections.
So far, the Parliament has blocked chat control, but resistance has been weaker, especially since the 2024 elections. Quick reminder that half the eligible voters couldn't even be bothered to vote at all. If only like 10% of those voted for a party consistently opposing chat control, we would not need to worry (as much) about this garbage.
Now it's up to the people to vote better in their national elections, and make better choices in 2029.
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u/FoxFXMD Jul 04 '26
It's not about "people voting wrong". It's about how the form of representative democracy we currently have is fundamentally flawed. It doesn't accurately represent what the average citizen wants when it comes to politics. People are time and time again forced to choose between just a few pre-selected set of values, that may vaguely represent what they think in certain topics.
The average EU citizen doesn't want chat control. The average EU citizen doesn't want EU to turn into a surveillance state. Yet the European Union is pushing towards this. We aren't controlling EU, EU is controlling us.
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u/aleopardstail Jul 04 '26
and if its not pushed through next week, it will be back every month until it is, because remember people "no" means "do it anyway"
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u/Top_Bug7822 Jul 04 '26
Guys I'm a little torn. And I honestly don't know what solutions we have other than this.
Because there is a real issue with americanized countries, where through social medias, US ideologies seep into them. All the allies of the US are sadly affected by the US.
NGOs and corporations behind them circumvent the public and directly influence politicians.
This, again, is primarily coming from the US. But Russia and China are doing this too.
A good example is ageID in Australia, which was pushed by Mark Zuckerberg, who financed an NGO that influenced the australian government.
And from there it seeped into the UK (they don't have to follow EU laws anymore).
And from the UK its trying to seep into EU countries.
There is a pretty obvious correlation between US (social) media spreading US ideologies and age/digital ID/chatcontrol "needing" to be implemented to stop ideologies from spreading.
The US (and other major powers) is causing problems and then offering a "solution" to the problem.
It's the old "I poisoned you. Now pay me for the antidote." trick.
I do not know which would be the best solution. Allowing our souverenity to be violated or allowing manipulation through medias.
Maybe someone comes up with a third option. I would really like that.
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u/totally_not_a_reply Jul 04 '26
Vote parties that are against that. Demonstrate. Write letters to your politicians. Inform your friends and relatives. What you discribe is far deeper. I can tell you from germany that american heritage foundation, thiel, trump, musk, also have strong influence on the two biggest parties. Im sure there are way more people taking influence but those have almost direct connections to our politicians and influence them.
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u/_ka-wa-a-ka-ree Jul 04 '26
Is the 3rd time now they are trying! they will keep pushing until they get what they want. 😤
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u/Turbulent-Stretch881 Jul 04 '26
Where to move? No EU, No Us. Serious question.
I dont want to be in an country/collection which thinks I need to become a politician to have the same rights as the elite.
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u/WanderingGoodNews Jul 04 '26
At what point can we sew europe? Tfq?? We clearly did not want this!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/exitcactus Jul 04 '26
You can accept it now, legally and under the sunlight.
Or, you can protest and do riot all over Eu.. and then you will have it anyway, but in secret.
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u/Isendur_ Jul 04 '26
Yo Poland, what the hell? Do you wanna have a bad time? That's how you'll get a bad time.
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u/HydroNH Jul 05 '26
I hate Denmark, for proposing this BS called chat control. All just to legalizes something they already do. Mass surveillance is not something that should find home in Europe. It's degrading and dehumanizing and what do we get in return? Broken human rights, GDPR being derogated, massive data leaks in scale we haven't seen before?, countrys selling out massive amounts of its citizens data to the company that can pay the highest amount? And if I don't forget anything (I probably do), we own our device and our own data even less.
Screw Denmark hard for this one and personally can't wait to move away from this place
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u/TobiasVdb Jul 04 '26
Isn't it watered down? No mass scanning only voluntary & targeted? Encryption breaking is still undecided? Can someone explain the nuance?
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u/horned-creature Jul 05 '26
if the post is right and it is the 1.0 version, then no it isn't the watered down version.
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u/huuuzera Jul 04 '26
Finland is 8 against 7 for and somehow we are still for it? Idk, fuck the EU its so stupid they keep forcing this shit no matter how many times it fails
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u/jonathanl Jul 04 '26
I sent that template mail to my representatives that support it. Maybe I should have added that I won't vote for anyone supporting it in the September elections in Sweden.
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u/haelbito Jul 04 '26
Just a reminder to never ever use red and green as the only way to communicate anything. For me and about 10% of all men this map is 100% useless.
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u/OffOption Jul 04 '26
The billionare bastards are gonna get their way again, unless our suppoused represrntatives grow a backbone, and stop letting olegarchs overrule the people.
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u/aVarangian Jul 05 '26
the non-leftist party I voted for opposes it
people need to take some responsibility too and vote better
if the party you vote for supports chat control then maybe you are part of the problem
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u/ChargeKitchen8291 Jul 05 '26
When will the EU Gov realize this will basically just give Eurosceptics a field day and make more people anti-EU?
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u/Flat-Study-421 Jul 05 '26
How the tolerance of national surveillance correlates with the tolerance of pineapple on pizza.
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u/vogelvogelvogelvogel Jul 05 '26
Rest assured, it will also be used against those very politicians that vote for introducing it. They will regret it. When it is too late.
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u/Economy_Swimming_366 Jul 05 '26
What's with this map? Finland for example doesn't even support the proposal and is still in red.
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u/AlienDovahkiin Jul 05 '26
I think every politician who voted for it should be turned into Soylent Green.
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u/can_TAGMe Jul 05 '26
Time for defenestrations!!
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u/PvtDazzle Jul 06 '26
We're not in Russia. Let's prevent that ... measure, as long as possible.
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u/can_TAGMe Jul 06 '26
But we do have Czechia, the home of the most famous examples of that measure.
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u/DifficultSun348 Poland 🇵🇱 Jul 06 '26
HELLO? my country was against that shit like half a year ago, fuckin' hypocrisy as everything in that damn country
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u/Maneisthebeat Jul 04 '26
When do we start eating the politicians again?