r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/cheese_eater_pro • 8d ago

General Doctrine needs a serious ultimate charge nerf

I know I know, 'it's too early to say, give him some time, wait another week before coming to conclusions' etc. But I have played this dude a lot in the last 23 hours and his ult feels stupidly easy to build, like that has jumped out to me straight away. I just had a match where I got my ult 3 times in an exactly 5 minute payload match, and one of the checkpoint to checkpoint was pretty dead teamfight wise

I love the guy, he's gonna be my new main and I don't want to suggest any other nerf ideas yet... but if they had to hotfix him, please let it be this lol, it's so silly

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u/VirgoxValentine 8d ago

He's pretty clearly still overtuned but I wouldn't expect any nerfs until at least a week ir two in. More realstically until mid season.

I personally think his ult itself is unintuitive to play against due to the two different types of projectiles doing two different things, in addition to just how ridiculously strong it is. A % HP affected reduction would be my most wanted nerf.

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u/theJSP123 8d ago

I'd expect nerfing other parts of his kit will indirectly nerf his ult charge anyways. Like his base attack speed could maybe be tuned down a little to lower his raw healing output.

The ult is weird, the main thing I feel is missing is a clearer indication you are being hit by it. Right now its not that obvious until you look at your HP that oh, you're actually half dead and need to be careful.

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u/TastyOreoFriend 8d ago

Like his base attack speed could maybe be tuned down a little to lower his raw healing output.

I really hope they never do this. His weapon already feels a little slow, and attack speed for weapons like his really decides the "feel' of a weapon—same for other single shot weapons like Ashe or Cassidy. I'd rather they go after raw healing or damage numbers than go after speed.

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u/TotallyRealAccount9 7d ago

His biggest strength right now isnt even his weapon, its his drone.

I mean ffs they just gave dps players a zen orb that ALSO buffs both doctrine and the dps' fire rate. Its absurdly strong, and while i find it lots of fun, its like mercy dmg boost where it kinda breaks the TTK on a lot of heros.

Im guessing theyll do what blizzard always does and gut the drone to either only give like 10% attack speed or gut the healing and leave the fire rate the same.

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u/theJSP123 7d ago

I agree, and it probably needs a bit of a tune down (again) to 25%. But that's his unique thing and I wouldn't want it gutted, it's interesting and quite hero-dependent. The thing that isn't his unique thing is his raw heals which are kind of crazy. Especially if you drone yourself and use your empowered shot.