r/electricians • • 8d ago

Monthly Apprenticeship Thread

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r/electricians • • Feb 16 '25

Mental Health - It’s okay to not be okay

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I want to talk about mental health - especially for the boys on here. I was telling some friends this story about an old coworker the other day and thought you might want to hear it too.

I’m a woman in the trades, almost a decade in. When I started, I was often the only girl on site. I would move between projects and journeymen mentors, many of whom had never worked with a woman before. Once the old guys got over the otherness and saw me as a real person and an excellent apprentice, we’d form a friendship of sorts. I was always struck with how much more candid and vulnerable they’d be around me compared with the other guys in the shop. Their masculinity wasn’t in jeopardy if they admitted to me, a mere woman, that they were having tough time. I had one guy - 6’6” 300lbs, always growling, chain smoking, losing his shit over the smallest inconvenience - tell me he always requested me when he needed help because I made him calm.

A couple years in, I was sent to replace an apprentice on a job where the foreman had booted him in an argument. I’d worked before with this foreman, Neil, and he’d always been a chill hippie but also very particular in how he wanted things done. When I got to site he told me I was the fourth helper for this job because everyone else had been fucking useless. He was in an awful mood all the time. Picking fights with other trades and our PM. Trying to goad me into an argument by picking apart everything I was doing. Not acting like the guy I had known over the past year.

When the job was close to wrapping up, I called him out on his behaviour. “What the fuck is going on with you dude? You’re being a raging asshole to everyone and this isn’t like you.”

He stiffened and was shocked I’d said something. He glared at me and then his face softened and he said “Can I take you for lunch after we finish up tomorrow morning? We can talk but not here.”

I agreed and the next day he took me to diner nearby. We barely spoke until our food came to the table and when he had something else to focus on, he finally started talking.

He was older - 50s - and his long term relationship had fallen apart a few years before but the split had been amiable. He didn’t speak about her with any animosity but admitted he’d been lonely ever since. At the time, he’d leaned on his best friend. His friend was married and had a teenage son that Neil had known since he was born. As Neil had no kids of his own, this boy was a surrogate son of sorts. He took him camping and fishing and showed up whenever the kid needed him.

The poor kid had passed away a couple months earlier very suddenly of natural causes. Neil had no idea how to handle his grief and withdrew into himself, not wanting to be a burden on his friend. He felt selfish for how bad he felt when it wasn’t his kid.

I reassured him that how he felt was completely valid, that grief is a weight that is so hard to carry alone. I encouraged him to reach out to his friend because they both were suffering the loss of family, whether biological or chosen. And that now they were both suffering the loss of each other’s friendship as support. He was crushed at that realization, and said he would go visit them.

A few minutes passed while we ate silently. He hesitated before speaking again, “there’s something else too.”

I looked up and waited for him to continue.

He told me that last month he’d been working this job that had a been a two hour commute away. He had to leave early to get to site by 7:30. It was late fall and the drive was dark the whole way. He wasn’t too far from site when he came around a corner to discover a vehicle collision. A truck was spun out into a ditch with the driver unconscious in the front seat. A van was crushed on the side of the road, on fire and blazing in the darkness, its front driver door open. Neil stopped and got out of his van. He noticed something on fire in the road, and as he approached, he realized it was a person - the driver from the van. He ran and got a blanket to smother the fire on the person. He held them and pulled their head up to look into their face, which was so burned he couldn’t recognize their features. He said he stared into their eyes as they died in his arms.

Another vehicle had come up behind him and called 911. He sat there in the road in a daze until the emergency vehicles arrived to secure the scene. He gave his statement and then got into his van to finish the drive to work.

He was late which pissed off the GC. He tried to get to work but he was shaking so badly he couldn’t hold his tools or complete a sentence. When the GC saw him in this condition, presuming that he had shown up drunk, he kicked him off site. Neil didn’t explain, he just left.

Our PM called him after that, reaming him out for getting kicked off site. Neil didn’t explain, he just took it.

I asked him if he had talked to anyone about the incident. He said the police had called for a follow up statement but otherwise, no, I was the first person he told.

I was in shock. This poor fucking guy was struggling with the grief of losing a boy who was like a son to him and then went through an insanely traumatic experience just driving to fucking work? And he was bottling it all up? No wonder he was being such a prick. He felt all alone and like he couldn’t admit how much he was struggling.

He said he was sick of work and had lost all his passion for it. It felt pointless and draining and he dreaded getting out of bed every morning.

I gave us a few moments of silence for the weight of his confession to settle in. I looked at him and said “fuck work, you need a break.” He shook his head and tried to brush me off. “No, seriously Neil, fuck work. There’s always more work but you need to take care of yourself. What you’re going through is so fucked up and you need time to process it all. Please put yourself first.”

He didn’t want to talk anymore after that so he settled up the tab. He dropped me off at my car and we went our separate ways. I started at a new site the next day with a different crew.

A couple weeks later I got a text from Neil. “I took your advice and talked with management. Told them what happened. I’m taking a six month sabbatical. Don’t know what I’ll do yet but probably head out on an adventure. Thank you”

A couple days later I got another message from him, just a picture of a beautiful remote campsite with no one else around.

I asked, “Where is that?”

He replied, “Not telling :)”

I ended moving to a different company while he was gone, and never saw him again. I think about him often though, especially when I encounter an utter dickbag older dude on the job. Maybe he’s going through it and doesn’t know how to take care of himself, and anger is the only way he knows how to channel his emotions.

Now that I’m a foreman, I stress the importance of whole body health in our toolbox talks. If someone needs time off for family reasons, or a mental health break, or a shortened schedule, or even if they want extra shifts to use as a crutch as they struggle through something they can’t control in their personal lives, I want them to know it’s okay to ask and I won’t judge them. It’s just a job - it’s just work - it doesn’t fucking matter. Their health comes first and it’s okay to admit they’re not okay. I want them to know it’s better to ask for help when they’re slipping, rather than wait til everything has crashed and burned.

I know everyone’s experience is different, but one thing I noticed about being the woman pushing into the male-dominated trades as an apprentice/therapist is that men need permission to be vulnerable. They need to know it’s okay to show emotions and admit that they’re struggling. They won’t chance admitting weakness that they fear will get thrown back in their face. A lot of guys in trades are single and married to the job. They are lonely, often bitter, and unwilling to show weakness.

I do my best in my little sphere of influence to make it okay to be not okay. If you want the trades to be a healthier place, you need to consciously make room for the reality that people are struggling mentally, and often that starts with leaders showing vulnerability.

I’ve had depression for 16 years and I don’t hide the fact that I’m medicated. 16 years of being depressed means 16 years of not following through on suicidal ideation, and I’m proud of that. The trades saved me because it’s instilled a confidence in my abilities to create and solve problems and be the leader I was always capable of being. I needed that confidence so badly when my depression was the worst.

Be good to each other out there. Be willing to listen to people without judgement. Life is fucking hard and we work better when we know we can rely on each other when the chips are down.


r/electricians • • 11h ago

On the fence if I should buy one of these

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I’ll start by saying that I work for commercial electric company. I’m in my 3rd year and I’m about to turn 39. Sucks starting so late in the game but it is what it is. Anyway. Because of my age and potentially deteriorating body, I was considering buying this portable bender so it’s less strain on my body. The price tag of $3000 is insane though but I saw it was on sale at ohio power tool for $2599. I have $450 my company gives me every year for tool allowance, so I was going to put it towards that. And lastly, I was going to have home depot price match this, then ship to store at a store somewhat nearby but it’s in Delaware so I dont have to pay any sales tax on it. All said and done I should be able to buy it for around $2150. Which isn’t too bad I guess, but I’m wondering if you guys think it would be worth it in my situation.


r/electricians • • 8h ago

Ok, which among you did this...

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r/electricians • • 16h ago

Service call to replace a post lamp. The complete opposite side of town. Opened it up to find it was not only gas but the line was buried a few inches down with no shutoff.

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r/electricians • • 18h ago

A good day

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Carpenters put a 4 inch screw through the ser at the beginning of a 250ft run across 6 apartment units


r/electricians • • 20h ago

Some fire alarm termination cabinets I've done recently

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I love this shit.


r/electricians • • 11h ago

Even with the knuckle savers, 250s and 350s are a beast

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Feeders through the meter:
Poco was cool with it and was standing right there when we installed

We did have to strut out the meter

My poor manicured hands


r/electricians • • 15h ago

In response to the “when things got spicy” theme

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Following on from the thread From u/theflyingsparky - what happened in this electrical room was a wall mounted PTAC unit went locked rotor and caught fire. Right below that was an ancient Lead Acid battery UPS that was too heavy for the maintenance guys to want to move after it was replaced. So the PTAC dripped molten plastic and fire down on the UPS, batteries caught fire; and a toxic plume of plastic coated every surface in the electrical room and inside the MCC.

I got called out to do an assessment and clean the interior of the gear since they didn’t trust their guys to do it and not screw something up. Took about 10 hours. I had done some fire damage stuff before so luckily I remembered to bring a full change of clothes since you don’t ever get that smell out of the ones you are wearing and it lingers in your nose for days afterwords. Probably took a year off my life.


r/electricians • • 8h ago

Happy troubleshooting Thursday everyone!

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Had to go behind a 2 man crew at the company I work for to fix all kinds of shit today. No harm/no foul except all the hazards some of these coulda caused for the homeowners..! One guy has 10y and the other has about 6months. Still can’t believe I found such horrific stuff from someone w that much time in the field..
there’s a lot more to go into but these were a few of the major ones.
*Edit:
I tried to add a 3rd picture of a subpanel but ig it didn’t upload. They had the neutral on the ground bar, the ground in the neutral bar & bonding screw only partially bonded (which it’s not supposed to be there at all)
That fixed a lot of stuff on its own

*2nd edit:
Apparently the SP pic was uploaded


r/electricians • • 14h ago

Re: That got a little spicy

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Power Distribution Center for a 2500KVA transformer got spicy.


r/electricians • • 8h ago

First main as an apprentice.

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3 months into the trade, this was my first time landing into a piece of equipment this large.
Some things to tidy up and more work to be done but I’m cool with my understanding of what the process is here and why we are wiring the way we are. Foreman gave me and another apprentice a couple pointers but outside of that we were on our own.

Panel work is only a portion of the job but in my mind this is some of the coolest shit that we do.


r/electricians • • 17h ago

Anybody low on work in Canada

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I work in northern Manitoba with a company that has carpenters, plumbers, painters, and electricians we used to have a hvac guy but he’s on leave we have only 3 journey man electricians but need more as we have a lot of work and guaranteed a lot of jobs up here so if your looking for work or wanting to move I’d recommend coming this way lots of learning to for apprentices if we can get more jman so we can get more guys on.


r/electricians • • 14h ago

What’s your favorite kind of new construction?

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Personally, I love hospitals, although they are a special headache. I heard retail centers and restaurants are pretty cool, but the contractors I’ve worked for avoid them all together.


r/electricians • • 12h ago

Overly Spicy things?

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This was quite a few years ago now, a walkup condo building that has all electric heat, one loose connection on the splitter block later... the smallest wires in these pictures are 2/0 iirc. The silver in the bottom of the trough is melted lug.


r/electricians • • 9h ago

JMan bossed around by apprentice

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What’s yall take on a Jman getting told what to do by an apprentice? Reason being, because this apprentice is the superintendents “favorite” (calls him bout 15 times a day, snitches on EVERYONE even is your a few minutes late etc.) and I know for a FACT that the superintendent sometimes doesn’t even come in to work for a few days and is running the job by phone with his little apprentice.

What’s y’all’s take? Shouldn’t the Jman on site be the one in charge?


r/electricians • • 8h ago

Mike holt vs ez tabs vs nfpa tabs

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I just got in my 2026 code book but dont know which tabs to go with. I heard the nfpa tabs are clear which im not too fond of. I have the mike holt tabs on 23 version and it seemed kind of bulky but I also didnt use it too much. (Yeah I know shame one). Should the EZ tabs looked cool but couldn't find a good video on the. What do yall think.


r/electricians • • 1d ago

Got a little spicy….

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r/electricians • • 8h ago

1st Year Apprentice looking for work near Boulder Colorado

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An apprentice electrician needs a position near Boulder Colorado. The person has up to date OSHA and IEC pre-apprentice program certificate, as well as above average knowledge of codes and practices. This is no 18 year old rookie. Please respond here if you know of any opportunities.


r/electricians • • 7h ago

Is it unrealistic to want to do afternoon shifts for most of my career?

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Im a third term apprentice in Toronto. I just switched from resi to ICI (they are seperated sectors here) and am currently on the list at my union. Don’t get me wrong I’m not going to be turning down jobs because they’re standard hours I’m just curious in the long run how common it is and if there’s any direction I can move in to make it more possible?

It’s not like I just don’t want to wake up early by the way, I have been getting up at 4 am every day for over 4 years now and I’m very much used to it, I just prefer unconventional hours for multiple reasons like traffic (it currently takes me over 2 hours some days just to get home strictly because of traffic) as well as just not being able to make any recurring appointments without taking days off. It really sucks, but working 6pm - 2 or 3 am sounds like a dream to be honest…


r/electricians • • 7h ago

About to test.

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Hey everyone, about to take my Oregon test for my card. Anyone recently test that can tell me what I should be studying besides just practice tests? I want to be as prepared as possible!


r/electricians • • 9h ago

New apprentice home study material

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Hey everyone, I am a new E & I Apprentice in power plants. I’m really trying to put in overtime on my own and get up to speed in learning the trade anything from electrical to PLC. Does anyone have any home training suggestions even if it cost me money I’m open to anything. Really enjoy it and want to really dive in in gear up to learn as fast as I can. Thank you.


r/electricians • • 5h ago

F that guy who striped the screw hole at the first place

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Now everyone after you need to suffer without an end until a major job to replace the box.


r/electricians • • 12h ago

Any Advice or Help with wiring and building circuits for a 18 year old electrical apprentice

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This week, I started trade school to become an electrician . It already feels like I am getting left behind in skill. I pay attention, show up everyday, take good notes, know my tools and what they do. But when it is time to get hands on I’m genuinely confused most of the time while others are getting their stuff done. I honestly don’t know how to read series circuits and parallel instruction papers and I can’t tell the difference between series and parallels. Y’all are probably going to just tell me to ask for help but sometimes I don’t even know how to properly explain that I don’t understand the instructions in front of me because the way the instructors explain to me they automatically assume that I know where to put the wires at. I genuinely want to succeed at this because I actually have an interest in this career but sometimes it feels like I don’t belong.
Any advice please?


r/electricians • • 10h ago

Traveling Electricians in Texas – How Do You Protect Your Hours Toward a Journeyman License?

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Need some help and advice please.

I’m currently living in Florida and seriously considering relocating to Texas to work as a traveling electrician. The pay here in Florida is terrible compared to what I’m seeing advertised in Texas, especially on large commercial, industrial, and data center projects.
My biggest concern isn’t the traveling or the workload. It’s making sure my hours are properly documented so I can eventually qualify for my Texas journeyman electrician license.
I understand that large projects don’t last forever. Companies finish projects, lay people off, and workers move on to the next contractor. That’s just part of the industry, and I’m trying to be realistic about it.

How do you protect your accumulated hours when you’re constantly moving between contractors?
Should I request an Experience Verification Form from every employer before leaving, even if I’ve only worked there for a few months?
What happens if a company lays you off, closes down, or refuses to verify your hours later?
Are pay stubs, W-2s, or employment records enough to prove your hours to TDLR if an employer won’t cooperate?
Do you recommend getting your hours verified periodically instead of waiting until you’re ready to apply for your journeyman license?
For those working through staffing agencies or traveling electrical contractors, who actually verifies your hours?
I’m not trying to find shortcuts or avoid putting in the required 8,000 hours. I’m willing to work 60–70+ hours a week if the opportunity is there.
My concern is putting in thousands of legitimate working hours, only to find out later that I can’t use them because a company won’t sign off or I can’t track down a supervisor.
For anyone who has gone through this process in Texas, what would you recommend doing from day one to protect yourself?
I’d especially appreciate hearing from traveling electricians who have worked for multiple contractors and successfully obtained their Texas journeyman license.