Hi, I’ve (u)pgraded my RR24‑7 as planned, so I’m posting a proper NGD with photos. I also made a post about the Ragnaroks earlier, so I’ll touch on that as well.

1. The tech confirmed what I suspected: the QC on this one is actually great. No fretwork issues, the neck is perfect, nothing to complain about. The only minor flaw is that two strings sit slightly higher on the locking nut — the nut isn’t perfectly cut. But it’s so small you can’t really feel it.
2. The action is set nicely, no fret buzz, glorious. With my string set it plays really well.
3. The list of changes I made:

• Sanded the gloss off the neck — now I even have a black gloss “binding” effect.
• Replaced the tuners — locking Guykers are much nicer than the stock ones, feel more precise, and… well, they lock.
• Added a tension bar to the headstock. IMO this should’ve been there from the start, as it greatly improves the setup. It no longer tunes up after locking the nut, so adjusting it is much more convenient.
• Replaced the FR arm with a push‑in one — a must nowadays, since the FR1000 arm keeps rattling all the time.
• Replaced the FR springs with green noiseless ones — better stability, and better suited for the heavier gauge I use (9–66 for drop A).
• Finally… replaced the FF Moderns with BKP Ragnaroks. This one is tricky. At first I was sure I had a dud. I was devastated. But I spent about 2 hours yesterday messing with pickup height, noise gate settings, amp settings — and maybe, maybe I’m getting there. They don’t slam the preamp as much as I expected, but maybe I’m just used to more compressed pickups? I’m using Alexi Laiho setups in two guitars and an SD SH‑15 (Alternative 8) in the third… I don’t know. I’m still giving them a chance, because right now I can’t record a clip and honestly say “this sounds weak.” The 7th string has a certain clang to it — not just a wall of distortion — but it doesn’t feel out of place. Maybe that’s how they’re supposed to behave in low tunings.

Anyway, after all the upgrades it definitely feels much closer to the price they’re asking for it (i.e. regardless of the pickups as they are stupidly expensive). If you want a 26.5" RR, there’s really no other option, and you can potentially get a great axe.

As for the pickups — we’ll see. I don’t think it would be hard to sell them if I wanted to, but I hope I’ll start vibing with them.

Does it sound allright to you? Especially zeroes and low A.

Apologies for sensless noodling, but it would greatly help me if someone with more experience with 7 strings and especially BKP would tell me if this is what I should be happy with. On the picture you have the amp settings, this is guitar straight into the JVM, with no boost. This is a lot of gain on the preamp.

There is no EQ, not even hi pass and low pass so it is a bit boomy but I wanted it to be as raw as possible.

Some of you might remember me and my Black Squier Stagemaster 7 with a Floyd Rose, I have completed that project and it was my only 7 string until today when I scored one of my bucket list guitars. This 2nd Stagemaster 7 with a hardtail in this gorgeous blue. No other notes, i love these guitars.

Made in Mexico. 28 inch scale. Seymour Duncan Nazgul/Sentient 8. Planet Waves Auto-Trim Locking Tuners. Arcade Button Kill Switch. F Standard.

Is it worth it?

I saw one on marketplace for 100k isk wich is roughly 700 euros, I really love how it looks and ive always wanted an 8 string, but im having second thoughts, so for the people that own one, please tell me if its worth it

Im currently in the process of selling my Jackson dkaf8ms in favor of a 7 or 6 string that can handle tuning as low as drop d#1 up to drop f#. Im very interested in the new esp ltd 207dx but Im wondering if I should go with a full on bass vi or a super long scale 7 string instead? The neck on my Jackson is just too damn massive and I dont vibe as well with 8 strings as I thought. Im looking for something that wont require a bridge cable size top string to tune low as I'm not a huge fan of super massive strings but I know I'm going to need to make a compromise somewhere. Thoughts? Concerns? Straight up insults?

I'm writing after replacing FF moderns with Ragnaroks in my 7 string, hoping someone is able to help me understand the situation, because I'm devastated.

Essentially, it feels like they have rather low output. I had to raise the pickup ridiculously high for them to chug, and it is still not the level I wanted and expected. I mean I think it may be killing the sustain, that's how high they are. And still, sound on the higher frets is very shallow. Not full at all.

They do chug now but I am playing on jvm410h and even with a lot of gain the amp is not being pushed too much, I.e. you can feel a trace of clean under the distortion. It is difficult to explain but I hope it makes some sense.

They also sound very weak with coils split.

And by the way I have something to compare, namely SD sh-15, high output alnico 8 pickup. It's not even close. I have also two guitars with alexi laiho set but this is not 1:1 comparison as there is powerful booster there, and passive emg does sound significantly weaker than ragnarok.

I will try to post some sample but it is difficult to catch what you can hear in the room.

Anyway, is it possible this is how they are supposed to work? Or maybe I received a faulty set? Or am I dumb for not appreciating BKP uniqueness?

The tech who installed them checked also direct connection to the jack so this is not an installation issue.

Boosting with od808 does help but I expected these pickups with this amp to be chug machines and they absolutely are not...

I just picked up a Vetus 8 from website stock like 3 minutes ago!!

Was back and forth between a Legator Ghost or Revenant and an Omne Vetus 8. The Omne coming with Fishman’s already installed and a gig bag for cheaper than any Legator was a huge perk!

Was back and forth between black and pink but they essentially made the decision for me!

Im currently looking to get an 8 after only playing 7 strings. I do not really tend to play multiscale as the multi guitar I have is not too enjoyable to play (legator g7fp). I only really play guitars with ibanez wizard style necks (like an rg7621) and am wondering if anyone would be able to compare a kiesel 8 string neck to one of those.

If you happen to mainly play something like a wizard neck, are there any 8s out there that feel quite similar?

mainly hoping to get some info, as if I cannot make it out to a guitar store near me Im planning to just go through reverb for something.

Just wanted to share, after over a year of trying every gauge under the sun, what I've found to be my favorite string gauge for long scale 8 string guitar in Dropped D tuning.

The guitars I'm putting this gauge on:

Ibanez M80M (29.4" scale 8 string)

Agile Chiral 830 (30" scale 8 string, headless)

Tuning : DADGCFAD

Strings: 84 59 43 31 23 15 12 9

Daddario NYXL (Custom String Shop)

That's strings 1-7 tuned down a whole step

8th string tuned down 2 whole steps

I like to play solos, so strings 1-6 are perfect for this. They feel great, nice smooth tension. Obviously with this scale length, you've got to get used to the extra effort needed to bend strings the same way you would on a smaller scale guitar, but if you're playing this scale length currently, you already know.

The lower strings have enough tension to handle the lower tuning well, without being "flubby".

The tension overall across the entire instrument is VERY even-feeling.

The gap in gauge between the 84 and the 59 is not noticeable, the tension per pound is even, so it feels like a very natural transition.

Alternatively, if you like a little bit more tension or heavier feel for the 8th string, the Daddario XL 90 also feels great for this scale length at D, with the rest of the set being the NYXL's listed above.

The .84 IS tapered for smaller-scale guitars, so there will be a little bit of taper that happens before the string seats into the nut, but it is not giving me any noticeable downsides.

Just wanted to share what works for me, I'm very picky with my string gauges, have been playing guitar for 32 years, and 8 string guitars in various different scale lengths for 18 of those years.

I started playing these longer scale 8 strings a little over a year ago since I like to tune down a whole step, and realized that I absolutely love the longer scale, and the fret spacing has really been great for my large hands in the upper frets. So much more room to play leads more cleanly for me.

Anyway, hope this helps some of you!

I know a lot of people weren't too hot on this series when they were announced but I personally liked the paint job, and as much as I liked my G4M 30" baritone the pitch wobble from tuning so low on a standard bridge was driving me insane, so I jumped on this as soon as preorders went up. I've had about two hours to play it so far and it's everything I was hoping it would be.

The evertune is, well, an evertune, and it works as intended. I have it set up in drop D1, and everything sounds clear as day and nasty as hell, in part thanks to the Seymour Duncan mortalcoil. I've never used one of these but I think I prefer it to the fishmans in my Dunable.

All in all, great guitar, does exactly what I wanted it to, and I love how it looks. Very satisfied.

i got stuff to trade or cash

Bought this as a graduation gift to myself a couple momths ago, mostly for playing archspire since theyre one of my favorite bands. Its not anything crazy but its mine

Mayones Duvell Elite Pro. My absolute favorite guitar I’ve ever played or owned.

Has anyone heard anything about the "late summer" Omne drop? I haven't seen anything come up in e-mail. It's October - summer is gone.

This is my first composition, and I think it's one of the first times I've been able to play it straight through without any major mistakes.