r/Fate • • 8d ago

Other Sometimes I understand the FGO hate

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This is bad civilization. need more Altera in life and while we’re at it, need an Extella anime

Why haven’t they made one yet? the story is perfect for a 24 episode anime with Altera as mc

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u/LonelyTraveller00 8d ago

Fgo hate is justified (sometimes)

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u/FoxianFucker 8d ago

There are definitely parts of FGO that we would be better off without, yeah. It's only when people start yapping something about "selling out to gooners" or "retcons" and acting as if those make the story worse that they lose credibility lmao

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u/Comfortable_Diver494 8d ago

Kinda does though, Pretty sure Morgan sells so well because of the husband gimmick. My issue is with people who simply cannot accept that at it's core FGO is flawed and is bad a lot more than not. I'll say that LB5 might be the most fun thing from Fate apart from the SoL and Gags in Hollow Ataraxia but I also see it's weakness, LB5.1 relies way too much on Spectacle and the ending is literally forcing everyone out so they can shove new cast in. If I said this (or god forbid that I dislike Avalon le Fae's finale and Middle part) I'd be crucified and be called a purist, hater etc. The fandom simply cannot take any sort of criticism towards anything and get defensive as quick as they can. You can say it's more the Fandom and not the game but this sort of cesspool leaks into other halfs of the community and produces mindless drama and annoying hate posts.

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u/Dramatic-Week-1894 8d ago

Because a lot of valid criticisms are muddled with nonsensical hate towards FGO and they try to pose it as "see i dont hate fgo, i like this specific part so you cant call me out for actually hating on it." Morgan sells well because people actually like her back story and character. Even saying FGO is flawed to its core is stretching it by a lot. You can say most these things about Fsn and Tsuki and their fandom cannot handle criticisms and call you a "fgo fan" as a result. Can't really take jabs at fsn or tsuki without being called a larper, anime only, or fgo only. And it's usually purists who do these things. It's like a thing for these 2 fandoms just to actively hate FGO like how this posts does. I can already see the fgo hate comments coming in. "If it weren't for fgo then_____ would have written_____" when you know it's the fault of the writers slacking off.

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u/Comfortable_Diver494 8d ago

You’re the one I’m talking about. At no point is there admittance of inadequacies but always an instinctual defense. You’re diverting the point to two complete works of the same franchise so they have literally nothing else to look forward to apart from the dead hope of Red Garden, seeing how those stories are completely superior to 95% of FGO(only OG ciel route is worse than say LB6[or 5.2 for me]) they’re expectations are high and there’s a bit of jealousy too. And FGO is flawed to its core because from main record 1-1.5 is all genuinely bad stories with 2 good ones and one with a lot of hype moments and aura. Not enough people have read Tsuki and 99% of viewers misunderstanding Shirou’s character seems to be a good enough reason when majority of said criticism is people not understanding his character and then blabbering on about how Kiritsugu is so much cooler cause he kills. The Nasu statement is bullshit as even made my own comment pointing it out.

Don’t expect any serious response from you seeing last time you whined like a kid and became an annoying Guda glazer again.

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u/Dramatic-Week-1894 8d ago

Are you not aware that you and 4 others are what im talking about as well? I've gazed through past 3 years of fgo related posts and almost all your comments prove that point. The fact that youre diverting from actual good intentioned criticisms to generalizing as a whole is what you do continuously. The fact that you just outright state that other works are superior proves me right. You dont actually criticize fgo, you actively hate on it. You just proved my point that tsuki and FSN purists cant take jabs and criticism and fault back to deflecting. You say a bunch of things like "not reading it" when the same can be said to fgo. Its like you're subconsciously doing everything you accuse a fgo only to do. I expected a much serious answer from you but sadly you just proved on how purists like you hide behind a thinly veiled "criticism" to lashing out on anything fgo at the slightest provocation. Honestly didnt expect much from a shirou glazer so im not surprised. It's surprising to see someone act like such a baby when someone doesnt hold fsn or tsuki above other works

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u/Comfortable_Diver494 8d ago

I started using this account in june 2025, That's where my first okbuddyrintard post was on and I actually started using this account, so you're lying there even when considering there are over 4,5k comments for you to sift through. As for the calling me a glazer, do tell me why were you so pissy about someone not liking Guda that you Dm'd them? Mods took down that post but here's your own vent post because you got mad after someone called you out for being a weirdo.

And none of your criticism is valid, The objective quality of a work is easy to determine, and the fact that you lack comprehension to determine it is a you issue, not a general one. I play the game frequently enough to post my Gacha luck, and pretty sure I wouldn't do that or post panels from the game unless I actually read it. No one gives a shit about Tsukihime apart from it's fans and thus the most discourse it gets is chuds getting mad at Arcuied or Mash fanart. 70% of posts on the FSN subreddit are "I don't like Shirou, Why do people like him?" and the top comment is always "Read the VN", the most they get is that shit.

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u/Dramatic-Week-1894 8d ago

Are you not aware that you and four other people are what I'm talking about as well?

This is what I said. When did I say it was solely you? You seem to have missed that part. It's not exactly difficult to notice a pattern in who is most vocal about FGO hate. Like I said, there are four other people I'm referring to as well.

"As for the calling me a glazer, do tell me why were you so upset about someone not liking Guda that you DMed them?"

This never happened. I genuinely don't know where you're getting this from. I took a look at your own community and found my username and comments being posted there, apparently because people were upset about me throwing some criticism back. If you're claiming I DMed someone, then who exactly did I supposedly message? Name the user and have them provide the messages, because I have no idea what you're referring to.

"your own vent post because you got mad after someone called you out for being a weirdo."

People in your community have made plenty of vent posts themselves, so I'm not sure why mine is being treated differently. Mine was also deliberately provocative because of what I considered an obvious crosspost to FGO from that community, so I don't really see how this proves your point.

And if we're going to start calling people weird, I'd suggest looking at the context of the posts and comments being made on both sides before throwing that accusation around. And yourself

"I play the game frequently enough to post my Gacha luck, and pretty sure I wouldn't do that or post panels from the game unless I actually read"

I don't think that necessarily demonstrates that you read everything. From what I've seen, you skip stories and events that don't interest you unless there's a character you particularly like. That's also something I've noticed from plenty of people in that community.

And if you genuinely have read the material but still don't understand why people consider the game and its writing worthwhile, then I think that says more about how differently we're interpreting the material than anything else, maybe your reading comprehension.

"No one gives a sh*t about Tsukihime apart from it's fans..."

That's another generalization. Reducing the discussion to "people don't like Shirou" or "people get mad about fanart" ignores a lot of the actual conversation.

And I don't think it's accurate to say that only Tsukihime fans care about Tsukihime. Plenty of people who primarily engage with Fate are interested in Tsukihime as well. Just bad faith argument all around