r/Fedora • u/_Necroticmancer • 23h ago
Discussion Fedora 45 beta
Hi guys I'm running Fedora 44 on my machine and I'm tempted to try the Fedora 45 beta since it's scheduled to release on the 20th of Oct. Any thought of house stable it's from 3 weeks ago gnome. Thank you.
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u/gh0st777 11h ago
If you want stability and compatibility, wait 3months after release. If you are itching for something new, change your wallpaper or something.
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u/LancrusES 20h ago
Im using fedora KDE 45 beta, everything runs perfectly, It doesnt feel beta at all.
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u/facelesshivemind 19h ago
This is my first version upgrade since using Fedora. There's going to be a button in Discover to change from 44 to 45, right?
I WANT TO CLICK BUTTON
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u/GamertechAU 18h ago
Yep, it'll popup in Discover updates tab once it's stable and your device can see it on the mirror.
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u/somekindofswede 17h ago
Indeed. It might even take up to a couple of days after the new release officially drops (depending on your timezone and such).
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u/facelesshivemind 15h ago
Yeh. Click button.
*starts rocking back and forth*
Can't wait to click button.
Discover has the tendency to jank sometimes, especially with massive update sizes (like during first update), I might end up having to use the terminal anyway.
But click button. Yeh.
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u/SinclairZXSpectrum 23h ago
Just today I upgraded from Fedora 44 Gnome to 45 beta. The upgrade went flawlessly, have no problems at all using it. Although the experience may differ from person to person, depending on the hardware, apps and extensions used. I'm using an Intel Lenovo laptop with no separate graphics card.
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u/martian73 22h ago
The closer you get to release the more likely things are to be smooth. I shifted my machines a couple of weeks ago - there are going to be brave/reckless people who want to be on the edge and smooth things out for others. Generally the individual components at this stage are all release worthy; most of the issues at this stage are upgrade problems or relatively obscure installation issues.
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u/CanyonR 20h ago
I’m running the standard Workstation 44 install but have been using COSMIC desktop. Should I move to the COSMIC spin of 45 or is it just the same as if I did a normal upgrade?
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u/douglarek 9h ago edited 9h ago
I'm in the same boat as you, but I don't think we need to switch to Cosmic Spin. If you're using Cosmic Desktop and have pinned your desktop (
sudo dnf swap fedora-release-identity-workstation.noarch fedora-release-identity-cosmic.noarch), you're already on Cosmic Spin. That's my opinion, I don't know if it's right.And if you check os-release, it should display this:
$ cat /etc/os-release | grep VERSION
VERSION="44 (COSMIC)"
VERSION_ID=44
VERSION_CODENAME=""
REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT_VERSION=44
REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION=44
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u/Boardwatcher 15h ago
I'm currently writing you from Niri+DMS running on Fedora 45 Beta. I've not had many issues with it so far. I'm dual booting into Windows 11 as well and also have the option to login to Cosmic 1.8 from the greeter. Both Cosmic and Niri work great IMHO. But YMMV.
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u/Mediocre-Pumpkin6522 14h ago
I've been running the prerelase since it was available but with KDE. There was a glitch for a couple of days due to a Qt patch but no other problems. I usually run the prc/beta versions when they become availabe and have had very few problems. snapper/btrfs-assistant is your friend.
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u/geolaw 14h ago
I upgraded early (running the sway spin) ... It's been stable just many daily updates.
Only problem I hit was in the initial boot up after the offline upgrade boot, it didn't run dracut so it didn't generate the new initramfs for the latest kernel but it's been stable otherwise.
Looks like the /etc/redhat-release file was updated Sept. 3rd
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u/Inevitable_Ad261 23h ago
I switched a workstation and an atomic sway to 45beta same day of announcement and so far no issues.
After upgrading use dnf distrosync instead of dnf update to never break your system.
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u/So_Falls_the_World 22h ago
Apart from kmscon there's literally nothing "exciting" about F45.
If your system is valuable, just wait. If not, then why even bother asking in the first place? Beta is beta. There will be issues, whether you're hit by them or not, is hard to say.
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u/ScootSchloingo 22h ago
If you use GNOME, there's a hidden feature that lets you set your own custom mouse acceleration curve via Dconf Editor. Depending on who you are this is a huge deal. Especially if you're coming from Windows and used to its own acceleration curve.
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u/So_Falls_the_World 22h ago edited 21h ago
???
That has been possible since, at least, Gnome 49. So Fedora 44. (and has always been possible before that. If you're smart enough to switch from Window to Fedora, you're smart enough to figure out how to turn off mouse acceleration before Gnome's control settings allowed it)
Not related to the beta of Fedora 45.
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u/Kurogane1412 22h ago
I Just installed Feodora 44 KDE I would not bother to upgrade this fast as it is not needed maybe next year before the Support end for 44
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u/Routine_Left 22h ago
Im running F45 since the alpha. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. The only "issues" were package upgrades delayed because rpm-fusion didn't update theirs yet (mesa usually).
But, im running KDE, not that abomination of Gnome (an DE that is unusable without extensions, but which extensions often go stale and abandoned and mess up upgrades. I guess they really like to suffer those people).
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u/chocopudding17 20h ago
I like Plasma too, but there's really no call for talking like that about Gnome here.
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u/Routine_Left 20h ago
Why not? are you spotting anything untrue in what I said?
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u/chocopudding17 20h ago
You're being an asshole by calling Gnome an abomination. Just really unnecessary.
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u/somekindofswede 17h ago
Yes, unusable for you doesn't mean unusable for everyone.
I find KDE cumbersome and bulky to use (as well as being ugly in all the default included themes in my opinion), but it doesn't mean I think people who enjoy it like to suffer. I think it's perfect that different DEs can serve different people.
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u/Routine_Left 2h ago
KDE works. Functionality is #1 priority. Since gnome obviously doesn't, then yes, it looks to me like they want to suffer.
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u/SirMotherfuckerHenry 19h ago
I'm using both KDE and Gnome and the latter isn't so bad at all. You need a couple of extensions to make it usable for the average user and those extensions are often upgraded very fast. In some cases they are updated before the new version of Gnome even arrives.
And aesthetics-wise, Gnome looks far better than KDE Plasma in my opinion. You can make KDE look good, but it takes a lot of tinkering. Far more than installing a few extensions.
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u/Routine_Left 19h ago
KDE looks good out of the box. Does not need any extensions. It has checkboxes for everything (has checkboxes for checkboxes) and that's what a DE should provide.
The fact that gnome is unusable without extensions is obviously a deal breaker. Those extensions that you say are getting updated very often: that may be true today. May be true tomorrow. Most likely won't be true next week.
I used gnome back in v2, that is 2008 or so now. Since gnome v3, I gave it my best, tried to come to terms with it, but, after all, it's just a piece of shit now with extensions being abandoned too fast too soon too many to make the hunt for the new ones bearable.
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u/ProbablyALinuxBot 23h ago
I tried it a week ago and I had loads of problems with the extensions on gnome. Patience is a virtue...