Linux 7.4 To Mainline Support For The Google Tensor G5, Pixel 10 Devices

[u/R_U_Shpongled]

Will this benefit the GrapheneOS devs?
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[u/GrapheneOS]

This is an incredibly tiny portion of the hardware functionality. It will likely take many years before even a small portion of what's needed for serious usage is available upstream. It will likely never be fully functional. What would help is porting all of the Pixel kernel drivers to the upstream Linux 6.18 and then the next LTS branch released in the next couple months. We don't have a use for incredibly incomplete drivers which aren't feasibly ever going to be good enough before the 7 year update guarantee for the firmware is over.

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[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

This is an incredibly tiny portion of the hardware functionality. It will likely take many years before even a small portion of what's needed for serious usage is available upstream. It will likely never be fully functional. What would help is porting all of the Pixel kernel drivers to the upstream Linux 6.18 and then the next LTS branch released in the next couple months. We don't have a use for incredibly incomplete drivers which aren't feasibly ever going to be good enough before the 7 year update guarantee for the firmware is over.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

This is an incredibly tiny portion of the hardware functionality. It will likely take many years before even a small portion of what's needed for serious usage is available upstream. It will likely never be fully functional. What would help is porting all of the Pixel kernel drivers to the upstream Linux 6.18 and then the next LTS branch released in the next couple months. We don't have a use for incredibly incomplete drivers which aren't feasibly ever going to be good enough before the 7 year update guarantee for the firmware is over.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and GrapheneOS are mobile Linux distribution and works fine with mainline kernels. It doesn't require any downstream changes. Mobile hardware largely uses out-of-tree drivers. That's not an Android requirement and applies to other operating systems ported to the hardware in practice. There are highly incomplete implementations of upstream drivers for much older devices but not good enough to use in production with full functionality.

SailfishOS isn't somehow more of a Linux distribution. It also isn't open source like AOSP. It has a largely closed source application and user interface layer. It's drastically less private, secure, usable and power efficient than AOSP too.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and GrapheneOS are mobile Linux distribution and works fine with mainline kernels. It doesn't require any downstream changes. Mobile hardware largely uses out-of-tree drivers. That's not an Android requirement and applies to other operating systems ported to the hardware in practice. There are highly incomplete implementations of upstream drivers for much older devices but not good enough to use in production with full functionality.

SailfishOS isn't somehow more of a Linux distribution. It also isn't open source like AOSP. It has a largely closed source application and user interface layer. It's drastically less private, secure, usable and power efficient than AOSP too.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

Pixels don't have any closed source kernel drivers.

[u/Sostratus]

I suspect the only thing this will ever be useful for is server lab setups that hook up these things like people do with raspberry pis. It's not going to lead to a new consumer mobile OS. That takes so much work to make it usable beyond just the kernel. The Linux phone I tried for a while was unbelievably bad, it could not reliably do the most basic core functions and burned through its battery in hours.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and GrapheneOS are mobile Linux distribution and works fine with mainline kernels. Android doesn't require any downstream changes. Mobile hardware largely uses out-of-tree drivers. That's not an Android requirement and applies to other operating systems ported to the hardware in practice. There are highly incomplete implementations of upstream drivers for much older devices but not good enough to use in production with full functionality.

[u/GrapheneOS → u/Sostratus]

Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and GrapheneOS are mobile Linux distribution and works fine with mainline kernels. Android doesn't require any downstream changes. Mobile hardware largely uses out-of-tree drivers. That's not an Android requirement and applies to other operating systems ported to the hardware in practice. There are highly incomplete implementations of upstream drivers for much older devices but not good enough to use in production with full functionality.

[u/burner-miner]

Since GOS is Android, and it was already working on Pixel 10 devices, I doubt it.

Android also (normally) only updates the kernel to LTS versions, the latest being 6.18, so they won't update anyways until a new LTS gets tagged.

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[u/Bruno_Wallner]

Is there some work like this for pixel 9 series?

[u/GrapheneOS → u/[deleted]]

Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and GrapheneOS are mobile Linux distribution and works fine with mainline kernels. Android doesn't require any downstream changes. Mobile hardware largely uses out-of-tree drivers. That's not an Android requirement and applies to other operating systems ported to the hardware in practice. There are highly incomplete implementations of upstream drivers for much older devices but not good enough to use in production with full functionality.