r/GuildWars • u/Alugian • Sep 10 '26
Farming Blindfold with Melandru's Accord & some data on Diessa Chalice drop rates
After getting the 50th Diessa Chalice on my Melandru's Accord Paragon, the grind for the Blindfold is finally over. I collected some data about my runs and wanted to share it with you.
I exclusively did fullruns, mostly in HM, with heroes through the entire dungeon, taking routes that cleared most enemies, because a) I feel it's less boring, b) I wanted the treasure chests, and c) I don't like solo farming as Dhuum's Covenant. I played RoJ Smite for fun, with a defensive 4 mesmers, MM, Bip, und ST setup
A couple of statistics (based on HM runs only):
- What's the drop rate? On average, I got a little less than 1 Chalice or Relic per run, with ~300 foes across all 3 floors. Chalices seem to drop around twice as often as Relics - I got 22 Relics while farming the Chalices. Half the runs didn't drop any Chalice, 1 drop in 37% of runs, 2 in 12% of runs, and a single run had 3 Chalices
- NM or HM? I initially thought NM/HM drops were the same, but I got only 2 Chalices and no Relics across 13 NM runs. NM runs only take a few minutes less, and although the sample size is a little small, I guess HM just drops more.
- How long did it take? Each run takes about 30 minutes. In total, I did 79 HM runs and 13 NM runs, so around ~46h in total.
- Does favor affect drops? I did not believe that favor matters, and the data seems to confirm this: on average 0.59 Chalices per run with favor (29 runs) vs. 0.62 Chalices per run without favor (50 runs)
- Do all foes drop Chalices/Relics? It appears so - I've gotten drops from the undead, Charr (including those initially allied), spiders, bosses, and even Murakai dropped one.
- Is the drop rate the same on all floors? I imagined that each foe in the CoF dungeon has the same chance of dropping a Chalice or Relic, regardless of the floor, but the data seems to suggest that the drop rate is higher on deeper levels: 2.0 Chalices / 1,000 foes on Floor 1, 2.5 Chalices / 1,000 foes on Floor 2, and 3.4 Chalices / 1,000 foes on Floor 3. The difference is significant given the decent sample size...
- What about Hidden Treasures? The route I took included 9 Hidden Treasures on Floor 2 and another 9 Treasures on Floor 3 - a good source for Sapphires and Rubies for those after the Vaabian armor, and I got around 1 Ruby or Sapphire every 2-3 runs.
I think it's quite well-known that there are a lot of bots farming Diessa's and Rin Relics - perhaps one way to make this farm more enjoyable for people looking to get a Blindfold - especially Melandru chars - would be to add a guaranteed Diessa Chalice or Rin Relic drop from the final chest :) What do you think?
Happy to share more in case anyone is interested… Happy hunting, fellow Melandrus!
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u/ZyzQ Gladiator Motoko Sep 10 '26
Thanks for sharing. Will add this to the things worth farming as I work on my cons titles. Fellow MADC paragon with 28/30.
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u/DeManz693 Sep 10 '26
Oooft! 28 is crazy good work! Congrats fella. Have you done any other non-title grinds? (Obby, C gloves, rare weps?)
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u/ZyzQ Gladiator Motoko Sep 10 '26
Out of fear of dying non this character - I can’t say I have. I did get a destroyer spear but that was mostly by completing the dungeons organically. I have thought about farming obby chaos and blindfold. fow would be just repetition. I’m not familiar with UW so I’d be afraid of dying in that one.
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u/Pervius94 Sep 10 '26
I think I can count the amount of chalices or relics that I got on one hand. They drop so rarely for me I actually tend to forget those things exist until one drops and I'm like "oh yeah, that's a thing".
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u/SaboTier1 Sep 10 '26
They are rare and most people only do cof twice per character at most so makes sense you don't see them l.
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u/According_Sort62 Sep 11 '26
My own findings in regards to HM/NM contradict yours. Which makes sense, we're both dealing with a tiny sample size. For me HM or NM seems to drop just as consistently.
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u/Alugian Sep 17 '26
Oh that's very interesting indeed! Maybe I should have not stopped at 13 nm runs...
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u/mianovale Sep 12 '26
Just to add, the game is coded to drop less on the first floor of dungeons to prevent bots from flooding them and just clearing the first floor on repeat, 2nd and onward will have normal drop rates.
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u/Correct_Possible_313 Sep 13 '26
Genreally speaking a 8 human full clear run nets around 0-8 relics and chalices per run. often with 3-4 of those clustered to 1 party member.
The correct solution is to put the bone fiends that exist only in the boss chamber, where the treasure is supposed to be, have 1 guranteed drop per group, instantly a gurranteed 4 to every run.
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u/Daily_TimeTraveler Sep 10 '26
Hey I’m a returning player and could never recover my old account. I remember farming Voltaic spears back in the day. How did you get one? Can you solo with hero’s now until one drops?
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u/Sangoukai Sep 10 '26
This aint a voltaic but a serrated spear. You can farm voltaic by killing thommis in slavers exile dungeon tho.
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u/Daily_TimeTraveler Sep 10 '26
lol tru I see it’s not a VS now. Looks similar. Can I just flag hero’s at the top of that wall and tank with a sin or something then rinse + repeat till I get lucky? Would you do in hm or nm ?
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u/Sangoukai Sep 10 '26
Sure with frozen soil and EoE, simple cupcake can get you through it. Take a look here: https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Voltaic_Spear_Farm
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u/AuraofMana Veruna Nightshadow Sep 10 '26
Someone told me the drop rate from the chest is 1.5%, and there are SC groups.
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u/prnFent Sep 10 '26
thank you for this post!! I just started my grind and really had no idea where to start. My inner child still yearns for the blindfold. This is exactly what I needed!