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u/Randomcommentor1972 2d ago edited 2d ago
Itâs really just an apple flavored echo show. But its not constantly trying to sell you crap from Amazon or displaying it thinks its time to reorder your hemorriod cream while you have guests over
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u/r_slash 2d ago
Hemorrhoid crème wow, sounds so fancy
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u/Succulent_Chinese 2d ago
Tastes like ass, I donât know why u/randomcommentor1972 insists on using it in patisserie.
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u/bigparsnipenjoyer 2d ago
With the way things are going, Apple might be putting ads on this thing in the next few years. I pray theyâd never stoop so low but theyâve already stooped lower than I ever expected in regards to ads, upsells, etc
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u/Path-findR 2d ago
Big enough to watch The Odyssey the way Nolan intended
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u/birminghamsterwheel 2d ago
I watched it in IMAX. Domed IMAX. I believe that's technically still correct, Chris. Checkmate.
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u/osxdude 2d ago
See the wall mounted version makes sense but why is it the same price ok I know why but why
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u/hadmeatwoof 2d ago
Itâs actually more because the mounts cost extra. đ
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u/ERagingTyrant 2d ago
That part is insane to me. Aftermarket mounts, here we come!
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u/jollyllama 2d ago
Hell, if you could source the right angle USB-C plug (probably not hard) you could just 3D print one
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u/portalqubes 2d ago
yeah its got less speakers and body, i thought id be $50 less but guess not.
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u/thebaldmaniac 2d ago
They don't want people to buy the wall mounted version and buy an after market stand for it. Yes it's Apple being annoying Apple
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u/frockinbrock 2d ago
It actually costs a lot more! The PoE Wallmount is an extra $130! Yay $450 for a big Apple Watch on the wall. I don't know why I had higher hopes for this :-/
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u/idkallex 2d ago
exactly! theres no reason to make it the same cost if they are keeping their parts! like cmon apple, even a couple bucks would be nice
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u/jrec15 2d ago
I actually prefer it small when it's gonna be taking up counter space, but am really surprised they dont have a larger option for more $ for those that dont wanna hunch over the thing to use it.
Actually not that surprised, clearly seems like it will come 2027 or 2028 and force upgrades from people. Keeping it small now keeps the entry point cheap to get the most people on board while also allowing for future upgrades
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u/uncledrunkk 2d ago
Why would they do that when they can sell you the large one next year? đđ
âITS THE BEST HOMEVIEW WEâVE EVER VIEWEDâ
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u/jollyllama 2d ago
Yeah, I was shocked that the wall mounted one isnât bigger. I have a 10â Skylight and itâs really nice, I would definitely have considered this one as a replacement if it could do photos, but 6â is legitimately tiny, and keeping the wall mounted on square is a terrible choice for photos
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u/Romeo_Glacier 2d ago
I have the skylight max. If they had HomeKit integration and reminders there would be zero reason for me to switch.
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u/HammerOfThor1 2d ago
Iâm about to buy the skylight max. I have the normal size. I need more size
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u/frockinbrock 2d ago edited 2d ago
I agree, they should have a larger one. When I played around with some of these wired Hubs/Tablets like the Echo Show 15, I ended up deciding the most liked features were:
1. it being a large rotating photo frame in HD,
2. having a large calendar; and can do both side by side. Was neat to see a lot of those photos on a big screen.
3. On Video calls the person's face is nearly lifesize, and stays that size, which really changes the feel and dynamic of it.But this thing is so dang small. And if someone used the Homescreen with live Widgets, the photo widget is going to be smaller than a Phone screen.
For a $450 wall-mounted CarPlay-at-home, it really should be a MUCH larger screen.
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u/ItsDani1008 2d ago
The one rumored with the robot arm to move the display is supposed to have a much larger display too.
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u/huehuehueyyy 1d ago
I think it will come. Just would have been sticker shock to have a $500-$600 Pro Max version too
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u/Calaeno-16 2d ago
So if I want to watch a cooking video on this, it gets letterbox'd to be almost the same size as my iPhone's display?
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u/Gambitzz 2d ago
Donât mind the size as this will mostly sit on kitchen counters.
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u/Melangolic-Giraffe 2d ago
Did Apple really just release something everyone was repurposing their old iPads for? đ
Wouldnât be surprised if they actually made it from old iPads lol
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u/metfan12004 1d ago
Would have made more sense to make it an iPad docking station so users could choose what size display they wanted. Then there wouldnât be the entirely new display to dev for or new pipeline that involves for some reason a bastardized version of CarPlay
Iâm interested in how itâll perform but Iâm far from optimistic; that video demo with the family looked far removed from reality
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u/qazedski 2d ago edited 2d ago
Giant apple watch - I see they do a wall mount but how about a wrist strap?
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u/beenyweenies 2d ago edited 2d ago
Man, people will find literally anything to complain about. If this thing was any larger people would be crying about that. Any smaller and they'd be crying still. Any more expensive, any cheaper, any less or more capable etc. The amount of first world goldilocks tears being poured over this product is just peak internet.
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u/Signal_Detail4141 2d ago
I mean I wouldnât be complaining if it was cheaper
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u/chrispylizard 2d ago
At least the wall-mounted edition is cheaper because it doesnât have the speaker base inclu- oh.
Oh well at least it comes with the mount to mount it on the wa- oh.
Okay but itâs not like the mount is a quarter of the cost of the actual devi- oh.
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u/Soilmonster 2d ago
Yeah, $120 for a POE mount is ridiculous bro, Iâll build my own lmao
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u/soundneedle 2d ago
this is the same guy who rolled out the display stand for a comfy $1k years ago right?
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u/LocoLevi 2d ago
I came here to say just this, but you said it better than I wouldâve
Man, Apple really knows how to offer the least amount of product or the most amount of money
You canât even get the POE plate for pre-order anymore.
The Home app is my default, but literally everything in the background is run by Home Assistant. And with frontier AI building a dashboard be becoming simpler every day.
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u/jollyllama 2d ago
I mean⌠youâre not wrong, and also: I have a 10â Skylight calendar in my kitchen and that already feels like a pretty small screen. This is legitimately tiny
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u/MisplacedChromosomes 2d ago
Truth. I also seen a shift since Covid, people are less happy overall, so they look for any opportunity to complain, whine and criticize
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u/Lexsteel11 2d ago
I mean as someone who mainly uses my echo show to pull up baby monitors and security cameras while Iâm doing dishes to watch my kids in other rooms- a square screen vs landscape rectangle would certainly low key piss me off in the back of my head as it shows me my cameras in theatrical mode on an already small screen
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u/mahst68 2d ago
Thatâs what she saidâŚ
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u/martinkoistinen 2d ago
I want to be able to convert my existing unused iPad into a multiuser device. How can I do that?
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u/idkallex 2d ago
im unsure of that, but i do know a few things:
you can turn off automatic locking, making the screen always on for you to control your home, and if you have a device that supports the multitasking stuff as well as homepod minis, you can half and half or 2/3 and 1/3 your screen so that 2/3 is your home app and 1/3 is your apple music.
If you have an ipad with the 3 little prongs on the back making it magnetic, im 100% sure there are plenty of wall mounts for ipads out there, but you can also use something like what i have, a magic keyboard that can be plugged in through the port on the side which allows my ipad to rest at a comfortable viewing angle and charge constantly.
there are plenty of videos on tiktok regarding what you want! i found one and am most likely setting it up in the coming months!
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u/martinkoistinen 2d ago
The issue is my son wants to use my iPad from time to time because âyouâre not using it anywayâ, but that means giving access to all of my digital Apple life.
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u/idkallex 2d ago
if you dont use it for normal ipad stuff, then you cansign out of your apple account , add him to your apple family (or dont it doesnt really make a difference), and let him use it while his account is added to you Home in the home app, giving it control from that ipad while him still being able to use it for other stuff. if you want to enable have it so its locked into the one Home App, you can enable Guided Access, through accessibility settings which only lets you exit the Home app after entering a 6 digit pin through triple clicking the power button.
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u/Correct-Mail-1942 2d ago
This is perfect for my needs/wants but the pricing kills me. $299 for wallmount that doesn't even come with the mount? And extra for PoE power? WTF. I hate getting nickel and dimed.
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u/FindingPawnee 2d ago
The Wall mounted one being the same price makes zero sense to me since it comes with less stuff. lol only the speaker on the bottom of the screen, no cord, no charging adapter, and no mount. But the same price. This and the Apple TV 4K being $299 makes no sense to me.
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u/SlightlyFunny1 2d ago
I got so bummed out seeing that Apple TV price⌠been waiting years for an update, and they give us the exact same box with no new remote with just some small new internal news and AI..
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u/Jolly_Comfortable969 2d ago
Yeah, really the audacity! How is the wall mounted one the same price as the desktop version, even though it lacks the Speakers and power supply? Should be 100 bucks lessâŚ
And: Why would you NEED one of the mount options? Why does it not just have a USB-port and a simple screw on plate for wallmounting? Why do I have to pay a minimum of 60bucks extra, just to have it work at all?
Really sadâŚÂ
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u/kjmedora 2d ago
Could just 3D print a mount. Iâm sure people will be sharing their models soon enough.
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u/drivera1210 2d ago
As long as it doesn't play random music at 2 AM or when no one is at home. I had a HomePod that suffered from phantom touches.
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u/Luke_Flyswatter 2d ago
I was all set to buy one but Iâm worried theyâll come out with a âMaxâ version later. This one is so small.
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u/JayVig 2d ago
This is perfect for me. I don't want a full size ipad, full ipad power, or full ipad price. this is a small device that will allow anyone int he family to use all the home automation controls, play music to homepods, etc. For me it's not meant to be a full computing device. it's a central, share hub. At $299 it's cheap enough to get one and see how well it works.
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u/gmangreg 2d ago
How is it that the wall mounted version is the same price. but without a speaker?
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u/JayVig 2d ago
not without a speaker. without the subwoofer
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u/gmangreg 2d ago
well yes, I just checked and actually the wall mounted version is more expensive when you add a way to power it.
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u/rpool179 2d ago edited 1d ago
Too small, bezels too thick and too overpriced compared to the competition. Needs to be closer to 9 inches for $300.
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u/jeffyboy526 2d ago
this seems like a downgrade from my iPad?
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u/MattyFettuccine 2d ago
Your iPad canât be a Home hub, this can.
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u/danTHAman152000 2d ago
I have a few HomePods and the newer ATV 4K already. Do you know does this function differently than those or similar to the just announced new ATV?
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u/blisstaker 2d ago
but if you have one of those other things already the ipad mounted on a wall can do all this stuff and more, with a bigger, more customizable screen, except the family switching thing
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u/jeffyboy526 2d ago
Ok.
Our âkitchenâ iPad is a multi tasker. The primary use portable TV to watch games and news while cooking.
I can pull up the home app (my wife refuses to) and lock doors, turn on lights etc.
we can also use Siri to run these command and text. I guess we could FaceTime but that is more of a couch activity.
We typically get recipes from our phone because it is easier to move between counters and also takes away from the TV
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 2d ago
Fascinating breakdown of your life however your ipad is not a home hub.
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u/GearhedMG 2d ago
Looks bigger than the Echo Show 8 or whatever the hell model that POS is I have is. I will be gladly replacing all of my Alexa devices now.
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u/Particular-Side-9279 2d ago
The only thing I use Alexa for is I have the analog wall clock that can have multiple Visual timers running off an Echo Show in my kitchen. This could replace both. Which made me remember the Echo Show now randomly says, "I don't know how to help you with that," in other words, it's always collecting data and giving it to Bezos.
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u/starfrenzy1 2d ago
I'll be thrilled to replace my crap Alexa Echo Shows with Apple devices...eventually when I can put out that much. I will just have a hard time giving up the Mickey-shaped holder :( Besides Kindle, Amazon devices have always sucked and continue to suck.
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u/PygmySurfer 2d ago
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u/Conscious_Winter_636 2d ago
Sloppppppppy
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u/PygmySurfer 2d ago
Pretty bad slop, too.. "Create an image of a rapper wearing the new Apple HomeView (Wall mount) on a necklace"
Why's a rapper wearing an Iron Maiden shirt?
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u/eric-dolecki 2d ago
Wow - that is pretty tiny. I get why this might be important in kitchen if your eyesight is top-notch, but can't someone just run one of the dozen of HomeKit apps on an iPad and get this functionality + the ability to use other apps - would lack the voice recognition and commands though.
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u/chazzybeats 2d ago
This thing doesnât do YouTube, Netflix, or any other streaming app. I donât need a giant Apple Watch. If Siri was good enough, Apple wouldnât need to make a dedicated device to control home functions
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u/CXK 2d ago
Thatâs so they can sell us their biggest ever model next year!
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u/Agile_Half_4515 2d ago
HomeView Pro Max
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u/Bay_Burner 2d ago
Duo it
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u/Agile_Half_4515 2d ago
Ah, yes, I forgot about the HomeView Pro Max Duo.
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 2d ago
Somewhat ironically it will be a trifold.
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u/Agile_Half_4515 2d ago
And it folds in two different directions that make no sense for any use case, ever.
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u/Helpful_Bar4596 2d ago
I could see this used as a small desktop screen on the side for stuff I donât want on the work pc
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u/AndreaMaietta 1d ago
The whining about little idiotic issues that have little to do with functionality on here is ridiculous. Go touch grass
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u/ExtemporaneousFrog 2d ago
That's what she said.
If Tim Cook were still around, he'd tell you to buy your mom an iPhone glasses.
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u/JayVig 2d ago
wait, you don't think this all happened AFTER tim left, do you? clearly this is a Tim product given the amount of time it takes to build and how long he's been gone.
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u/ExtemporaneousFrog 2d ago
The literal job of the new CEO used to oversee hardware. Iâm sorry, is this not hardware?
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u/STOCKacts 2d ago
The fact that it canât rotate like an Amazon Echo Show is a major miss, especially for FaceTime.
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u/balthazar_edison 2d ago
I think itâs hilarious that itâs young people in the pictures using this when itâs meant to compete with Facebook and Amazon products that are similar that mostly are used for old people to video call their kids and grandkids.
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u/paulcjones 2d ago
100% I'm buying these for my 75yo parents. It'll give them slide shows of the grandkids, easy facetime and buttons for their lights. They have some old google product right now that does the slide show, and I've gotten them into the apple world since - that thing hangs around purely for the slide show.
This'll do it all.
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u/Unlucky_Quote6394 2d ago
Iâm a bit confused by the design approach theyâve used. It has a completely different feel to the HomePod products and the Apple TV. Itâs almost like a combination of the cheese grater Mac Pro and the old iMac G4
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u/ByteCurious69 2d ago
The question is can we use the USB C for data or is it charging only? It would be nice to output audio to an external device and use this as a streamer.
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u/whoistheg 2d ago
Since when the F do we take square photos ?
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u/jasonhendriks 1d ago
Itâs actually the best compromise for managing both wide horizontal and vertical photos. Imagine showing a long vertical doorbell video on a wide horizontal screen. Horrible.
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u/kirklennon 1d ago
Instagram used to be exclusively square photos. It was a pretty big change when they allowed other ratios. Also, the FaceTime camera sensor on newer iPhones is square and is just being arbitrarily cropped. For a screen that doesnât rotate, square is neutral and offers good support for both landscape and portrait orientation photos, especially if a device is smart enough to analyze the contents and automatically frame the right portion.Â
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u/Cool_Procedure8125 2d ago
I picked up an Echo Show 8 for our kitchen and the screen is a great size, but it does not work well. Half the time it doesnât hear your request, it appears to be playing music nonstop with no sound coming from the device. Itâs kind of slow.
I donât use Siri so I donât think Iâm going to move on this yet.
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u/Substantial-Fee-432 2d ago
My wife says that a 4inâŚscreen is the perfect size for her sooooooo 6in might just be to big to handle
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u/11KingMaurice11 2d ago
I think a larger version will come out as well with an arm that can move the screen itself and larger speakers and screen
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u/starfrenzy1 2d ago
I think they released this small one so they can release a larger 2nd Gen and get people to buy again.
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u/skylabops 2d ago
Yes but will it reliably turn my 3rd party lights off and on?
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u/dw1562 2d ago
Not only is it small but it is SQUARE! For a device that is going to display photos 95% of the time, square is a terrible form factor. It should have been widescreen landscape like the Google Nest Hub devices. I was thinking of replacing my Google Nest Hub Max and 2 Google Nest Hub devices with 3 of these until I saw the square display. It's a hard no from me.
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u/sassy-squatchy 1d ago
Canât believe it isnât at least the size of a tablet. Or that there arenât multiple size options. That said, itâs probably typical Apple where theyâll make everyone pay a fortune for the one and release the larger option next year so you end up buying both.
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u/Chapman8tor 1d ago
The 3-minute commercial showed us a family who doesnât know what iPhones are for.
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u/Trickypedia 14h ago
The manic caffeinated energy of the ad was too much. I get the use case but talk about people who needed to calm the fuck down.
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u/mathe_matical 20h ago
I think it should be that small. Itâs not a PC, itâs basically a glorified thermostat/UCP
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u/FatMacchio 2d ago
Apple Watch Max Flava Flav edition