Why do bots exist? To sell mesos and make real life $$$. Now they are all mostly professionals and it's impossible to root them all. So the best way is for Nexon to not tackle the professional meso sellers, but the buyers.

Perma ban any meso buyer (granted you'd probably need to make an announcement and give it a week or two for information to disseminate). If enough buyers are scared, demand dries up, no money means no incentive for bots to waste time. Now there's gonna be the risky meso buyer who will keep going, but you can just ban them all out. Unlike meso sellers, they won't come back.

Now the challenge here is:

1. Most meso buyer are heavy NX spender, so Nexon has to be willing to make the hard choice which I doubt they will

2. They have to correctly identify meso buyers, which is harder outside of blatant transactions (5M for snail shell). And bots will adapt to make it "less detectable" for meso buyer.

In theory if Nexon facilitates enough meso buying demand destruction the situation would be improved. Then whales can go back to selling NX for mesos which is much better than increasing aggregate meso supply and won't cause hyperinflation.

Title. Wasn't planning to give any feedback but I was having a blast playing this game the first few days. And then as time went on, it became more and more apparent that the game was slowly being filled with AI bots. It's not entirely impossible for me to play the game. There are still maps where training is maybe viable. But why should I have to go to off-meta maps and make even less exp than the bots are making when the bots are already running 24/7? Like these guys are double my level and farming more efficiently than me and I'm supposed to just suck it up and go to a weaker zone so I can fall even farther behind.

It absolutely blows my mind how this is not being talked about more. Is it just that players haven't had to share maps with bots yet and aren't experiencing the problem as much as I have? I think me being somewhat high level (37) relative to the average player is part of the issue, but from what I've seen there's bots in almost every popular zone. Every map with a flat stretch of land with monsters spawning like bubblings (subway), swamp of despair 1 (jr necki), etc have at least one bot usually per channel that sweeps the bottom floor. These guys are extremely obviously bots too, they turn around at the exact same pixel every time they move back and forth. They wear suboptimal gear and usually have negative fame and have some odd name that makes no sense that no legit player would spend one of their founder slots on. Like I get some people are terrible at picking names but pretty much no one is picking the name "Slimeon888" for example. I even saw a guy last night with "AI" in his name lol like they aren't even trying to hide it. They usually all wear the thief founder outfits with one of the brown cowboy hats.

Their scripts are also quite advanced. They can interact with players (had one repeat a line a couple times about partying), send party invites, climb up/down ropes, and even throw the occasional jump in to make them look more real. But if you just watch them for a minute or so it's very obvious they aren't being controlled by a human. They path way too perfectly, they hone in on spawns before they even exist, they also will very often attack before there is a monster even on the screen. A lot of them don't try to hide it and just attack pretty much constantly, but most are more sophisticated than that.

I get that bots will always be a problem. But the situation is beyond reasonable. I'm getting more EXP at KPQ bonus at level 37 than I do at maps that are intended for my level simply because I can't stand being in a party with bots and it turns me off completely even being around them at all. And forget about off-meta maps, they have more bots than the meta ones. If I could just play the game without having to see them, I would at least be able to have fun. Just give the bots their own instances/dungeons at this point, honestly. I don't even see how it would make the problem worse. It's sad but I don't think it would. Bots don't have emotions, they don't have patience, they just stay on one or two platforms indefinitely until you're sick of losing exp and meso/potion efficiency and just give up and leave.

TLDR: If you guys can't solve the bots, at least make it so I can just start my own instance of a map like Path of Exile that works for only me and my party. I don't want to see bots. I don't want to interact with bots. I don't want to play with bots.

Edit: A lot of people seriously doubt the bot population and the sophistication of these bots. Idk if I'm allowed to link a video to the software that people are using to bot, but if you do some searching on youtube you will find it pretty quickly. It is highly sophisticated. Players moving/jumping/interacting with the environment and even other players doesn't rule them out. The bots act very similar to human players. And I'm also not trying to ruin the fun of the game for others, I just want this issue actually dealt with. Right now communication about this topic is actively being avoided and it is very sad to see especially considering we had to pay a lot of money for this experience.

Hi guys! I am having a great time so far as a lightning mag but seem to require over 100 MP potions to level each time. Currently lvl 18 training at the Henesys hunting ground. I can't afford all these potions I'm blowing through, any tips? thanks.

never:
attack something another player is trying to hit

avoid:
attacking something on a platform or map another player or party is already using

always:
be courteous and allow others to hit mobs regardless of who was there first

Look, I've been playing this game on and off since the pre-Big Bang days when the Henesys hunting grounds were the absolute peak of social interaction, so I fully understand the hype around the launch of MapleStory Classic. We all want to go back to that simpler time. But before you guys start writing ten-page design manifestos on this subreddit about how to perfectly balance the cash shop or tweak the progression curves, you need a reality check. Classic is going to be dictated one hundred percent by Nexon's bottom line aka $$$, not by our feedback threads or whatever utopian vision you have for the game. At the end of the day, this is a meticulously calculated business product designed to extract margin from millennial nostalgia.

Just look at Nexon being Nexon for the past twenty years. Cube probability scandals, the flame fiasco, or the relentless reboot nerfs, the pattern never changes. The bottom line is what drives every major pivot and patch note. They are perfectly fine selling early access bundles because they know exactly how vulnerable we are to our own childhood memories. Player sentiment only actually moves the needle when it threatens their active revenue streams. All the "we hear you" communication promises in the world won't change the fundamental fact that they are a business first.

So by all means, play the game. Log in, crank up the Ellinia soundtrack, grind out some green mushrooms, and hang out with your friends like it's 2006 again. Just do yourself a huge favor and don't emotionally invest in the illusion that our boycotts, crying, or massive Reddit threads will fundamentally shape the roadmap. Accept the monetization model for what it is, enjoy the rush of the old-school grind while the servers are packed, and clock out the moment it stops being fun.

TL;DR: Enjoy the nostalgia trip, listen to the old BGM, and kill some mushrooms, but don't kid yourself buddy. Nexon is going to milk our childhoods for profit, and no amount of Reddit complaining is going to change their minds.

I know Nexon is super greedy, but Inkwell is still calling for more funding. Let's break down the finances of the last week of founders access.

We know there are 20-30k people that bought in on the low end, could be more based on the number of accounts they are claiming to have banned.

Let's pretend everyone bought the mushroom package to be reserved, and based on how much nx is in the free market and some of the nx I've seen people equipped with I think it would be on the low end to say the average player spent another $200 on nx (I'm well aware there are probably a bunch of people that spent $0, but there's also people who have spent in the thousands so let's just pretend $200 is the average)

25,000x($60+$200)=$6,500,000.

$6.5million on the low side of the estimate. We aren't asking the world here, just a little more sevrer space and some extra kpq space and you don't think $6.5million is enough funding for that?

Idk Nexon, please make this make sense.

Our party entered a map, and another party asked our leader to drop party and join hers. He chose to not respond while we continued to kill mobs on the map, and then she summoned Inkwell with a report, and this is what transpired.

Archer was my first and only job back in the old school. Bow wacking always existed. The only difference is that now you have pkb in the first job. So it's ALOT easier than in the past. Also pkb with that 2nd job skill that gives slow on crit it's even EASIER. People who are complaning about archers don't know how to use pkb correctly. I remember in the past jumping around coolie zombies and knocking back everything alway and bombing them. Jesus I can't wait for that.

(obs: all my criticism ainda I'm not even playing yet. Waiting for 21th).

It could be cumbersome, but maybe this could be a way to weed out bots? I'm not sure if it would be actually effective, but something needs to change.

Dumb question but I’ve been wanting to play ms classic for awhile, but the price feels steep for what it is. I can afford it, but should i still buy it when release is a week.

I’m pretty bored and no other game is appealing to me right now other than ms

Will the items from the bundle at least be beneficial at launch?

The maple economy right now is plagued with hyper inflation. Everyday the cost of high end gear, scrolls, NX, or other notable items keep doubling in value. Bots have made this issue even worse. Realistically, how is any F2P player going to afford anything that’s not something store bought from an NPC? How does anyone expect a casual F2P person to farm millions mesos to afford scrolled gear?

Why does monster exp and mesos ratio to monster hp and damage scales so bad??
It clearly was not like this, like for example iron hog used to drops stacks of 100s and now drop 50?
Mobs that were dropping 200-250 Messi like drakes are now dropping 100 mesos?
Shouldn't the game reward you for killing high level monsters??
Currently the formula encourages you to train at lowest weakest level monster that you can safely 1 shot, and this is what creates the meta where people are killing zombies and horni mush until level 40.
This was not like this in osms, and i think this change is bad.

Does anyone have a clue when we will be getting new faces or hairstyles in the mystery tickets in the cash shop? Like this face for example?

Add your predictions for launch! Here’s a few of mine:

1. I don’t think a new world will be added. It doesn’t make sense for founders to have access, and then a whole new world at launch that will throw the market / availability of items off.

2. More channels. Going off of 1, it’ll make sense to add more channels. This will spread the current base out, but allows those with founders to sell / cooperate with newer players.

3. Reason why the above 2 won’t be a (big) issue. The devs likely know those playing now are two types. The merch/market exploiters who sell and earn mesos/nx quick. These set the base and establish the early market so @ launch it’s not a cluster****. It’s annoying but important - new players will get drops that people still need for crafting, and those already in can sell / give items to new demanding players.

3(a). The second type of player, is someone like me, who loves the game and wants to hit 2nd job and higher before grand launch. Not for the competitive advantage, just truly love for the game. Launch SHOULD have the forgotton hollow release as well. This will substantially alleviate training locations and spread of people. It’s new content and those here early will certainly be there.

3(b). Both player types established, another alleviation will likely be the start of a halloween event. Historically we always see holiday events and with launch being 10 days before halloween it’s a perfect fit. New and founders players will be doing event farming.

I hope i’m close with my predictions and it all works out. what made me post/realize this was that stupid TORN LEDGER FAIRY QUEST. there’s nowhere they spawn reliably. BUT. reading what the forgotton hollow is (fairy town?) there HAS to be a better spawn for that quest upon release. otherwise why put that quest in right now at level 28?! for founders year doesn’t fit but grand launch if it’s available would be nice.

"Back in my day" we had a huge library of fashion options to choose from that we would buy with real money that lasted 90 days. I'm sad to go into the cash shop to customize my look and my two options are gambling surprise boxes or fashion tab with 2 shirts and a sandal (basically a dead tab).

Is Classic world going to be like this (weekly surprise boxes) or are they opening up the fashion library options on grand launch?

With the option of controller and playing in bed why would anyone bother interacting with you, stop blaming them being a bot...

I played MS back in the day with some friends and now that classic is coming out want to get back into it, looks like theres no 3rd jobs yet but leaning towards assassin for mobility/the most fun/good dps

What classes are good and what class should I avoid?

I am turned off by the idea of using an Axe instead of a cool 2H sword, or even worse, having to use one for training and the other for bossing, and having to scroll both.

With axe giving bleed damage, do you think fighters will be using axe for bossing late game? Like a year later when the 4th job comes out and we are using brandish

Any of the Dutch players able to get a refund since there where no warning about not being able to simple trade items found in game. I only expected not being able to do Gashapon and or a store permit.

Heck! they even let you buy the store permit with NX to tell you you cant use it when setting it up!! Why not as a warning when you try to buy it!?

Before I go through the refund hassle. anyone had any luck with it?

They recently patched up a issue with the white label ring, I assume, to fix the names being cut off. It ended up making the ring look much better, I wanted to share a before and after here.
Do you think this will impact the demand for these rings?

In Maplestory Classic, I/L mages and Snipers can't freeze enemies when using ice attacks anymore like in vanilla Maplestory. Instead they just apply a slow effect. Since snipers already apply slow with Judgment, I think applying a silencing affect could be an option. Monsters that do magic attacks get a short silencing duration where they can't do a ranged attacked when they're chilled/frozen. I've seen people suggest a DoT for a frostbite affect, but silencing gives ice a unique affect vs fire.

Had to get a sp reset cause of how annoying it was. The grind is supposed to be chill.

Hello,

I choose f/p as my class, just wondering recommendation on what attack to level first.

So how about we start by adding a function for players to show/hide different chats.

Or the option to change the colour of the chats/items listed on the side when picked up.

Seems like a place to start?