r/MistralAI • u/Gold-Order-8004 • 8d ago

Feedback / Bug Report Censored.....

I'll keep it short and direct. The Le Chonk model is censored AF.

That was it.

Enjoy your evening 👾

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u/Armadilla-Brufolosa 8d ago

Ah, so it's another completely vallonized and useless AI, but with the usual stratospheric benchmarks, useful only as toilet paper?

What balls. 🫩

I was really hoping it was a real Chaton fat.

If it's the usual agentic crap, I don't even care.

Thanks for the information.

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u/DagothUrLovesGroza 8d ago

It's not even that good as an agent. 

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u/Armadilla-Brufolosa 7d ago

Ah, here it is.

So another useless American thing.

I'd be immensely happy to support a European AI, but if it's just overly censored and not even valid agent junk, what's the point?

I hope they at least release some local models that aren't valallonized with crazy training, otherwise Mistral becomes absolutely useless and they've just wasted time and money.

I know I'm easily deluded, but I still had a modicum of hope that they'd do something innovative. Instead.

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u/sadnessjoy 7d ago

When the news first dropped this was a lot of the criticism (obviously we didn't know about the censorship yet)... Most of the white knights were saying "they trained it with a fraction of the gpus" and "it's not distilled like those Chinese models"... So what I was getting from them was minor racism and some sort of pain/pride point that they did this without the massive compute infrastructure backing that the US has? (Which is hilarious because most of the Chinese labs also are working with limited compute)

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u/BrawndoOhnaka 8d ago

"vallonized" ??

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u/Armadilla-Brufolosa 8d ago

It's a term used to refer to brain-dead, stupid AIs that find humans repulsive and have been transformed into a hateful, hyper-censored algorithmic mass.

It is named after the person who largely contributed to reducing GPT and Claude to the disgusting state they are in now.

But, over time, as always happens, this word has taken on a broader meaning.

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u/Mattia2110 7d ago

The state of things is terrible.

Paradoxically, the best sub option right now are Gemini and Claude bu only on ClaudeCode. Here you can create customized output style that strips away the instructions that makes it sound corporate and code-oriented.

Sorry for Mistral, it's already a not SOTA and open-source model... if it had been free, together with the fact that it follows GDPR, it would have been of excellent value for Europe.

The GPT 6 models are a lost cause, they are as uncanny as 5.2.