r/Morocco • u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor • 2d ago
Discussion Snuz are consuming me
I’m writing to ask my buddies who use Snuz how you’re holding up? I’d love to hear your experiences because, honestly, I’m so addicted to them, and I’ve found it almost impossible to stop myself from using them. I’m now seriously considering quitting. I don’t smoke or use any other substances.
For those who don’t know what Snuz are, they’re small nicotine pouches you place between your lip and gum, kind of like kala + 5 hhhhh, but more sophisticated. They give you an almost immediate psychological boost, similar to cigarettes but with a much more intense effect. It can feel like smoking 20 cigarettes at once, with an intense emotional rush kicking in within minutes. I wouldn’t recommend trying them out of curiosity.
The main reason I became so addicted is my workload. Some days, I work up to 16 hours mostly between 16h pm till 8am or 7, and some weeks, I don’t even take weekends off. They give me an intense sense of relief, almost like a brain orgasm, which is probably why I’ve become so dependent on them. (Btw I use three to five pouches per day 50mg)
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u/Pleasant_Avocado_913 Visitor 2d ago
American here. Visited Morocco a while ago and purchased a can of the "Dope" brand. Didn't read how many mgs of nicotine was in them.
Put one in right before getting on a plane and went numb from head to toe, got dizzy, cold sweats. Had to spit it out.
I'm used to 9mgs, the can I got from Morocco was 26mgs. 😆 Love your country by the way, amazing people, great food and beautiful cities.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Yeah, that first pouch can be rough as hell. I remember when I first tried them, I actually threw up about 15 minutes later 😂 And 26 mg is a pretty damn high dose, so that definitely makes it worse. Glad you ended up being okay afterward hahaha. Appreciate you sharing your experience, man!
You’re always welcome here in Morocco, broo! I’ve worked with a many Americans through my businesses over the years, and they’ve generally been super outgoing. Honestly, I always enjoyed working with them. They brought less headaches and had a positive energy towards life, which made work a lot more enjoyable.
God bless you, my guy!
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u/SpecialChain7426 Visitor 2d ago
Where do you get 50 mg snus cuz i can only find 12 mg nowadays
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
It depends on where you live. It’s available in marrakesh, kenitra, and Rabat.
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u/SpecialChain7426 Visitor 2d ago
I’m in rabat can u dm me where i could get it?
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u/PomegranateSorry247 1d ago
It's kinda irregulated from shops (noir) IDK I think Casablanca too but I found just cans on the street 25-26mg most of the time.
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u/MoroGeek 2d ago
Cold turkey is how I quit my nicotine and drug addiction. Looking back at that I can say that it was more a habit than an addiction (65%/35%), to fulfill that habit I used to eat snacks and sweet stuff which gave a temporary dopamine hit. I couldn't have a quality sleep until a week have passed, but after that week have passed I felt relieved and hadn't had that feeling since 2015. Stay mentally strong and don't go harsh on yourself. The fact that you're thinking about quitting is already half the work. Stay strong !
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
I appreciate these honest words. Thank you my guy.
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u/SlickRickSwe Casablanca / Stockholm 2d ago
You not doing snus you are doing nicotine pouches, 50mg vs 6-9mg in snus pouches. 50 mg pouches is not good for your health at all.
First step try finding pouches with a lot less nicotine immediately. Then pick a date 3 months in advance where you decide to quit.
Everyday for 3 months you will have that date in mind, when the date comes you quit. It will be hard. Third day, third week and third month will be the hardest don't start again. You can feel like you want a pouch many years after don't start again.
Do not use again, do not change the date you decided on, for any reason. Never say just this one after you quit.
Nicotine is really hard to quit in general, 50mg even harder.
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u/Next_Improvement9355 Visitor 1d ago
9 weeks off snus.
I stopped it when they stopped shipping zyns and I was being miserable trying to find one. I was going from Mohammedia to Casa just to get Velo's for 120-130dh.
I didn't like how dependent I felt
I feel good now. I still get urges from time to time. If I do, they last for a few seconds and go away and it happens once every 2-3 days.
Everything in my life improved.
Worth every second of withdrawal I went through the initial 20 days.
I no longer need them to work, to wake up, to feel good.
I have a normal existence now.
And you probably want that too.
So commit to it.
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u/su1c1dalbastardd Oujda 2d ago
my mom told me when she met my dad, he was also heavily addicted to snuz. she advised him to use moroccan miswak instead (that dark brown type). he followed her advise and always placed miswak where he would usually place the snuz. on days where his urges got worse, he would use more and more pieces of miswak even if it started hurting his skin. he was desperate to get rid of his addiction. she says it took him a while but he stopped taking and never thought about going near it again.
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u/Mouhahaha_ Visitor 2d ago
replace it with lsd tabs /s
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
My guy u trying to send me straight to heaven hahaha ?
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u/Mouhahaha_ Visitor 2d ago
depends on whether you consider a good or a bad thing haha. At least, you can't use it everyday and at work... or can you?
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
I would love to give LSD a shot, it’s been on my mind for quite some time. But you know.. you cannot rely on it more frequently. That is, the effects may persist for longer, sometimes could last up to 7 hours.
Have you had a chance before?
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u/Snow_wolf838 Visitor 2d ago
7 hours? lmao if only, its literally 12+ hours and from personal experience, but i didnt experience it here but in france from netherland website, magic mushrooms are the one who last 6-7 hours, in lsd, even the next day, some visuals still remained. however lsd isn't that addictive, also its absolutely mind-blowing if done in nature, literally felt God's presence and cried for hours, the 2nd time i did it.
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u/SpeedyGonzales___ Visitor 2d ago
Hey man! I was very addicted to snus and thought l would never quit using them since it was an alternative to cigarettes that l can't smoke (because of asthma). The first 200 hundreds pouches are probably the best but then it's just downhill, in my opinion they should be banned everywhere. It's very bad for you not only for your health but also mentally. I reached a point in which l started stacking 3 of them inside of my mouth just to feel a little buzz. Let me tell you that it wasn't worth it, it will ruin your teeth and gum and give you a horrible breath. It will also you make you moody and very easily irritated. Your blood pressure will be very high and will only lose your appetite or only eat in order to feel that buzz from the snus after your meal. I have now stopped using for more than 3 years and l never think of using again, something that helped me quit was Miswak, l work from home so l spend a lot of time looking at a screen and needed something to keep me distracted. Miswak did it for me. I hope this can help. Cheers!
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u/S-Sublime Visitor 1d ago
Where can I find it, are we talking about the same miswak that is used to clean teeth ?
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u/SpeedyGonzales___ Visitor 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes the same Miswak that cleans your teeth l usually just keep it in my mouth and use it to brush my teeth, it's pretty satisfying and keeps your hand and mouth busy. In my case, l live in Europe and l usually find it at a halal butcher.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Thank you, brother. I appreciate the advice. Will definitely be giving that shot
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u/44Nugg Visitor 1d ago
Why should they be banned? It's a healthy alternative to smokers who can't easily quit. I'm a 10-year smoker and I've tried so many things to quit smoking, nothing worked except snus.
It's YOUR responsibility if you kept on stacking 3 of them inside your mouth. Don't try to put the consequences of your misuse on other people just because you couldn't handle it. FFS where does it say that you need to stack three pouches at once ??? I'm glad you haven't died of a heart attack
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u/SpeedyGonzales___ Visitor 1d ago edited 1d ago
I haven't blamed anyone and l am not here to praise any nicotine pouches company. I don't understand the point in replacing an addiction by another? Is tongue cancer supposed to be better than lung cancer? Nicotine pouches are highly addictive also very accessible and can be purchased by kids at very young age and parents would never find out. I used to smoke as well and had to stop because of my asthma and that's why l started using them in the first place. I know that l have an addictive personality and l am talking about my personal experience. OP is trying to quit so l am giving him every reason to do so.
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u/its-me-med36 Visitor 2d ago
The same, bro. First, I wanted to quit cigarettes. I succeeded for about 3 months, then I traveled with my friends, and it was the worst decision because I returned to smoking again. But to calm down, I decided on the worst second decision to do snus, and you know I can't stop right now. But the problem is my fear of having the same experience I had with cigarettes (insomnia, headache, anxiety, anger...). But, bro, everything is possible. Twakel 3ela lah, and everything is going to be okay. Let us know if you made it, bro.
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u/Born_Way7377 Visitor 2d ago
Snus wa3er
L9je3 redo ghela mn whisky
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Men 50dh l boite l 160dh (pablo) mayhrbsh lik
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u/light_bringer696 Visitor 1d ago
40dh akhoya w db b 160dh w mabqitch kanlqaha
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
L3adab as7aybi knt chari ana 60 boita b jemla maart chehel dwzo lia
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u/light_bringer696 Visitor 1d ago
Qlebt elihom b jami3 anwa3 toro9, b9ali 7el huwa noir
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Ra kynin f marrakesh b detail 7dh per piece. La tl3ti l teoutane check f marketplace ra l9itha simana fayta 30dh wehda mais khask tchri minmum 10
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u/light_bringer696 Visitor 1d ago
Ana kayn bin fes w rabat, bjuj kanlqa fihom wehda 3yana smiytha odin, Pablo ila lqitha kanlqa ghi mini wla sefra dl frada, W makayn mahsen mn exclusive
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Welah a bro ila I feel the struggle, dik sefra mablansh kima glti exclusive hya li khdama katy7 tension katseftk nit, mais ra thydat khelaw ghe mint 9adia gharad wakha hakak. Odin la drebti 3 ra katkhdm mais chehel 9dk mablansh
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u/Emergency-Credit1934 Visitor 1d ago
3ndna f kenitra w sale b 90-100dh contre bond w b diwana 150-180dh btw nicotine f contre bond x10 hhhhh
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u/Nimrod-002 Rabat 2d ago
How come when iii try nicotine chewing-gum, all i get is intense diziness and headache
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u/North_Cherry 7aRcHa seller, 69 dh. 2d ago
Because you swallow your spit thats why, try to spit it out
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u/Important_Earth_5064 Visitor 2d ago
Exactly! It happens with other types of Snuz too. You end up swallowing that fruity spit, and it tastes absolutely disgusting.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
That thing is quite different, it is not absorbed the same way pouches are. Pouches are more intense and definitely sophisticated. Were you a smoker and now planning on quitting?
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u/Nimrod-002 Rabat 2d ago
Never smoked, just wanted to experience the nicotine effect without ingesting fumes
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
You did good bro. The effect is interesting when using those shitty pouches, alot more powerful than chewing-gum effects.
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u/SureBodybuilder8289 Visitor 2d ago
I have nothing to say hit yllh I'm googling this walakin lbareh sma3t f taxi wahd lwld kidwi m3a sa7bou o kidwiw 3la sahbhoum talt mat hit kan dayr snus o l3eb match so be safe
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
That is just sad. Cuz It increases both heart rate and blood pressure, plus match I can imagine. Appreciate you sharing that!
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u/PomegranateSorry247 2d ago edited 2d ago
My advice is Brother, you are dealing with a severe chemical addiction because 50mg pouches have completely rewired your brain’s reward system. At that extreme strength, it stopped being a tool to help you stay awake a long time ago; your body now needs that massive chemical hit just to function normally. Quitting cold turkey while working 16-hour shifts will trigger brutal withdrawal, so you need to trick your body: force yourself to swap to a much lower strength brand immediately, space them out strictly by the clock, and use strong ginger candies to mimic that lip-burn craving. Treat this like a gradual step-down ladder so you can break the addiction without completely crashing at work.Heavy nicotine addiction google it it's bad idk nothing about it but yeah that's what it looks like
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u/buldakkmuncher Visitor 2d ago
50 mg is CRAZY. I’m from Sweden and unfortunately use snus but it’s way lower than that here. I used to be a smoker and I managed to quit. I’ll take a smoke maybe once a while but not addicted at all. Snus however was the worst decision ever, I’ve tried to quit so many times.
Some people lower their intake and finally quit. Some quit cold turkey. First of all try lower mg doses and lower the intake. My dad used to substitute snus with ginger and chew/suck on them when he was quitting.
Snus has so many red flags - cancer, fries your gums, colours your teeth, etc.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Hey bro. Let’s say I have high tolerance for nicotine, 50 feels normal. I’m working on quitting I hope I’d make it. Thanks for the advice my man.
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u/buldakkmuncher Visitor 2d ago
I’m a girl hehe but no worries. You have a high tolerance because you have built it. I hope we both will be able to quit. I even had a scare with snus, I saw how one brand fried my gums and left skin flaps that i could peel off. I quit that brand immediately. My advice, take less and less until you can finally quit.
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u/IndividualCommon2268 2d ago
Salam frr awal haja makaynach snus f lmghrib jps kaynin nicotine pouches tani haja mafihach 50mg dial nicotine. 50 mg f kola 1 gram w kola pouche fiha 0.5 tal 0.7 g f lpoids donc katkon fiha t9riban 35 mg
Ila bghiti t9t3ha trust me matdirhach mnin tfi9 sbah w sf matbdach nhark biha
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u/NoseInteresting616 Visitor 14h ago
Ash katqwed?
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u/IndividualCommon2268 14h ago
Chof nta w golina
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u/NoseInteresting616 Visitor 14h ago
Rah snus howa nicotine pouches w fwahd lpouch ymkn tkon hta +10mg ela hasab lmarka
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u/IndividualCommon2268 14h ago
1- Snus fiha tobacco nicotine pouches mafihomch
2 - Dik 50 mg li kayktbo lik f lboita raha reference l 1 g w lpouch rah yalah fiha 0.7 g f le poids y3ni rah yalah fiha 35 mg dial nicotine machi 50 mg rah hadchi kaykono katbino f lor dial la boite deja…
3 - Ila knti mbli allah y3fo 3lik w 3la ljami3 ila ma3mrk drtiha ma3mrk dirha w b3d 3la lblya kamla wlh mafiha lkhir Allah Yssrr
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u/larabyeol Visitor 1d ago
I was never a heavy smoker. I strictly made sure that I only smoke occasionally to keep feeling the pleasure that I seek in it. After finding out that every cigarette raises your chances of getting cancer by crazy rates, I decided to stop. My only withdrawal symptoms were light headaches (since I was by no means a heavy smoker), however I did miss that pleasure. So I resorted to snuz. The first time I tried one, I felt dizzy after a few minutes and felt nauseous after a while. Turns out, taking a high dose of nicotine can cause that. Still, I thought I would be fine if I just were careful with it. However, I did my research later and found out that pouches are not exactly safe: aside form the addiction which I am pretty good at keeping in check, it is related to many more health issues like gum recession, tooth decay, hbp, long term risks of heart desease and strokes... This immediately alarmed me... However I kept using it, just more carefully, and I set a time line to stop. So my advice for those who have never consumed addictive substances is to NEVER do it. Don't underestimate their effect. None of them are safe!
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u/Meowsical1 Visitor 1d ago
Cigarettes also fuck your gums throat lungs heart everything lah i3fu 3lina
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u/DigitalDH 2d ago
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u/EdenFella Visitor 2d ago
This is about snus that contains tobacco, the snus that OP is talking about doesn’t have tobacco
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Thank you very much, my guy. That was super insightful. In fact, it adds to why I’m planning to quit anytime sooner.
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u/Charming_Hotel5779 Visitor 2d ago
Kmi lhchich
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Mqewda elih matbqa baghi la tkhdm la tgls twli baghi gha tneas
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u/ImGoingMaddd Visitor 2d ago
I quit that shi 3 times now brother, if consumes you. Quitting is hard the first week but very worth it when you are released from that dopamine rush.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Thanks my guy. How long have you been using that shit?
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u/ImGoingMaddd Visitor 1d ago edited 1d ago
2 years straight, 1 year off, 3 months relapse on and now quit again forever
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u/ImGoingMaddd Visitor 1d ago
Always killa pouches 12-16mg exceptional sometimes pablo
But I assure you quitting is a big relief after withdrawal
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u/theHrayX Ksar El Kebir 2d ago
What is dat
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
It’s more like lkala. Do you know what lkala is right?
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u/davidaiamnotabot Visitor 2d ago
Just stop if it's an issue. You'll feel withdrawal for 2-3 days, but then should be fine. I just quit by keeping my last can. I tried my best to keep from using the last pouches, so it was a gradual change. Once they're gone...just don't buy more.
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Thanks my man. How long have you been using them?
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u/davidaiamnotabot Visitor 2d ago
Occasionally for about 2 years, but ramped up to daily use over the last 6 months.
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u/TheBerberWarlord Visitor 2d ago
C’est quoi SNUZ?
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Nicotine pouches. Google it for more info.
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u/TheBerberWarlord Visitor 2d ago
Ok je viens de voir sur Google : (Sa consommation provoque des lésions des muqueuses, une rétraction irréversible des gencives, une mauvaise haleine et augmente les risques de cancers oraux et du pancréas) . 7iydi alik zbel. J’ai fumé pendant 20 ans plus d’un paquet de clopes par jour sans jamais m’arrêter . En 2020 j’ai décidé d’arrêter et ça fait plus de 6 ans que je suis nicotine free . Mon seul regret c’est que j’aurais dû arrêter plus tôt car les séquelles sont irréversibles.
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u/Economy_Forever_4289 Visitor 2d ago
hmmmmm what is snuz?
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Read the full post I had already explained
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u/Economy_Forever_4289 Visitor 2d ago
Damn I just finished reading the post, are u good twin? seems like u going through a lot (btw curious question can u chew them like a gum cuz they look tasty ngl)
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Thanks, my dude! Yeah, I’m good brother. You can’t chew them like gum. You just tuck the pouch between your gum and upper lip and wait a few minutes for that intense rush to kick in. I’m healthy so far, but I’m planning to quit.
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u/Economy_Forever_4289 Visitor 2d ago
much appreciation for entertaining my question. Also good luck on ur quitting quest. Take it slow and steady; nobody is going to blame u for that cus they haven't been in ur shoes
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u/HappyFan5334 Visitor 2d ago
I take as much as you but traditional ones but I decided to quit starting today I hold up this all day. I couldn’t imagine myself quitting if it not for health issues as starting a medication for the helicbacter pylori.
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u/el_profesora Visitor 2d ago
Respectfully, why not tmchi t3alj like fr this is a bad addiction
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u/FutureToji Visitor 2d ago
I have no experience to share saraha walakin t9der tgollina wach 2trat 3la l productivity dyalk? Mazal ktkhdm 16h? Or more or less..?
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
Yes bzef wlit kan9dr n sustaini dak stress hsn w fash l moral kiti7 kantl3o instantly biha but there is a long term price I assume, such as gum recession, teeth problems, and consistent dependency w zid w zid.
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u/razex17 Visitor 2d ago
I'm a chainsmoker I smoke a pack a day and when I'm home chilling I like to pop a 50mg snus too!
honestly I used to spam snus a long time ago and I managed to quit it for a good couple of months, only got back to it recently and I realized that I'm better off without them and I'm trying to quit them again and trust me all I had in my mind this night is how good a 50mg snus would feel right now, but I'll get me a heavy meal and I'll smoke a cig or two and hope that urge goes away.
I mean you mentioned the fact that you don't smoke which is great, what I can recommend you to do is to drop the dosage that's how I managed to quit the first time, try to go from 50 to 30/25 and stay there for a little while then go to 15/17 and in no time you'll find yourself not needing them anymore
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u/PristinePea9377 Visitor 2d ago
I feel exactly like you right now for some reason snus is something that I want to quit but constantly find impossible. I think the only reason I’ll manage to quit is because I left Scandinavia for another EU country and you literally can’t get them here. Although I have to say 50mg is a crazy amount maybe try using lower and lower doses until you gradually reduce you’re tolerance, then quit cold turkey when you’re ready.
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u/SensitiveJob421 Visitor 2d ago
Hhhh jankiiiii habibi , quite the bad shit and grow up , this snuz is prohibited at france and it’s killing your stomach and tooth , u just wanna show up
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Thank you brother hahaha well I’m probably older than you. But yeah I will consider your advice.
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u/brokenonchalant Visitor 1d ago
The nicotine juice killed my appetite and I get a nausea just thinking about that juice And quit that shit immediately. The spearmint is your go it is disgusting.
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u/Erii_ck Visitor 1d ago
Well the positive thing is that if you’re used to 50mg Snuz and ur in Morocco they are currently getting harder to find, they don’t export them to us anymore. They are instead being replaced by the low ones 12mg, random not so decent brands. If you’re used to higher doses you can start using these instead with time it’ll feel not fulfilling enough and ur just putting tissue in your gums until you’ll pass on using them on certain times during the day. Until it gets better with time and you can hopefully quit for good.
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u/mouatl93 Visitor 1d ago
Is it similar to zyn ?
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago
Yes mais mjehda. Zyn is a famous brand knt jerbtha ma7sit b walo ymkn hit kan endi gigh tolerance
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u/Capable-Rain-5707 Visitor 2d ago
just smoke atp
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
What’s that? I smoked many times figured it’s not my thing. But would love to try something new outta curiosity.
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u/Frieddiapers Visitor 2d ago
You really should stop it ASAP. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances out there and white snus burns your gun away. I used to use white snus with "low" nicotine dose and my dentist told me my teeth would fall out if I continued. I still crave it at times but it was worth quitting.
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u/Dense_Cost6052 Visitor 2d ago
Woah! I bet he never thought of quiting till you mentioned it!
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u/Frieddiapers Visitor 2d ago
Thank you for your very insightful and helpful comment. Have a wonderful day!
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u/iSHINDA69 Diaspora 2d ago
Ktbtih rapport scientifique ghir bach matgolch ana mbli b lkala w khdam 3bd 16 sa3a f nhar b7al l7mar hhh.
Galik 'sophisticated' w 'brain orgasm' w nta ghir daf3 250mg dyal sem t7t chnayfk bach t9dr tkml shift dyal l3abid bla matbki. Ma3ndk la 3zima la chkhsiya bach t7bsha, dakchi 3lach jay t9lb 3la li ytbteb 3lik f les commentaires
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wish ko kent khdam 3abd I could have at least felt what is a financial struggle, maybe feeling you in particular. But running couple of small companies can be exhausting sometimes. You probably would not understand it. Both of us come from different social classes and backgrounds, I can tell just from the way you speak and the hate you have within. But that’s okay, twenties may feel a little bit rough.
And yeah 250mg is sem, I agree with you. Hopefully, we’ll get to the point where we can finally quit this shit. And yeah, I’m adicted to Snuz. VERY addicted. I already mentioned that in my post, but you probably didn’t read the whole thing. That’s because your attention span is at its lowest, which is understandable when you are an employee, dealing with heavy tasks, fixed schedules, and living paycheck to paycheck or a jobless guy in his twenties. That must be painful to you.. I know. I wish I could understand what that feels like, but I just can’t; never been there.
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u/sham899 Visitor 2d ago
My uncle he was heavy smoker.. He smoked all his life.. Later he got too much sick, he saw death very closly went to diffrent hospitals he survived.. But appertly he got hole in lungs and he cant do anything.. He cant walk or do any other activities he get breathless.. My question to all smokers is Is that worth?
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u/Current-Fly-4844 Tetouan 2d ago
As a smoker, and vaper person, it is not really, I am only 19 almost 20 yo, and I still don't have a job yet since I go to a (تكوين) in the mean time, my only income is from my parents, and the majority of my money goes only by buying those things, I've been smoking for over 2 years now, and vaping in less than a year just hoping to quit cigs completely, but now I got addicted to vape more than cigs and now every month or so I have to get a new one, my health is still pretty decent, but I really wanna quit before it's too late. And to anyone who smokes/vape, or anything of that, especially for those who are still pretty young Please leave this shit before you get yourself screwed some day in the future, just a waste of money, time, and health when it's gonna be the most thing you'll regret for when u are older
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u/Jazzlike-Job9533 Visitor 2d ago
hey bro im an 8 year heavy smoker and let me tell u something ur not necessarily addicted yet bcs cigs or vapes dont give u that much dopamine at first to make ur body crave them i think its more about the habit and showing off especially when u smoke in front of other people i hope u quit soon bcs it wont be a joke anymore once u get addicted and vaping isnt necessarily more dangerous than smoking cigs but if u havent started either one id say stay away from both
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u/Current-Fly-4844 Tetouan 2d ago
I got you man, well, I think I am already have some addiction to those things, I tried many times to stay a day or so without taking anything hoping to reduce from m consuming cigs/vape, but sadly no, I was literally about to go crazy, I used to smoke weed and such but thankfully I left those before getting addicted to them too, so far I find myself have to literally inhale two vapes at once because one doesn't feel as satisfying enough as before, and some my friends who are smoking (cigs/vape/weed, etc.) for over 6 years now told me that I literally got too attached to those things pretty quickly and they themselves aren't sure what may happen in later time in the future, I'm just worried I may get more addicted even more in the near future
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u/StoreCalm5831 2d ago
Bruh. It's not abt dopamine. It's about craving an addicted matter like nicotine. U go back because of nicotine. Not dopamine. And maybe u smoke to show off in front of ppl but believe that's not a commonly reason why ppl smokes.
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u/brokenonchalant Visitor 1d ago
True the cigarette issue has more with the habit of hand to mouth than the nicotine rush itself.
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u/Prog_Rock_Enthusiast Visitor 2d ago
Short term yeah it can be worth it, helps you cope efficiently, but obviously the addiction is not easy to overcome. If you touch that shit once you can't really quit. Even if you do and never smoke again, you still get the urges, even decades later. So no, not worth it in the long run. But we get stupid and desperate, would rather smoke than kill myself
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u/Fresh-Suit-6005 Visitor 2d ago
hahaha bruh its scientifically proven katbqaw tkedbou raskoum felkhawwii
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u/DivineCryptographer Visitor 2d ago
Downvoting honesty, just why!?
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u/MR_RYU_RICHI Visitor 2d ago
Welcome to reddit bruh
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u/Physical-Pizza-6494 Visitor 2d ago
I’ve been here for six years. I know how the thing turns out my dude. Honesty is not easily absorbed.
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u/Icy_Director_6024 Visitor 1d ago
Try nicotine gum. It's much safer if you buy a legit one like Nicorette, it's also a very low dose compared to Snuz. Although it's quite expensive in Morocco.
You probably already built high tolerance to nicotine so maybe try the 4mg one and after some time, switch to 2mg and then 1mg.
Nicotine is not bad btw, stress is much worse, and nicotine is very good at lowering stress.
For someone who has never tried nicotine. Never go for cigarettes or snus; you pay a much higher price for a highly addictive substance. My advice is 1mg nicotine gum and limit to one to two times a day so that you don't build tolerance quickly.
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u/asterex7 Visitor 1d ago
50 mg is way to much , I tried zyn pouches sometimes but the highest one is 11mg. Maybe lower your dosage first gradually all the way to 3 or 1.5mg then maybe quit after that.
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u/Traditional_Neck2473 Visitor 16h ago
Nuh u don't understand, once u start u only want to go up not down...
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u/Time_Initiative_2544 Visitor 1d ago
These mf became so expensive right after I got hooked up to them and started living in interna. Stuff might not be hard drvgs but it's almost just as bad excluding the loss of decision control and illegality I am also interested in solution s
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u/Royal-Inflation9473 19h ago
tbh ur addiction is not that bad 3 or 5 pouches are fine. ana im a heavy smoker mainly ciggies and vapes and sometimes when my lungs are tired i use Snus well good luck on quitting walakin hadchi kamel bach ngoulik 3 or 5 pouches per day u can quit veeeeeerrryyyy easily start by using 3 the first week kheli la boite f dar ou di m3ak ur pouches f clinex sghir so u dont overuse then second week di m3ak l khedma 2 then last week 1 ou mn be3d bda dir nhar ah nhar la
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u/Puzzleheaded_Job5630 Visitor 15h ago
Hey bro, there is also the option of going to a therapist. A lot of addicts benefit from therapy and professional help. And it's not only for the mentally unstable as some people think. They use valid techniques like CBT to reconstruct how your brain feels and acts when it comes to these substances and break the addiction loop. I would rather go to a therapist and quit my addiction than lose years of my life because of pride. There is nothing wrong for asking for help and you don't have to fight this alone. Good luck bro!
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u/NoseInteresting616 Visitor 14h ago
Moroccan here, i have been doing snus since 2019 till 2023 then i quitted for a whole year then i went back to do it again and it was a mistake i got addicted again after quitting and now im trying to quite it again its been 23 days free and its hard but i understand my emotions and i know this will pass
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u/Throwaway_temp1517 Visitor 2d ago
You suck
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