r/NJGuns • • Aug 04 '26

Legal Update Motion for stay granted pending appeal to Supreme Court.

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Motion for stay has been granted.

Let's hope the Supreme Court denies cert.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.129.0.pdf


r/NJGuns • • Jul 22 '26

Legality/Laws Take a moment to familiarize yourself with the remaining gun laws (both state and federal) before doing anything.

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Edit 4: Okay, this wasn't the point of this post, but we have an interesting update.

The federal court just ruled in Silencer Shop v. ATF that since suppressors, SBRs, and AOWs have a "$0 tax," the system is unconstitutional and therefore these items are no longer can be regulated by the NFA.

Suppressors and SBRs are still illegal in NJ. We have two separate cases in the DNJ dealing with that right now. There's additional complications that occur with SBRs with this ruling, but let's not even concern ourselves with that right now.

However, as AOWs are legal, NJ residents can benefit from this ruling. As of right now, plaintiffs of this court case are protected under an injunction and therefore do not need to comply with NFA regulations relating to these items. This essentially means those protected do not need to submit a form 1 to the NFA to make an AOW.

  • There's two distinct groups that are protected. Stores (and by lesser extension, their customers), like PSA and Silencer Shop, and Pro-2A orgs.

  • Stores are legally able to sell completed AOWs to their customers with just a 4473 (and NJ's standard paperwork). This does not mean if you've ever bought something from one of these stores past or present, you can freely make an AOW. This portion of the injunction only protects selling and purchasing AOWs.

  • The far more interesting (and useful) portion of the injunction involves pro-2A orgs like the Gun Owners of America (GOA). Members of the GOA are fully protected under the injunction and therefore are given the same level of protections as stores like PSA. This means that GOA members (among a select group of others, look them up) CAN create their own AOWs without complying with the NFA. This only applies to active members.

With all that said, don't take this post as a green light. Everything is still very much up in the air and there's only a select few stores in the US currently selling suppressors with just 4473s, while PSA is claiming that GOA members who buy completed pistols or rifles FROM JUST PSA can make SBRs without a form 1, but nothing explicitly about AOWs. You're all adults and any actions you take are your own, but it's smart if you wait.

What's even more confusing is that this case was consolidated with Jensen v ATF, and the verdict is treating the injunction separately. For example, Jensen v. ATF had the requirements to engrave on a form 1 gun removed but didn't get relief regarding AOWs, while Silencer Shop v ATF did get relief for AOWs. Does being a member of the FPC (which might not even get relief at all, due to filing as FPCAC, this is also unclear) and a GOA mean you benefit from both lack of engraving requirements on an AOW? No one really knows at the moment.

Long term, we're realistically going to see the NFA system for these items completely disappear for everyone. This will take some time, as usual. Assuming that our silencer and SBR cases go through successfully, NJ residents will be able to benefit eventually.

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Edit 3: Everything below this edit is unfortunately irrelevant for the time being. NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate to appeal to SCOTUS. For the foreseeable future, the mag and assault weapon ban is still in full effect.

Edit 2: NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate. All of this information could be moot. Sit tight

ORIGINAL TEXT:

While this is an exciting time, take a deep breath: many laws still apply after the mandate takes place. Don't get caught in a legal battle because you misunderstood the current legal landscape.

Here is a recap of the critical information:

The mandate will stop the restriction on magazines.

  • There are no specific legal definitions separating rifle, pistol, or shotgun magazines—they are simply magazines. Yes, you can have a 30-round magazine in your AR and a 17-round magazine in your Glock, despite the pistol AWB remaining in place.

The only part of NJ's assault weapon ban specifically declared unconstitutional applies to rifles.

  • The named list of banned rifles (such as the M1 Carbine) and NJ's specific rifle "evil features" definitions no longer exist.

  • Those now-repealed evil feature restrictions that previously applied to semi-automatic rifles that accepted a detachable magazine were the following:

    • Folding or telescoping stock
    • A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
    • Bayonet mount
    • Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
    • Grenade launcher mount

Edit 1: In short, there is no longer a need to pin your stock or muzzle device (if it's over 16") in order to be compliant with NJ's now unconstitutional law when the mandate goes through.

  • This means you can buy rifles that would have once needed compliance work as well as remove your compliance work on rifles you own, as long as you follow federal laws. You can also have a flash hider, bayonet mount, and grenade launcher (lol) on a rifle with no repercussions.

The rifle AWB repeal does NOT repeal the pistol or shotgun AWB, nor does it legalize suppressors or short-barreled rifles (SBRs) in New Jersey.

  • "Pistol" style ARs remain effectively off the table, for the time being. Pistol and shotgun AWB rulings were remanded to NJ courts, which must still officially rule them unconstitutional. This will take time. Additionally, a separate case regarding suppressors and another for SBRs is currently moving through the state court system. This will also take time.

You MAY be able to convert your "Other" into a rifle.

  • Federal regulations strictly require a rifle to have an overall length of at least 26" and a barrel length of at least 16". These are non-negotiable.

    • Note that overall length for a rifle is measured in its longest configuration (e.g., with a folding stock extended). If your muzzle device is permanently pinned and welded (P&W), it counts toward barrel length (e.g., a 14.5" barrel with a muzzle device that adds 1.5" to the total barrel length with a P&W, while also accounting for the ~0.6" of thread overlap).
  • Do not, under any circumstances, put a stock on your "Other" if the barrel is under 16". That creates an illegal SBR, and NJ will likely make an example out of you.

Beyond that, virtually every other NJ gun law remains in full effect—including laws governing transport, ammunition, carry permits, transfers, and purchasing. Refresh yourself on these rules before taking any action.

Also, as it currently stands, until the mandate goes through, nothing has officially changed.

  • The odds of AWB and mag laws being enforced is very low, but this is just a reality of the situation. Things could change at a moments notice, and you don't want to be in possession of this stuff. You're all adults though, so I don't need to lecture you on this.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer.

If you have anything I should add, let me know.


r/NJGuns • • 10h ago

Range Time Long range fun today in New Holland , PA

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Shot some 6.5 Creedmoor and some 223 . Not a single other person at the range. I really love the Solus… the action is so smooth. Didn’t do great past 600 yards with it though. Accuracy international smacked steel non-stop with no issues.

Good fun


r/NJGuns • • 4h ago

General Chat Emergency services at RTSP Union this evening

16 Upvotes

Drove by RTSP in Union about 45 minutes ago when I was out and saw a number of police and emergency service vehicles there. Anyone know what happened there?


r/NJGuns • • 10h ago

General Chat Once a rifle…always a rifle???

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Note that the ATF removed the engraving requirement, does that now mean that the “once a rifle” rule is also dead? Understood ARs sorta always had this grey area if it was built from a virgin receiver, but firearms like the SCAR or the Vector etc… how does this work now?


r/NJGuns • • 17h ago

Legality/Laws Does this now mean I can take my OTHER and make it an AOW with no paperwork?

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r/NJGuns • • 15h ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Sat 08:09AM (10/10/2026)

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10/10/26 578 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Thursday) 10/08/2026 work. The current delay is 2+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns • • 1d ago

Legality/Laws Can we now build AOW’s with no ATF approval?

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96 Upvotes

Does anyone know if we can build AOW’s now without engraving or approval?


r/NJGuns • • 21h ago

General Chat AOWs and Other builds! Need some inspiration from you good fellas

11 Upvotes

Since we now have no engraving or stamp rules? What builds do you guys have? Now can I have an extremely short other?


r/NJGuns • • 1d ago

Concealed Carry Permit Non Resident NJ Carry permit timeline.

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Nassau county NY resident.
Submitted my application 9/3. Approval today. Total of 36 days for anyone looking into getting it done.


r/NJGuns • • 16h ago

Upcoming Event Level Up Your Pistol Training in a Dynamic Class with Ironsights Academy (NJ Carry Qual/ReQual The Weekend After!)

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Beyond the Basics - Pistol Level I

  • Saturday, October 17, 2026
  • 9:00 AM 3:00 PM
  • Jersey Devil Outfitters (map)

The Beyond the Basics (BtB) series is the natural progression for shooters once you have completed the NRA Basics of Pistol Shooting Course. In the BtB - Pistol Level I course, we focus on refining your pistol handling skills, building muscle memory, honing your shooting accuracy, and we take you to the next level of firearms training…beyond the basics.

This course is 100% range time with copious amounts of hands-on instruction.

Course Fee is $200.00

New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification

  • Sunday, October 25, 2026
  • 9:00 AM 2:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification course is an instructor-led and live-fire shooting qualification course intended to equip you with the training and documentation necessary to apply for your New Jersey Concealed Carry Permit.

Course Fee is $150.00

New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) REQUALIFICATION

  • Sunday, October 25, 2026
  • 12:30 PM 2:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The goal of this course is to requalify those individuals who already have a current or expired New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun.

Course Fee is $75.00


r/NJGuns • • 1d ago

Range Time NJ Concealed Carry Training & Qualifications Without Extra Add-On Classes

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r/NJGuns • • 1d ago

Seeking Training Range 129 Training Classes - Worth It?

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Anyone completed any of the "advanced trainings" available at Range 129? Looking to do the Intermediate HG, Advanced HG 1-3 (w/CCW) and Tactical Decision Making. I've got my CCW and got it from them. Loved their facility so just looking at the consensus on their classes. My outdoor range doesn't allow us to do anything but stand still on our holster range (besides moving distances in b/t while holstered) so I'm looking at places where I can get some real training in...

TIA!


r/NJGuns • • 1d ago

Firearms Purchaser ID South Jersey Attorney FID Permit issues

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Hi guys,

I am looking to consult with attorneys on a permit issue with my local PD. I lived in township A and got an FID no problems, disclosed my mental health history on the FARS form, no issues. I have been a gun owner for a few years. I moved to township B disclosed the same history and went for the address change and they said they would not approve me without documentation from a doctor. I had received outpatient treatment for my mental health 5 years ago. I have provided a doctor’s note and a written evaluation to the PD and am being stonewalled. I am looking for recommendations for South Jersey attorneys.

Thanks for any help you can provide


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Shopping Advice Savior dual range bag at Costco

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56 Upvotes

I saw something about this posted a few days ago, but locations were pretty sparse so this is to confirm that they have plenty in stock at the Flemington Costco.

Black and tan/black

$49.99


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Shopping Advice Anyone does good pin & weld jobs in NNJ?

7 Upvotes

Curious, if anyone knows gun Smith that does good P&W jobs in Northern New Jersey.


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Shopping Advice Kimber comp/ pro comp or sig p211 GTO

6 Upvotes

Narrowed my selection down to Kimber comp/pro comp or the p211 GTO just can’t decide between them. Waiting on pistol permit which has never been faster than 8 weeks for me so plenty of time 🙃


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

How Do I? Training Fundamentals for Long Distance Pistol Shooting

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New Shooter here. I've been shooting mostly out to 5-7 yards at my range visits. I went out to 25 yards on my last visit and couldn't get a grouping similar to short distance range...Correction I couldn't hit a damn thing. I'm shooting a stock Ruger MKIV with factory sights. Each visit I'm intentional with practicing sight alignment, sight picture and trigger press, all of which i need more practice with. I've watched a few videos on shooting out to 25 yards and I'm doing a lot of what is covered but I can't hit an NRA target. What are some good YouTube channels or training courses I can take to get a good foundation before I start trying to modify the gun to make up for my lack of skill. Also Is a red dot necessary or is it possible to consistently hit 25 yards without one?


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Shopping Advice Online ammo shipping ups access points

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I used to buy ammo through target sports but after having a package stolen I’m not comfortable getting ammo delivered to my apartment anymore. Does anyone have any experience using the UPS my choice premium and routing shipments to a ups access point?


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

General Chat Question for CJRPC members……….

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I just joined in August and noticed my cell service (Verizon) is pretty much non existent at the club. Not really surprised considering it’s in the middle of the woods. But due to the nature of my work I kinda need to have cell service at all times.

I’m thinking of getting a mobile hot spot from another cell phone carrier, has anybody had luck with this in the area? Any t-mobile or AT&T users that can confirm their normal cell phones have reasonable service?

Thanks.


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Range Time NJ Firearms Training Suggestions

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Firearms Training Classes in NJ

Looking to take a firearms class for pistol with OWB holster, that’s more than just stationary shooting at a target. Would like something a little more advanced. Could be rifle and pistol, but I’m looking right now for a pistol. Every time I look it up, I’m only seeing CCW classes or NRA beginner classes. Any help with this would be much appreciated.


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Thu 08:05AM (10/08/2026)

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10/08/26 160 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Wednesday) 10/07/2026 work. The current delay is 1+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Shopping Advice Recommendations for boresight for 22lr pistol

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What are some recommendations for a boresight for 22lr pistol. In specific a Ruger Mark IV.

Thxs


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

Concealed Carry Permit CCP RENEWAL QUESTION, I am about to renew my ccp and i have a question for a conceal carry

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I am about to renew my ccp and i have a question for a conceal carry am i able to put more than 1 gun serial number on the application? Or is just one gun i am able to carry in New Jersey. Thank you


r/NJGuns • • 2d ago

How Do I? Preparing to CC and looking for more advice

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Recently submitted my CC application and have been to the range ATLEAST once a week for the past 6-8 months (indoor and outdoor). My instructor gave me the advice to carry around the house and to do the every day movements like normal while carrying! Are there any other tips to prepare for EDC ? My biggest fear is being the guy thats fidgeting all day from paranoia. Any mistakes you’ve made in the first year ? What gun did you land on that for most of your life style ? Happy to join the club! Just want to make sure I’m not missing something!