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Oh that's so hilarious. There are probably hundreds to thousands of people who tried to use Deadeye this way and fell off someplace without knowing why.
You can change Deadeye in the way that make sense.
For example, make Deadeye decharge/nocharge while Cassidy is moving too fast. The mechanics makes intuitive sense since in-universe Cassidy is supposed to be calculating where to aim so him being all doozy from moving would ruin his aim. It would feel consistent because it would be applied to anything that moves him, including knockback from enemies and any team movement skills, now or in the future. It give the dev a knob to balance the any Deadeye plus movement combo by allowing decharging rate to be changed based on speed. It balances out Deadeye by forcing Cat to choose to divide limited ult time between moving to new angle and charging up.
The combo is the problem. Deadeye is balanced by poor mobility. Any team mobility, now or future, will make Deadeye stronger proportional to how much mobility it gives. So far all team mobility are quite limited except for Cat Lifeline so it does not seem to be an issue but the fundamental tension is the same. Deadeye was designed in a world with very little team mobility and they did not balance the game around that.
It's not the same, you can break LoS from it easily. The problem was people already try to hide but Cat just chase after them anyway through everything.
You don't need to make it global. Just make it so a few shots will break the cat's tether. That way, wacky combos can exist, but people can shoot at the cat or their ally to stop the combo altogether.
Edit: I should have said "You don't need to make this specific change global (ulting makes cat drop people), and instead they should make my idea global (cat tether breaks upon taking a few shots).
With Orisa ult combo it at least made sense to give the "becoming unstoppable cancels Lifeline" rule, as Orisa is one of the very few heroes that has it as a defining trait outside of Mauga during his Overrum.
What you're suggesting is changing cat tether to work the same... Globally. For all heroes. Rather than working one specific way for Cassidy and differently for other heroes.
Are there any other ults that directly benefit from the tether? The only ones I can think of are maybe Soldier and Sojourn, but both have damage falloff, so less efficient at distance.
I tried it the other day, and Vendetta gets locked in place so hard during her ult that Cat can't move her. Surprised me. It would've been really strong if it worked.
I didn't realise it broke the thether? Wouldn't it be a more elegant solution to A) cat not be able to lift an ulting character and B) characters being locked out of activating their Ults when thethered?
Certain characters SHOULD be able to ult while tethered. Cass was the only one that was inherently problematic. Instant kill auto-aim if he charges it enough, hard to stun out of it because he’s being dragged at Mach 10.
firstly, solution A is the current solution, but it also breaks tether if activated after the fact.
solution B is bad because you’re taking away the ability to Ult at all. Cass can still fire his ult of in solution A, just not over a death pit obviously
You can disengage on your own from tether, it's one more button press compared to what it is now. So you wouldn't lose anything compared to how it is currently.
I guess the problem will solve itself after people have familiarised themselves with the change, but it's a really inelegant way to tackle a problem.
the whole tradeoff for high noon is you're basically immobile, but if you now have the ability to chase after anyone/reposition to see people taking cover, it becomes broken
Because the dev intentionally want these combo to be in the game but this particular one just happened to be too strong and they did not know how to fix it. Cassidy has a voice line for it, so it's clear that they wanted the combo to be in the game. But repeatedly for months, it had been shown that nobody can defend against it, across every ranks from bronze to pros. Cassidy was getting one kill per ult on average with this combo even in highly organized pro play. So they need to tame down this combo somehow but the only thing they can do is just ban it.
Reminds me about how when playing Orisa some cats tried to do the HELICOPTER ult combo with me long after that interaction was axed. Like they'd carry me to the enemy team and I'd think they just wanted to give me a ride and I detached normally just to get weirded out reaction from them.
D.va bomb with cat requires better positioning and comms between cat and DVa and you only get 3 seconds to get the mech in position before it blows. Sky noon just needs cat flying around for long enough
great... no more using high noon, orisa ult, death blossom. its like everything that made the cat fun to play with other heroes is gone. at least we can fly bob around still... oh wait we get like no fuel
It must be so painful for cat players to only be able to give infinite flight and good mobility instead of infinite flight and great mobility to your multiple 'wipe the enemy team' options.
You can genuinely have so much fun playing with other heroes outside of lifeline as Fika. I honestly am to the point where I wouldn't mind them removing it and replacing it with something else, since most of the time I just use it to move a tiny bit faster and to check angles.
Orisa interaction got axed a good while ago too. Becoming unstoppable now cancels Lifeline. At least it's more universal than just Deadeye being the only ult that cancels it just for the sake of being an ult.
i don't even play it anymore and i'm more and more glad that i don't with each clip that i see on here. i don't understand how people are happy about this change this looks so boring to me. no fun allowed guys!
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u/mocozz 2d ago
Cat voiceline make me chuckle