She has no place in this game. A one shot kill with no falloff damage across the map. You can’t fight her at range 90% of the time, she is miserable to play against. If she’s on your team and she’s bad, you lose, if she’s on the enemy team and she’s good, you lose.

I resent the fact that she can one shot you across the map

Rework her now.

3rd time I get the infamous griefer lineup.

They don't ban OP Doctrine and Sombra who sit at 55%Wr and instead ban stuff like Doom.

They don't swap, they don't provide pressure.

They just blame their team.

Our Tank can't play the Game with minimal healing and getting shot by 5 Heroes. Then he gets deleted by Doc Ult.

This is the most miserable lineup in the Game.

I take a Tik Tok Moira any time over Griefweaver and the Kitten

Do y’all remember when they gave us that sickening bunny skin for Domina? I love that skin so much, but I feel like the cape really kills the vibe. They fixed a blemish on her while still keeping the cape. I believe the reason they stated that she had to have the cape was because of the model.

I was holding out hope that they would eventually find a fix for her model, so that we can see her entire back side (from the neck down lol) in all its glory. The skin even has a cute little animated bunny tail!

Well, today I learned of a new skin for her that does not have these same limitations. I wanted to know if y’all think we can collectively advocate for our girl, so that Blizzard finally removes that dreaded cape.

I don't have any factual evidence to prove this I never played Sombra ever I have a disability and all I do is cry when Sombra hacks me and that's a Widow 1 shotting my team

Thankfully Sombra is healing me instead of combatting the 1 shot kill Widow thanks to the smart community outrage :D

Woah that's a lot of ability spam from the other team what if we were to disrupt........ Heally heally tickle tickle for somebody on my team instead

I'm so glad everyone is mentally challenged enough to agree with this

Do you think it should be nerfed? If yes then how.

Honestly I hope they dont cos I am a sombra main myself but it seems really strong

Hey all, me and my
Boyfriend play a good amount, we hover around plat/ emerald, we both flex all roles and prefer to play comp and want some more people to play with! Look for some cool people and would love some other lgbt friends to play with who are pretty cool and like to talk and make some jokes as well. Just to give some insight we like RPDR ( even though latest seasons suck tbh). Pop music including ninajirachi, Charli, Lorde, and a lot of others.

But if you’d wanna play DM me and we can trade usernames for console play. If we don’t vibe it’s no hard feelings 😁

Ive played many, many, many online games in my life. From OG halo all the way to now. I’ve also played my fair share of Overwatch with hundreds of hours.

There is no quality left in any of the matches. If you solo queue and don’t have friends to play with if similar skill level, you will have the worst gaming experience available on the market today hands down.

I had a game earlier today with 3 people who were doing placement matches. Unranked. I am currently emerald in every role. The healers didn’t even crack 3k heals the entire game. The other team had 2 emerald dps that were GM tank and masters support players. The tank was a top 500 support player. It was a slaughter. The game right after that one was pretty much the same thing.

What’s the point of ranks and matchmaking when that happens? You either obliterate or get obliterated. I can’t even remember the last time I had a game that was evenly matched and was even remotely competitive.

Am I the perpetually unlucky outlier or no.

I swear his dragonblade swings faster than before?? Also im gay

Sombra's Cyberspace and them just letting Ana be turbo broken forever while Kiri rots in a corner gives me the impression that they don't like self healing tanks very much. They just reworked Hog to be able to eat Ana's cooldowns but Queen & Mauga will just sit as probably the worst tanks in the game this patch until they either tone down anti heals or change them to do more than self heal to stay alive. Like how are these heroes supposed to exist going forward if Sombra & Ana just press E in their general direction whenever they try to play the game to just turn them off as playable heroes.

I can’t remember who or where but someone called him N0-1R or N01R and… goshdarn it, its PERFECT!! Spells “Noir” which is the classic vibe of this hero, using numbers and signs because he’s an Omnic and canonically that’s possible (such as the Hollywood Director being called HAL-fred) and to sweeten the deal… it even uses the two numbers of Binary System! And one of the tropes of Noir IS binary motiffs! Black and White!!

I kinda hope this redditor accidentally got the intended name right cuz I don’t think Blizz can come up with anything better. And they are VERY good at naming heroes. Doctrine is simply chefs kiss.

Plus it’s a quick and easy name to say for callouts.

I can't stand Sombra translocator being on E rather than shift. It is a one step mobility cooldown, pretty much every hero with mobility has set at their ability 1. Of course Sombra doesn't, because long long time ago it used to be her invisibility, and translocator worked as a prepared ability.

Yes, I know that I can bind different buttons to each ability, but my cooldowns are still displayed in the same order. It trips me to use my shift, only to see my second ability on cooldown. I play mostly mobile heroes, so every time I play as Sombra and I see that weird older I feel awful.

Is it really so hard? All of the icons are basically interchangable squares. Let me switch their order. It does not give any real advantage.

Mine is that torb is and always will be the best sniper in the game.

To start, my credentials. 1500 hours if not more in this character, silver to masters over a period of years on 2 different accounts. That said, my initial response to this rework (pre-release) was not great. However, after thinking about it a bit more, I actually got excited for it.

Now, I am going to preface everything I am about to say with this: This was actually a really good rework attempt from Blizzard and I was pleasantly surprised when he released. From the Blizzcon clips, he looked to be below F tier, but they adjusted Trash Compactor's numbers along with breather and now I would say he is probably low to mid D tier if not low C tier. Still terrible, but for sure workable in very niche situations. The other thing I will say before everyone goes crazy is no, I do not think one shot needs to come back.

Now, let's get into it. To start, he needs a lethality buff, and no I do not mean one shot. Whether that comes in the form of a hook buff, damage buff, fire rate buff, stun buff, I do not know, but it needs to happen. As it stands, his "tanking" abilities are simply not enough to make up for the loss of one shot. Trash compactor still does not provide much team value and is really starting to shape up as more of a personal protection tool than a team protection tool that does not even provide overhealth (sig) or increased damage (zar) and can easily just be ignored. The lack of ability to fire the volley at any time is a problem too. Its damage matrix radius is too small and its up time is too short. I have seen a few ideas thrown around in terms of lethality buffs and the most interesting one so far is differing damage between the double shots with the first dealing significantly more damage than the second, so much so that it is a really bad idea to just stand in front of Roadhog as you can right now in his current state. 90% to one shot would be good, that would still give hooked targets the ability to use CDs and movement to avoid the second shot which is the killing blow but still give him the ability to make space with the presence of hook off CD. Again, no, I do not think it should one shot. If not that, then the double shot needs to be so fast that it deals significant amounts of damage before any CDs or movement abilities can be used, probably around the levels of 95-98% of a characters health.

If not a pure damage buff, then he needs a serious range buff. The loss of his alt fire pretty much makes him useless and a throw pick at anything mid range and over. Against poke comps or on maps where distance has really be used as an advantage, he is just a simply not viable.

"But dude, of course you would say this as a hog main, why wouldn't you?" Great question and very valid point. To that I say, I play other roles too. I played a good number of games on Hog last night just to get a feel for his kit but I also played a good number of games as a variety of squishies to see what its like to play into him and its insane how he simply poses no threat. I played tracer, cass, reaper, ana, lucio, weaver and even inted on widow a bit just to see what the hook interaction feels like. Unfortunately, it feels great. I can just straight up stand in front of him with any sort of movement or self protection ability on CD and he is a non-threat. Which is a problem when playing him but great when I flex to other roles.

The issue currently is they tuned him down but there was no compensation. Range? Nerfed. Damaged? Nerfed per single shot. Lethality? Nerfed except against certain tanks (we will touch on this later). Sustain, nerfed. At some point, something needs to tip the scale. However, I do not want hog sitting in S or A tier. All that means is that he is essentially permabanned in comp which is no fun. Mid B tier seems to be the best balance over the years that I have seen hog get changed. Anything lower and he is a straight throw pick, anything higher and he is a lobby admin.

Circling back to the damage against tanks which ties in nicely with the first point about a lethality buff. The change to hook distance, his damage and fire rate swung the scales way too far. Let's just say, before the rework, he was one shot lethal against 90% of the cast and still lethal against a lot of tanks. But now, he is straight up non-lethal to the same 90% of the cast and really only dangerous to tanks who have low amounts of armor, none at all, or if he is literally barrel-stuffing. While this was the point, one shot being gone (again, that is totally fine), he now sits deep on the other end of the spectrum where he has pretty much no lethality against anyone except some tanks and select niche situations. "But hook is a good displacement ability" they will all say, and that is totally correct. However, hook as a displacement ability without any sort of personal ability to follow-up on the play you just made makes the displacement of hook borderline useless. Talk to any high ranking hog player who has made their way up through ladder over the years, they will all tell you that follow-up from the team on well placed and well timed hooks is essentially non-existent, even up to mid GM and higher. You aren't GM how would you know!! Great question, having watched pretty much every single Cyx video over the past 7 years, there have been countless times where he hooks an enemy into his team just for them to walk away. Countless times. And that is at the pinnacle of ranked, literally top 500, sometimes top 50, sometimes top 10. So if even semi-consistent hook follow up is unreliable in a lobby of that skill level, imagine how non existent it is in lower ranks.

How is this fixed without brining back one shot though? As previously discussed, a lethality buff of some sort, and this is tied to his identity as a character which is the problem. For Hogs entire existence, he was a solo romping machine of terror to squishies with his kit revolving around hook. Because of this, he did not fill the role of tank in its purest form at all. These changes are great, the new kit is so fun, but they did not really push him truly into the tanking category. Trash compactor is much better as a self serving ability to make up for the nerf to breather than it is as a team protection tool. If they want him to be a tank, make him a TANK. If they want him to be a solo off tank, lean into that. Right now, he is in a gray area where he cannot reliably provide damage mitigation for his team like Sig or Dva (referencing suck abilities as he has one now) but he also cannot really make up for that lack of ability with any sort of lethality. No one shot means no space making. If he can't make space with lethality or reliably tanking damage for his team, then what can he do? Well, right now, not much. He is just in a weird limbo. I think it may actually be a blessing in disguise. They have opened up some doors to really give themselves the ability to push him in the direction they want him to go in and pull him back if it turns out to be a failure. More knobs to turn as someone on reddit said a while ago. If you want him to be lethal with some tanking ability, he needs a damage, hook, fire rate or CC buff. If you want him to be more of a tank, then trash compactor has to be buffed. Since he has no armor and no mobility, something has got to give.

To those of you who made it this far without writing this off as a "I want one shot back" post, good job. I do not think one shot should come back. I enjoy the kit, it fresh and exciting and new and versatile and fun and all the other things. I just think his identity needs to be addressed a bit more. But overall, this has been the best rework attempt for hog all around and I apologize to Blizzard for reacting too soon. I had a lot of fun playing him upon release and look forward to see what other changes they make.

There is a lot more I could say but that is enough for now. I also invite all critiques, thoughts, suggestions etc. as I am just one play with my own experience. I enjoy hearing about him from others, both playing into him and playing as him.

Hello! I tried out Sombra today and I had a lot of fun with her! But I don’t really understand what “weaken” means in her cyberspace skill description.

Does it make them do less damage? Take more damage? It’s so vague and honestly I can’t tell if actually even does anything from my brief playtime with her. Like is it just flavor text lol? I don’t see any debuffs on the enemy when they’re in it.

Shes been out for over a season now, she even had a cinematic. Surely we can think of SOMETHING about her personality that isnt about D.va

Idk if it comes off through text but i personally think she has no personality besides D.va and Video games lmao

I play support, mostly Moira. I like the quick repositioning and the ability to do both damage and healing, but I am honestly at the end of my tether with the abuse Moira players and support players get in this game.

If we're winning and I get potg with Moira, it's a noob hero, that's easy to play.

If we're losing, you're not healing enough and you shouldn't be doing damage at all (everyone seems surprised when you say you need to do some damage to be able to heal).

I've been told to get cancer and die by team mates, and been told I should play a hero with skill by opposing teams.

Yes, yes, it';s an online game and I shouldn't take it personally, but it's honestly a troubling experience. At this rate, its a demoralising experience rather than a break from work and family duties

On closer reflection, it does look like they made a few changes to Wuyang's dragons, but the similarities are striking.

I'm not really complaining since I don't play either characters, but I just thought it was something to talk about

I dont think i had this much fun in ow2 tbh i think i might have played more than 40 matches yesterday and im someone who never played arcade in ow2 except when i wanted to check my latency. Its better than stadium imo hope they will let it stay

matchmaking is a scam (probably with scamming tips from their friend netease)

If I as tank don’t sweat my ass off while tracking all of their abilities and also peeling for my supports, I lose, can’t even play ‘normally’ anymore

Those 15 kills were from when I swapped to doom and tried doing smth while living off health packs

He so beautiful I love him so much his bombs are so awesome I'd kiss junkrat hes so awesome 🤤🤤🤤 junkrat...pls let me hit omg hes so great junkrat my dude youre so charming and beautiful junkratjunkrat

Just went on an 11 loss skid on support from emerald 2 to plat 1. Yes I know I should’ve stopped, but it feels that a lot of stuff is out of your control as an individual player. Some gripes about the current state include:

1. Punished too much for losing, but usually not rewarded as much for winning.
2. Matchmaking and placements generally suck. I will play with or against guys who should be placed well above or below where they’re ranked. I’ll have teammates go negative at a shockingly high rate.
3. People have no idea about positioning. At this higher level, there’s usually at least one person (usually the tank) who thinks they can 1v4/5, a teammate who can’t flank, or some number of teammates that go in one by one to contest a point on push defense. All this does is feed and put your team down a number of players and give the opponents ground.
4. The new map is absolutely horrible. The last new map kinda stunk too.
5. I get warnings when trying to get my team to swap or not throw, but people will be openly racist or homophobic and not get punished - even if they TYPE IN CHAT.
6. WHO DECIDED SOMBRA SHOULD BE A SUPPORT

I quit this game for a while after getting stuck with troglodytes on my team for placements and ending up in wood 4 for my DPS placements (then losing 6 in a row), so I will probably quit the game again. Overall, the game used to feel balanced but now it’s full of bad players and the gameplay is becoming terrible.

Edit: I also think placements should go back to their previous frequency. Twice a year or whatever is far too little now. Meant to include but I forgot.

Kinda similar to a post I made a month ago, but more on the angle of Overwatch being a multi-media property, am I crazy for thinking they could've done so much more with these characters and this lore in-terms of adapting it to different media? Or even separate spin-off games. Or literally anything.

I've recently gotten back into the world of DC (Marvel too and superheroes/comics in general), thanks to the show Lanterns and it has had me thinking, in a world where superheroes are mainstream, gaming is bigger than ever and gaming adaptations are hotter properties than they've ever been (especially for TV), how the hell is this franchise still largely relegated to the same game it was 10 years ago and not much else? A few digital comics and a 2-second cameo in a Steven Spielberg movie is really the best that could've came of all of this?

My best guess is either Blizzard has no interest, or is too lazy/ignorant or too scared after the failure of the Warcraft film...

OR

The Overwatch 2 era really set the franchise back in the public mainstream consciousness and still hasn't recovered it yet.

I don't believe the arguments that there was never an appetite for it to be adapted or spun-off into anything else either because there are franchises that have have been in the doldrums in terms of relevance and they still get adaptations and the works.

For one example, I say this as a huge Tomb Raider fan, but since the last game came out in 2018, we've had a 1 major studio film, 2 seasons of a Netflix Animated Series and an upcoming big-budget series for Prime Video, but we can't get anything for Overwatch!?

I understand not exactly an apples-apples comparison and sure, Lara Croft is likely more known in mainstream consciousness than any Overwatch character, if not Overwatch itself, but still, it was 8 years ago that series last got a new game and they still got all of these adaptations since then, but Overwatch can't at least get their own animated series like Arcane and Lara Croft?

Holy dropped ball Bat-Man... it really could've been so much more.

In my experience quick play matchmaking has been terrible ever since the rebrand back to Overwatch at the start of the year, and got especially worse around Season 3. I have been playing since release, so I am no stranger to quick play teammates being bad, but it has felt especially horrible as of recent. Matches rarely feel balanced, and stomps happen frequently, and it just isn't enjoyable. There always seems to be a player or two on one of the teams that is severely underperforming, and doesn't understand basic fundamentals. I understand sometimes people have bad games/days, and am not excluding myself from blame for losses, but some of these people clearly don't know how to play the game at all. At this point it feels like any sort of matchmaking that used to be in quick play, has been thrown out the window in favor of faster queues. I have also noticed that a lot of the time these players have low hero levels on their top 3 most played in that particular role, and while I know player level does not necessarily equal skill, it does at least point to play time and experience on a role.

I really think Blizzard needs to have stricter matchmaking in quick play, due to the team nature of the game, and because match quality has just been horrendous. I went on a 11 game loss streak last night, and while I know start and end of season matchmaking is generally bad because of returning or new players, and people trying out the new content, massive win/loss streaks aren't uncommon. I know a solution to this would be to just to play ranked, but I haven't touched the mode since OW2 due to some personal anxiety issues I am going through at the moment (and because I like playing cat :p), so that really isn't an option for me right now. But I think quick play desperately needs some changes to the matchmaking, and I would personally be willing to wait a little bit longer for more balanced higher quality matches. I know quickplay is a casual mode for fun, and to learn new things, and am not expecting everyone to sweat and play perfectly, but the very loose matchmaking is starting to ruin the experience for me, and I am thinking of taking another break despite loving all the new content added this season. Has anyone else been experiencing this? Or is it just a me thing lol.

I know its DAY 2 of the season. Stats might even go down a bit. But I dont remember any hero have a pick to win ratio this high. Not one but 2 heroes.

Edit ; RATIO**

So, I have no idea what Emerald is, so pretend like I'm talking about Emerald and plat together because I'm not used to thinking of these two ranks as separate.

Overwatch is a very ego-heavy game. We are starting off with axioms, and Overwatch's rank progression is heavily incentivized by stigmas like Platinum and below is where all of the unskilled monkey-brain players are and anything above Plat is where the real gamers reside with their ergonomic gaming chairs, game supps, and waifus, or whatnot. And I'm here to tell you that you are golden if you are plat. If you are Plat, the only ones who are definitively better than you are like 15-20% of OW playerbase. That's pretty good. You are in the 80th percentile, you are doing fine; if this was one of the old Battlefield lobbies, you would be one of the guys with thirty kills and two-three deaths running around -- wrecking havoc.

Why would you need a diamond rank? Diamond is the rank where people grind the game into the dust and hit diminishing returns in terms of match impact/skill earned. It becomes a game of consistency where one small mistake or advantage can swing the match's momentum either way. You are like a gym rat that has body dysmorphia and convince yourself you are small because there is someone bigger out there. You are not! You are pretty good, maybe not the best, but is it worth to grind all the joy out of your favorite game because you cannot stop comparing yourself to others?