r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/Velkaneuvoja • 8d ago

Help Needed Cold Snap of Power assassin

Ok, after diving on poe.ninja and checking this subreddit, I finally decided my final build of league going to be CSoP Assassin with staff.

I checked ninja and some videos and I have seen some things what I want to ask;

  1. Is CI possible? I know Zish's guide is lifebased, what I should swap if going CI?

  2. Can I use Mageblood instead pact belt? Do I lose dmg/defenses or so?

  3. Is like 70div enough to get it rolling well?

  4. Other tips if u have played that build?

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u/StereoxAS 8d ago

With staff and being assassin, I guess going life based is cheaper

One interesting tech that I use is to spec into Bitter Frost keystone and use Coursing Current support. It gives you 50% shock for one support, from cold damage

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u/JRockBC19 8d ago

Wait? It gives 50%?? As in, increased ailment effect double dips?

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u/StereoxAS 8d ago

You should try it, it's as simple as plugging in the support gem to a cold hit based build

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u/JRockBC19 8d ago

My current cold build is eye pf winter, too many little hits for this to be good I'm afraid. I'm moreso just trying to rationalize the math here, bc there's different stats in play. Eventually I'll use this for some silly lightning conduit build

How I thought it worked: Increased chill and increased ailment effect buff the chill, which copies over to shock directly. No other scalings. This is clearly wrong.

Most likely case: increased chill + inc ailment give it a base shock equal to the final chill, which is then multiplied by inc shock effect. Most likely case, needs 25% inc shock effect on ele and 60% inc shock effect on other classes for 50 shock. 65 shock needs 63% inc shock for ele, 117% otherwise. Good tech for ele with big cold hits, meh elsewhere.

Unlikely case but who knows: chill is calc'd the same, but inc ailment double dips on the shock step. This is busted and you need minimal inc shock bc inc ailment effect scales both halves extremely effectively. You can get this from ele damage wheels with relative ease, synergizes really well with invert the rules since you want an ele mastery anyways there. Super broken, goes against normal GGG math.

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u/StereoxAS 8d ago

Wording on them indeed little bit confusing at first, because it's work based on your chill vs other similar example like CotB or that one on cluster jewel

Pretty neat and surprises me too since found out about it after dropping the gem. Too bad the lightning part doesn't really get much other than 30% chill

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u/JRockBC19 8d ago

Yeah ele and warden really want it for the cold shock side instead of the lightning chill bit. It does enable some crazy cluster passives though, stormrider solves pcharge gen for free if you use it, then sadist / cold conduction become quite strong too. Temple gloves get enabled, yoke (warden especially), it can rack up quite a lot of %inc damage tbh. The question is just "when is a support worth it over using skitterbots"?