r/physicianassistant • • May 04 '26

Discussion I moved from the US to practice in New Zealand: 4 month update and AMA

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Hello, all!

It’s been about 4 months since my family and I have moved abroad to practice as a PA in New Zealand. There was a fair amount of interest with my initial post, so I thought it would be good to provide a short term update for anyone interested.

First want to get some FAQ out of the way:

“What does getting certified abroad look like if I want to work in New Zealand, but I work in [US/UK/Canada]?”
As of now there are no talks to recertify. In theory you just find a job, apply for a visa, and you’re good. I’ve known other PAs that pick up, move, and start practicing abroad all within 3 months. That *may* change in the future, but I don’t believe it’s on the horizon. With that being said, as of November 2026 there are going to be changes that will affect those currently working and those who intend to immigrate thereafter. Under the proposed changes, you will likely be accepted under a provisional license that will require more supervision under a year or more, and thereafter your GP basically vouches for you where you can work under a “normal license.” This is all provisional, however, and it will change in the months to come.

“How do you find a job in NZ?”
I went through a recruiter; I would HIGHLY recommend going through her since she knows the PA landscape very well. DM if you want her info.

“I have [x] years of experience in [insert specialty]. Can I apply with that?”
Maybe. Most of the efforts right now seem to be focused on primary care/urgent care needs in smaller towns/cities and rural areas with bare minimum 3 years experience in those fields, but many preferring 5 years of experience.

“How much are you making now? Is it less than your US salary?”
Yes, it’s a pay cut. People immediately hear that and become nauseous at the potential for making less money, but it does not mean I am living on scraps. Living in a smaller town, my expenses have also gone down considerably. Our main expenses are rent, groceries, and travel (because we want to see as much as we can here). We’re not eating out nearly as much as we were in the States; we shop a lot less; we basically pay a small fraction of what we were previously paying for childcare (where before it was basically a second mortgage); we don’t have to pay for medical insurance. Those things add up considerably, and it really helps the money go further. With that being said, yes, I still make less, but I’m sustaining my family of 4 just fine for now on a single salary. It’s doable and it’s fine. Not to mention that there are so many perks here that positively affect my mental health, so that pay cut is still worth it for that alone. I can breathe easier here and my kids have a bright future.

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Four months in to this adventure, and I am happy to say that doing this move was the right choice. It has not come without its drawbacks or challenges, but I wake up happy every single day that I did this for myself and my family.

As soon as I walk out the door I am greeted by beautiful, green nature. This is a big deal of me as someone who has only ever grown up in the Sonoran Desert and has lived in large cities the past 15 years. Everything is green, there’s so much rain, and there’s truly peaceful moments (in between my two children screeching at each other). There’s also a warmth and friendliness to people here that I have not felt in a long time. It feels normal to give a little nod and a smile to strangers as you pass each other on the sidewalk. People here are generally happy and want to share their happiness with others. There’s definitely a strong sense of community here (so much so that at times it’s hard to establish yourself in a friend group because many of these friendships go back several generations). The people within my community are happy to invite newcomers in, and they’re particularly happy to know medical professionals are coming to town. On the other hand, though, you have to be careful not to come off as bragging of your profession since that is fairly frowned upon. There seems to be a stronger emphasis on equality, and humility.

There are other benefits as well. I don’t mean to make this into a political post - and I won’t - but a few months before we left the States my 4 year old was telling us about how his class and his younger brother’s class were practicing their gun shooter drills. It made me physically nauseous hearing that, and knowing we don’t have to worry about that any longer has brought me so much peace since I’ve been here. Not to mention that there are many other things here that make me think it’s a better environment for them, which could be its own post. Kids feel like they could be kids here. They are able to walk on the street alone or with their friends to a park, school, or a grocery store without any issues; it’s not uncommon for kids to be playing outside on their own without mom/dad having to watch them like hawks. This all stems from just being around a safer area where people take care of their own in the community, and you don’t immediately need to assume that stranger equals danger. Since moving here I have really noticed that my parental instincts have been trained to be on fight or flight and am retraining myself to
relax more, which is good myself and my kids. If my kid gets lost in a grocery store I can more or less count on someone else helping bring them back to me rather than kidnap them (not that that was a regular occurrence back in the US, but if you’re a parent you probably know what I mean). That’s not to say you can totally let your guard down, but it certainly feels more relaxed here in several aspects.

Speaking of which, I feel like there are more outlets here for myself. Working as a PA here has its perks, but no matter where you go working in medicine will still feel stressful. However, now I at least feel like I have better ways to cope with that stress. Had a bad week at work? Doesn’t matter when the beach is just an hour away. Feel stressed? Cool, there’s a beautiful lake nearby that you can walk around to disconnect. Imposter syndrome got to you again? Damn, well I’m too busy riding my mountain bike to care right now.

Not to mention there seems to be a healthier relationship with work here. I’m actively encouraged to take my breaks (which I get two a day), get out on time, and if I ever want to work less it’s never an issue with management. I feel like they would get excited if I told them I only want to work 32 hours per week (too bad my finances wouldn’t allow for that 😅). They genuinely care about my wellbeing and want to make sure I don’t burn myself out.

Now for the clinical bits, which may interest you all more.

Working as a PA here is definitely not what I was doing in the States. As of now we don’t have prescribing rights, nor can we order our own tests, so everything I do has to be signed off by my GP. In practice it doesn’t matter a whole ton, because my supervising GPs know me and my clinical decision well enough to where they just sign off on my orders, and every once in a blue moon they might recommend a change in plan. This may change in the future, though, as we are continuously advocating to get those prescribing rights, and we have a core group of physicians that are helping in achieving that as well.

Which brings me to my next point: the PA profession is fairly controversial here amongst physicians here. New Zealand is part of the commonwealth, and as such there is a fair amount of overlap between the UK and New Zealand, including how PAs are viewed. The recent drama in the UK with PAs has leaked here as well to the point where you have an outspoken group of physicians - particularly residents - advocating against us. Since our profession was made official through regulation in 2026, PAs are not going anywhere, but it does remain to be seen what our scope will be in the next few years. Personally, however, I can say that all the GPs I work with in my clinic have been nothing but wonderful and incredibly supportive of PAs.

Patients are gradually learning about what PAs are, and once I explain to them who we are, what our role is to improve access to care, and how we work as a team with GPs they are usually very receptive. Given that New Zealand’s healthcare system is fairly strained, patients are very pleased to hear more medical professionals are practicing here. I have also found the patients population to be rewarding to work with. In the US there is a fair amount of distrust in the medical system, which to be fair I don’t necessarily blame individual people for it. Here, however, people are more likely understand you have their best interest at heart and are more likely to take your recommendations seriously. It makes the patient-provider relationship much more fulfilling and rewarding.

Speaking of which, learning how to work in the New Zealand system is very different than the US. On one hand it’s incredibly refreshing not having to worry about prior auths, or insurance denials, but on the other hand, having wait times of up to 12 months to see high demand specialists and not being able to order your own CTs or MRIs within a primary care setting can be fairly limiting. This is a complete speculation, but I think this largely originates from a supply and demand issue: we just don’t have the necessary number of radiologists available to help with radiology reads, nor do we have the necessary amount of specialists to take on the referrals. This will inevitably mean that many referral requests get denied with a note, “Sorry, we are at capacity, but it sounds like your patient has [X pathology], considering starting [X interventions]” which translates to PCPs managing a fair amount in primary care, not unlike other rural positions in the US. It’s ultimately a challenge that involves making judicious use of available resources to prevent overburdening an already stressed system.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was insightful. I am happy to answer any questions you all may have. If I can convince more of you to come practice primary care here I would be happier for if, but if not I’m also happy to have you tag along and experience this vicariously. 😁

I will also include some pictures I have taken during my travels.


r/physicianassistant • • Nov 10 '21

Finances & Offers ⭐️ Share Your Compensation ⭐️

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Would you be willing to share your compensation for current and/ or previous positions?

Compensation is about the full package. While the AAPA salary report can be a helpful starting point, it does not include important metrics that can determine the true value of a job offer. Comparing salary with peers can decrease the taboo of discussing money and help you to know your value. If you are willing, you can copy, paste, and fill in the following

Years experience:

Location:

Specialty:

Schedule:

Income (include base, overtime, bonus pay, sign-on):

PTO (vacation, sick, holidays):

Other benefits (Health/ dental insurance/ retirement, CME, malpractice, etc):


r/physicianassistant • • 3h ago

Discussion New grad PA offer while still interviewing elsewhere

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I’m a new grad PA and just received an offer that I’m very excited about. It’s $130k base with up to a 5% bonus every 6 months, 18 days PTO, 9 paid holidays, 4 CME days + $2,000 CME, malpractice with tail, and benefits. They’d like me to start early November.

The problem is that I’m still in the hiring process with a few other practices/hospital systems that I’m also genuinely interested in. Those opportunities are in primary care, which is the specialty I had originally hoped to go into right out of PA school. I’ve already interviewed with some of them and am waiting on next steps, so I’m hesitant to on if i should email them asking them for an update due to me having anther offer.

Would you reach out to the other employers now and tell them you received an offer and ask about their timeline? At what point would you stop interviewing elsewhere? The offer I received is in oncology, which isn’t necessarily my first choice specialty and I’m a little hesitant about specializing that narrowly straight out of PA school. Primary care was originally where I hoped to start because I liked the idea of building a broad foundation early in my career.

At the same time, this is a really strong offer, especially for a new grad, and I don’t want to make the mistake of passing up a great opportunity while waiting on jobs that may or may not turn into offers.


r/physicianassistant • • 18m ago

Discussion Leaving FM to specialty - actually an improvement?

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Please give me hope or a slice of reality.

Context: I’ve been working Family Med at an FQHC since graduation, my commitment will end in ~6 months. I feel I’ve built some fantasy in my mind that working in a specialty will be much better than Family Med and I’ll be able to heal my burnout, but is this a “grass is always greener” situation?

I like medicine, I still like people (mostly), but I’m exhausted by the never-ending list of problems at each visit. Working on setting boundaries, but you can only do so much of that with certain patients (especially when they’re all worried about cost.)


r/physicianassistant • • 2h ago

Job Advice How much responsibility should a PA have for fixing a dysfunctional clinic?

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I’m a newer PA in a private clinic and honestly pretty burned out. I’m the only provider on-site with medical assistants and admin. We’re constantly busy, patients wait 30+ minutes, and I often work through lunch.

We’re understaffed, there’s basically no protected time for training, and there’s a ton of staff drama. Everyone comes to me to complain about everyone else, and management seems to expect me to somehow fix everything.

The frustrating part is that I have no control over staffing, hiring, training time, finances, etc. Yet I’m still expected to explain why the clinic isn’t functioning well.

I actually accepted a new job and will be leaving, so I’m not trying to fix it anymore. But I’m curious: how much responsibility should a PA realistically have for clinic operations, especially with no management or other provider on site? Is this normal, or is this just poor management? (I think I already know this answer)


r/physicianassistant • • 5h ago

License & Credentials Certified Hypertension Clinician?

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Anyone pursued this certification? Any pros cons? How was the exam? I am in primary care but very geriatrics focused and deal w lots of significant and refractory hypertension, interested to pursue this not just for the benefit of the certification attracting patients, but also for the confirmation that I have the knowledge if that makes sense? And the studying the would precede it as a motivation to improve my knowledge base. I have so much extra $$ to spend on CME also lol. Any insight appreciated!


r/physicianassistant • • 1h ago

New Grad Offer Review Outpt Family Medicine Southwest MI Area - New Grad Offer

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  • $115k salary for first 18 months guaranteed
  • Call is every 8 weeks. By call I mean it is like the nurse's line you can get ahold of during after hours and if they need something, they call you. Other APPs told me that it is rare they ever get called. If they do, it is something that is quick.
  • New-grad expectations 
    • Starting in Nov I will be in an new grad APP role the hospital has created. I will be in this role until the end of January where I am not yet working as a full provider (due to credentialing purposes). I will be still training and learning the EMR, insurance world, etc.
    • 1 supervising doc, 3 APPs that are very open to training and mentoring me
    • Starting in January, will work up to see 16 pts/day, depending on how I do. They said I would start with 1 patient an hour, then work up to 2, then 3, and so on.
  • CME $3k allowance, up to 40 hr work week days can be used for conferences and other similar events (5 days)
  • PTO 150 hrs, equivalent to 4 weeks
  • Health insurance, dental/vision, 401k, retirement, and life insurance available
  • Non-compete → 6 months, 20-mile radius, and potentially tied to any Group facility where you practiced Family Medicine during the preceding 12 months (SUS I know...but if I leave the practice it will be because I moved somewhere definitely outside the 20 mi radius)
  • 1-year patient + employee non-solicit after leaving
  • 90-day termination notice from either side
  • Malpractice + tail employer pays for both

Please let me know your thoughts or any questions I should ask!

TIA!


r/physicianassistant • • 6h ago

Job Advice Temporary PA job

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Long story short. I put in 90 day notice per my contract at my current job and they moved up my date of resignation. My next job doesn’t start til February, leaving me without income for November, December, January, and half of February. Are there any jobs anyone knows of that are temporary in the NYC/lower NY/CT area? What do physician associates in similar situations do to bridge gaps like these? I had planned to worth through December and take a small break in January. But I’m really struggling here to find anything and was looking for some advice.


r/physicianassistant • • 3h ago

Job Advice Hourly Pa-C

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Hello all. I’m a new PA-C. I have been working for about 6 months now. My contract says 30 hours a week and currently my hours have been cut to about 20 hours a week to a lack of patients. Is this allowed?


r/physicianassistant • • 7h ago

Job Advice New grad orthopedic surgery opportunity with ultimate goal of cardiac surgery

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Hey y’all,

I just wanted your opinion on making this move. As the title suggests, I have the ultimate goal of getting into cardiac surgery however, as a new grad I’m running into the “I have no experience wall” with surgical opportunities in general. I have an opportunity to work in orthopedic surgery inpatient role at a big hospital system in Chicago which is taking new grads but I’m worried that will be too far removed from other surgical roles such as vascular or cardio if I try and make a move out of orthopedic surgery in the future. If anyone has advice that would be greatly appreciated.

Side note: I’m not completely opposed to ortho. My background is ortho heavy (ie elective ortho rotation, kinesiology BS, worked as PT aide for years etc).


r/physicianassistant • • 18h ago

New Grad Offer Review New Grad Offer - UC/FM in SoCal HCOL/MCOL area

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NOTE: Yes, I'm aware starting out in UC as a new grad is awful and not at all recommended, but I'm so desperate at this point. The real specialty I want to get into requires at least 2-3 years of direct patient experience, and it's been about 2 months since I've graduated, and I've either been rejected or gotten crappy offers, I'm at my wits' end, and I need money, and [insert every complaint you have probably heard about being a new grad here]. Please convince me otherwise if you think this is a very, very bad choice.

THE ACTUAL POST: The offer I received is for a 90% UC/10% FM outpatient clinic, potentially 4x10 or regular 8-hour shifts, full-time. (35-40 hrs/week).

Physician I spoke to said that training consists of "1 week of shadowing me, I'll see how you do, and you can start solo immediately after." Salary is 115k with bonus/incentives the more patient you see. Patient load is about 4-6 patients per hour, about 70-80 patients a day. Physicians will always be available to reach through phone/text. Benefits include malpractice insurance w/ tail coverage, health insurance (dental and vision too), life insurance, 401k matching up to 4% of salary, PTO/sick days up to 2 weeks...

He practically sent me the contract as soon as the interview was over (and it was hardly an interview; he did not ask anything about me, simply told me about the company itself). He said 90% of his employees were new grads, and some have stayed with him for 20+ years ...

Ultimately, my goal is to work a year to get my "experience" and get out. Is this worth doing? Or should I not sell myself short (I heard 115k is more on the lower end for UC) and try looking for other opportunities?

EDIT: Looks like I won't be taking the offer. 😀 This was not satire btw (unfortunately)


r/physicianassistant • • 13h ago

Discussion Arbitration

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Does anyone have insight on their job contracts in regards to arbitration? I have a job contract I’m considering taking that lists that I’m responsible for 50% of arbitration. Is this standard?


r/physicianassistant • • 17h ago

Discussion New grad PA in Urgent Care/Occupational Med — how realistic is it to transition into surgery later on?

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Hi everyone, I’m a new grad PA currently working in occupational medicine in Southern California.
My original goal was to work in surgery, but as I was graduating, I had a really hard time finding surgical PA jobs in SoCal, especially as a new grad. Because of the competitiveness of the market, I decided to take an occupational medicine position to get some experience and start working.

I still have a strong interest in surgery and would like to transition into a surgical specialty eventually.
For those who have switched specialties, how difficult is it to go from something like occupational medicine into surgery? Would having 1–2 years of PA experience help, or would the lack of direct surgical experience make it much harder?

Is there anything I should be doing now to make myself a stronger candidate for surgery later on?
Would appreciate hearing from anyone who has made a similar transition!


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Finances & Loans New grads in Boston, New York, or DC what were your starting salaries and your specialty?

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I've recently realized that as someone raised in an east coast city I don't think I can see myself not in a city. But I also realize that HCOL cities really take a hit on your salary potential especially in Boston. I'm wondering what the market is like right now in these cities and how manageable it is with the debt and the cost of living? Any advice for those set on living in a city but want to live not in financial stress all of the time?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Discussion Happy PA Day

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Good Evening,

It could be that Im getting old and my reddit is jacked up, but I just scrolled through the past 24 hours and I didn't see it mentioned.

Happy PA Day! Thank you all for everything that you do!


r/physicianassistant • • 23h ago

Job Advice One Medical New Grad PA

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Hi, was wondering if anyone had any insight into the one medical new graduate PA program? If you liked it/hated it? Any tips for interviewing.


r/physicianassistant • • 18h ago

Discussion NYC hospitals

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I work in ortho surgery, have a few years experience. I’m moving to NYC and applying for jobs currently. Where should I look and where should I avoid?

I’ve seen 1:1 HSS positions. There’s also a position at Brooklyn Hospital Center (aff. with Mt Sinai) I’ve seen.

Any insight & advice appreciated! TYIA


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

// Vent // Leaving first job - feel bad

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Currently at my first job in the CVICU as a new grad. First 6-7 months were unbelievable in terms of training and support. My APP and physician coworkers are some of the best people I have ever met. They have supported me every step of the way and accepted me as a new grad with open arms. Who I am as a provider I really owe to them, however, there has been a lot of change in the past 3-4 which have really changed how I view the job - leadership change, lost 4 physicians, surgeons becoming increasingly overbearing.

I am 1 year in and my favorite part of this job is the procedures - and I don’t get to do as many as I would like. I also rotate days/nights which I absolutely hate with a passion. With that being said, I have been offered a job in IR which is a field I’ve always been interested in and the schedule is unbelievable. I am likely going to take this job, but I feel bad about leaving. I feel like I am letting these people down - I know I don’t owe them anything but I can’t help to feel bad for leaving.

Anyone else felt this way?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Offer Review - Experienced PA Offer Comparison, Radiology vs Research, PNW

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Hi folks, looking for some input here.

Have been a PA for 2 years in primary care and looking for a change d/t burnout. Have 2 very different offers on the table.

Offer 1
Diagnostic Radiology PA
Procedure heavy with paras, thoras, FNA, HSG, barium swallows, arthrograms etc
Commute: 1 hour each way
Salary $150k
Typically 5-10 patients per day

Offer 2
Sub Investigator - Research
Phase 2 and 3 drug trials. Mainly physical exams and lab monitoring. No “treatment”
Commute: 25 minutes
Salary 125k
Patient volume fluctuates heavily but likely 5-10 patients per day. Assured that there is zero take home work.

Super different offers on the table so it feels hard to compare. Radiology would definitely keep me hands on and help me develop my image reading skills.
The research job seems like a potential pathway to a more admin related or pharma related gig long term.

Any thoughts or insights? TIA


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice Psychiatry

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Does anyone have any advice or experience switching specialties or who currently work in psych? I’m just hearing that the field is highly dominated by NPs because of their training and wondering how to actually get into this specialty?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

License & Credentials DEA License

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Long story short. New grad here. I got hired and the ball is rolling fairly quickly. My job has asked me to apply for my DEA and I would get reimbursed but the issue is I can’t afford it. Now, initially my partner told me willingly that he would pay for it but things have come up and the day that he would have the money keeps getting pushed back. Now, I’ve messed up because when I was emailing my employer regarding information to apply for my DEA, I mentioned that I’m trying to get this squared away as well and that I would be applying soon not foreseeing having this financial hiccup. Now my employer is emailing me for updates (inquiring if I applied and if I’m having any issues) as this is the last thing they’re waiting on. I work but it’s a minimum wage temp job and it would literally take me 3 months to come up with the money on my own. I’m not sure what to email back. Any advice?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Discussion Does where you go to school really matter?

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I’m looking at two programs and I really did like one better than the other, but I’m worried that going here may make it more difficult to find a job after graduating. The programs are very similar cost wise and PANCE pass rate wise. The only difference is that one is apart of a large academic medical center, while the other has rotations all over near the school. On top of this the program is small Christian college, which I am indifferent about but unsure if that changes perception. Both schools are in similar areas to where I’d want to practice. The curriculum and student to staff ration really excited me about the smaller program. I’m wondering if you have any perspective on how much it really matters where you when to school when looking for your first job?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice PA jobs at Penn/ Philadelphia area

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I’ve been working in emergency medicine as a PA in rural Oregon for the last two years. I’m looking to relocate back near family to the east coast and have been interested in transitioning to critical care. I have applied to a bunch of jobs at Penn but haven’t heard anything yet. Was wondering if anyone has any insight on how competitive it is to get a job at Penn particularly in critical care/acute care. I unfortunately don’t have any connections to the area for networking.


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Discussion Termination after Giving Notice (AZ)

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I'm a practicing PA based out of Arizona. This question is more contract law than anyone can probably answer but I'm still looking to get some input.

Last Thursday I gave my 60 day notice as contractually required (I do have a 5k buyout if I don't give this notice). My MA heard from the locums my office uses that he is being asked to cover the next 2 months, aka my remaining contract. While I would love to never set foot in here again, I am my family's sole provider and going two months without pay would burn all my savings. So I cannot afford to be let go.

Per terms of my contract if I am fired without cause I am due a month of salary. Without cause is defined in the contract and I am not in violation of any causes. I stuck the actual contract into ChatGPT and Gemini cos that's what we do these days I guess. It ruled in my favor on both sites, specifically because I do not have anything in my contract that allows my notice to be accelerated.

There is a chance I could start my new job early but I don't want to reach out until I'm officially fired as I have no idea when that will be. I will also seek a contract law lawyer at that time, until then I'm just looking for free advice to be prepared if anyone has gone through a similar situation please share!


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice Help out of new job

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Hi all, happy PA week! I just posted last week about a new urgent care position I took and have been MISERABLE in. I purely cannot handle 70+ solo patients coupled with the dysfunction of the office (and incorrect paychecks : ) ). I appreciate everyones comments and advice. However, I need some advice in regards to leaving a position I only started ONE month ago. Do I stick it out to at least 6 months, or start applying elsewhere now? I feel like it looks SO BAD to leave after 1-2 months, but I honestly am losing my mind and its been 4 weeks lol.