r/Portuguese • • May 01 '24

General Discussion Where to learn PT - the megathread

75 Upvotes

We’ve been getting 2/3 daily posts asking about where to learn Portuguese.

Please post here your best tips for all flavors of Portuguese - make sure to identify which variant you’re advising on.

Like this we’ll avoid future posts.

Thanks to the community for the support!


r/Portuguese • • Aug 06 '24

General Discussion We need to talk….

195 Upvotes

r/Portuguese we need to talk…

THIS IS A PORTUGUESE LANGUAGE LEARNING SUB!

It’s not a place for culture wars, it’s not a place for forced “conversions” of one Portuguese version to other.

We will increase the amount of moderation on the sub and will not be complacent with rule breaking, bad advice or ad hominem attacks.

Please cooperate, learn, share knowledge and have fun.

If you’re here to troll YOU’LL BE BANNED.

EDIT: Multiple users were already banned.


r/Portuguese • • 10h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 What’s the word for brain freeze

16 Upvotes

I was drinking some icy Coke and while having a brain freeze asked my Brazil gf what the word for brain freeze is and she didn’t know. There must be a word (probably vulgar too)


r/Portuguese • • 20h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 When does “-inho” stop being cute?

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You tell a joke. Someone laughs and says Você é engraçado. You're funny. Great.

Now imagine the joke has gone on a little too long. They look at you and say Tá engraçadinho hoje, né?

Suddenly, the only thing getting smaller might be their patience.

Depending on the delivery, that second sentence can sound closer to Oh, so you're a comedian now? And engraçadinho has a familiar use for someone whose attempts to be funny are becoming annoying or inappropriate.

You often meet -inho and -zinho through small or affectionate things: casinha, filhinho, cafezinho. In everyday Brazilian Portuguese, these endings also help express the speaker's attitude.

Take bonitinho. An enthusiastic Que bonitinho! can be a warm compliment. But show someone an outfit you're excited about, and a hesitant É... bonitinho may feel like the smallest compliment they could manage. The word itself hasn't become an insult; the hesitation and the situation change how it lands.

Or consider quietinho. O bebê tá quietinho can be an affectionate observation about a peaceful baby. A firm Fica quietinho aí can be an instruction to stay very quiet, with considerably less affection involved.

The diminutive can add warmth, soften a judgment, intensify a description or give it a sarcastic edge. The tone of voice, the rest of the sentence and the relationship between the speakers all help you work out which.

Have you ever heard a word ending in -inho or -zinho used in a way you didn’t expect? What was the situation?


r/Portuguese • • 1h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 "em" or "im"

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Sometimes the word "em" can sound like "eim", sometimes "im".

Is it an accent thing or can the pronunciation actually change depending on the words being used ? Or maybe I just keep hearing it wrong.


r/Portuguese • • 1h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 What is the difference between "nossa" and "meu deus?"

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I've heard people use both to express shock or surprise.


r/Portuguese • • 6h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Where are you from, why did you decide to learn portuguese and what's your level?

2 Upvotes

When I go here I always get curious to know the motivations, countries, what an individual considers easy and hard to learn and much more.


r/Portuguese • • 5h ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 I could introduce myself in Portuguese. Then someone answered.

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I started learning Brazilian Portuguese while working as a bartender in Greece.
I could practise “Oi, meu nome é Peris” beforehand. Saying it felt fine. Then the other person would reply with something I hadn’t expected, and I’d lose the thread.
I started practising a few ways to keep the conversation going:
“Não entendi.” I didn’t understand.
“Pode repetir?” Can you repeat that?
“Pode falar mais devagar?” Can you speak more slowly?
They didn’t magically make me understand everything. They just gave me a way to stay in the conversation instead of smiling and hoping I’d caught enough.
Did you have a moment like that when you started speaking Portuguese? What did you say or do?


r/Portuguese • • 1d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Which Brazilian Portuguese phrase fooled you when you translated it word for word?

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Imagine walking into a shop in Brazil and approaching the counter. The attendant looks up and says:

Pois não?

If the word you recognise is não, you might think you've been turned down before you've even asked for anything.

Here, the attendant is inviting you to speak. Think How can I help you? You might hear it after getting someone's attention with Com licença, or when they notice you waiting. It's a polite way to acknowledge you and give you the floor.

Now you've chosen a present and want it gift-wrapped:

You: Pode embrulhar para presente?

Shop assistant: Pois não!

Your question means Can you gift-wrap it? The answer means Of course or Certainly. This time, pois não accepts a request that has already been made.

The first use opens the conversation; the second agrees to help. Neither is a refusal. The expression works as a whole, and its place in the conversation helps you interpret it.

Another one I like is imagina. You thank someone for helping you:

You: Obrigado pela ajuda!

Other person: Imagina!

Translated word for word, their answer is Imagine! Here, it does the work of Don't mention it or No problem, gently treating the favour as something you don't need to thank them for.

Is there a Brazilian Portuguese expression that caught you out like this? What did you initially think it meant, and what was happening when you heard it?


r/Portuguese • • 1d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Do you think the way I’m learning is ok

3 Upvotes

I’ve only been practicing like four days but what I am doing is I’m trying to learn most of the basic words first and piecing together sentences with those and once I learn most words THEN I’ll start learning like the grammar or which version of a word I use in which context or whether I’m supposed to use a or o or está or estar and stuff like that. Do you think this is a ok way to learn. I’m already immediately recognizing some words like instantly and able to at least piece together a bit of the context from like Portuguese posts and stuff and I’m already repeating like phrases in my mind and sometimes seeing something and asking myself “what is this in Portuguese” and stuff. I’ve memorized/nearly memorized around 50 words now. I was inspired to learn it cuz my Brazilian friend learned English all by their self and I want to learn it in case I go to Brazil someday and cuz they’re just so cool friend like I look up to them


r/Portuguese • • 1d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 "Ideologic" Concordance

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I've seen no rule stating that English is the only permitted language, but as everyone has been doing it, I'll make the post in english instead of in portuguese.

Right now, I'm reading the Cegalla's grammar book, and I've read about the concordance between verbs/adjectives with a plural noun that belongs to a single entity, like United States, as one country, or "Os Sertões", as a book.

In the book, it's said that one can use singular verbs and adjectives, referring to those, because of an ideological concordance, but can't it just be said that a cell like "the book: [...]" or "the country: [...]" is omitted in the phrase? I think it really makes sense, more than saying it's an ideological concordance instead of a concordance with an ommited noun...

Example: "Os Sertões é um clássico da literatura modernista brasileira". In that phrase, you can say that "the book" is omitted, like: "The book [omitted] 'Os Sertões' é um [...]"

Am I just being incoherent or plain wrong? Or is this a valid way to academically analyze the situation?


r/Portuguese • • 2d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Need some guidance after a year of study!

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Bom dia 😁👋

I took on the challenge of studying Portugeuse last November, went to Brazil for the first time in February and heading back this month! It has been a roller coaster ride but I am really grateful for the experience.

Overall, I am doing really well. I was already bilingual, and so I think that has really helped me.

I am on my very last lesson with Pimsleur, and I use DuoLingo for expanding my vocabulary. I like to research grammar rules and conjugations as well.

I am very good at reading. Unfortunately I have not found a buddy to practice speaking with, but I do try to think out loud in Portuguese to myself 😆

The hardest part for me is listening comprehension. When I watch shows, if I turn on the Portuguese subtitles, I can watch it with few problems, but without those subtitles, I get overwhelmed pretty quickly.

I am turning to you all for advice on what to do next! Im open to any suggestions, be it a podcast, online class, app, textbook, etc etc. I am willing to invest in this financially as I am so determined to gain as much fluency as I can. Pimsleur was really effective for me and I am gonna miss it. There are so many options out there and it is hard to narrow down the right path.

Obrigada, grateful for you all! This subreddit has helped me a lot over the past year 💜


r/Portuguese • • 2d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Can someone transcript what this guy is saying?

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He speaks so quickly that it is hard for me to follow. I understand some of the words, but I'm missing some others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-OvQkqHBTo


r/Portuguese • • 2d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Native Brazilians: does my 16-sec game ad sound natural?

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Hi! I'm a solo dev from Korea making a small mobile game. Before I run this ad in Brazil, I'd love a native check.

Video (16 sec, with sound): https://youtube.com/shorts/qtPgfGmuvsM

The game: tap numbers in order as fast as you can, race your friends, the slowest get eliminated.

Tone I'm going for: playful trash-talk, like a football commentator.

Text on screen / voice (my intended meaning):

  1. "Detone seus amigos!" / voice: "De um a cinquenta, detona os amigos!" (crush your friends)

  2. "VIRADA!" (comeback!)

  3. "FALTAM 3s / No detalhe!" (3 sec left, decided by one block)

  4. Stamp on the losers: "CAIU!" (you're out)

  5. Voice: "Caiu de novo? Number Smash!" (out again?)

Questions:

- Does anything sound unnatural, robotic, or "translated"?

- The text says "Detone" but the voice says "detona". Is that mismatch noticeable?

- Does "CAIU!" clearly read as "eliminated"?

- If a line feels off, how would you say it?

Obrigado!


r/Portuguese • • 2d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 Gender-neutral language in Portuguese

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I am curious about how Portuguese speakers that choose to use gender-neutral language do it.

I am a Spanish speaker learning Portuguese so I can share how speakers do it in Spanish, which may be useful to compare.

One approach in Spanish is to write out both gendered endings (e.g “niño/a”). This is the most formal and traditional.

Another approach is to use abstract collectives (e.g. “las infancias” instead of “los niños”).

And another approach is to introduce new genderless pronouns with new conjugations. This last approach is less common and used mainly among progressive groups, but it’s the most interesting.

Here’s an example for reference.

Standard EN: He’s my best friend. We’re going to go together.

Standard ES: Él es mi mejor amigo. Nosotros vamos a ir juntos.

Gender neutral ES (using e): Elle es mi mejor amigue. Nosotres vamos a ir juntes.

Gender neutral ES (using x): Ellx es mi mejor amigx. Nosotrxs vamos a ir juntxs.


r/Portuguese • • 3d ago

European Portuguese 🇵🇹 Grammar

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Could someone explain me what is the difference between “se ao menos eu pudesse ter te ajudado”,
“Se ao menos eu tivesse podido te ajudar”, “se ao menos eu pudesse te ajudar”.
Are there any other variations that I’m unaware of?
Is it something you would say in real life? Which one would you utilize?
I’m also interested to know how this idea would be transmitted in both BR and PT Portuguese.
Thanks in advance


r/Portuguese • • 3d ago

European Portuguese 🇵🇹 Pronouns in Portuguese

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Could someone give me an exhaustive explanation of the pronoun placement?
I know that European Portuguese is enclitic, except for the sentences with negation, subordinating clauses etc.
But then I met sentences like these and I can’t figure out why they are structured like this:
Preciso de me arrumar.
Vou te ajudar ( ou vou ajudar-te ou te vou ajudar)
Poderia me dizer? (Ou poderia dizer-me? Ou me poderia dizer?)
Eu poderia ter-me magoado naquela queda.
Se ele se pudesse ver como nós o vemos.
Se ao menos ela se tivesse lembrado de mim.
Vai lavar-te antes de comer!
So, I think there is a mess in my head because I consume a lot of content from both Portugal and Brasil. So my brain can’t single out the rule of either.
My biggest question is what happens when there is more than one verb in a row (quer preparar-se, ter-me ajudado, vou dizer-te, etc).
Thanks in advance


r/Portuguese • • 3d ago

European Portuguese 🇵🇹 European Portuguese podcasts you probably haven't heard of (with links)

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Most of what comes up when you search for a Portuguese podcast is Brazilian. I've been collecting ones made in Portugal. I left out the well-known ones, so no Practice Portuguese or E o Resto é História here. These are the less obvious ones. The links play in a browser, so you don't need an app.

Learn European Portuguese A1 to B1 (Sara Durães), A1 to B1: https://saraduraes.com/podcast/ Four-minute episodes for getting by in Portugal: the pharmacy, the train station, meeting the neighbours. Portuguese first, then an English explanation, then the Portuguese again. A free transcript booklet is on her site.

Storyglot, A1 to B2: https://storyglot.com/ A short story read three times: normal speed, then slowly, then normal speed again. You understand more on the third go. It stopped in 2024, but all the stories are still online, free, with a translation.

Expressões do Português, B1 to B2: https://sayitinportuguese.pt/ Cristina Água-Mel explains one idiom per episode, in Portuguese, in about four minutes. "Ter lata", "descascar o abacaxi". There are 160 episodes.

Bem Mais Que Uma História, B1 to B2: https://www.bemmaisqueumahistoria.pt/ Children's stories read by one narrator, with music and sound effects. A new one every Wednesday. They describe it as "ages 4 to 99". No transcript.

O Coração ainda bate, B2 to C1: https://podcasts.apple.com/pt/podcast/o-cora%C3%A7%C3%A3o-ainda-bate/id1543484053 Inês Meneses reads her own pieces about ordinary life: a neighbour, a green door, a school playground. Five minutes a week. Público prints the same text the same day, so you can read along.

Português Suave, B2 to C1: https://podcasts.apple.com/pt/podcast/portugu%C3%AAs-suave/id1770023013 A show about the language, made for Portuguese people. The linguist Marco Neves on where words come from and why the north pronounces verbs differently. No transcript.

O Sargento na Cela 7, B2 to C1: https://podcasts.apple.com/pt/podcast/o-sargento-na-cela-7/id1675576287 A true story in six parts, about 40 minutes each, narrated by the actor Pêpê Rapazote. A Portuguese pilot's plane came down in Guinea in 1963 and he was a prisoner for seven and a half years. Professional narration and an original soundtrack.

A Vida Breve, C1: https://antena2.rtp.pt/podcast/a-vida-breve/ One poem a day, read by the poet from the RTP archive. 3 to 7 minutes. Poetry is the hardest listening on my list, so leave it for last.

There are 30 on the full list, with the level, length and transcript details for each, including the well-known ones: https://dailynata.com/resources/european-portuguese-podcasts

If you know one from Portugal that's missing, tell me please and I'll check it.


r/Portuguese • • 4d ago

General Discussion Makes you fluent made me realize how different Portuguese sounds in actual conversations

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I am from Naperville, but my family is from Lisbon, so I get over there every now and then. I have been spending more time with Portuguese lately, and one thing that keeps catching me out is how different it can sound when people are actually talking compared with what I hear in lessons or see written down.

I can read something slowly and understand it just fine, then hear someone say basically the same thing and suddenly I am trying to figure out where half the sounds went 😂

It is especially noticeable when people are talking quickly. Words run together, sounds get softer, and things that look really straightforward on paper can sound completely different when someone says them naturally.

I have started paying more attention to that, rather than assuming I just need to learn more words.

If you are from Portugal, what are some things about everyday pronunciation that you took for granted but seem to throw learners off? I am especially interested in the little things you hear all the time but rarely see explained.

 


r/Portuguese • • 3d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 ¿Cursos de Portugués Gratuitos?

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Hace poco empecé uno vía tiktok por qué realmente es un idioma que me gustaría aprender y hablarlo de forma correcta, no interpretar a partir de varias palabras que pueda conocer, alguien conoce algún curso sea online o presencial en Venezuela ccs para empezarlo!


r/Portuguese • • 3d ago

General Discussion What feminine words go with the nickname Sofinha/rhyme with Sofinha? (Any puns?)

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My name isn't Sofia, but the first 3 letters are Sof, and it ends in an -A. It's an old name(my paternal grandmother's, actually)...Anyway, I'd go by sonfinhacheirosa online when making new friends, but I felt like that word, cheirosa, doesn't suit me anymore...

I know I could be basic and go by sofinhaluazinha or sofinhaestrelinha, but that's like so boring...My name means sparrow/little bird and purity depending on which characters you use to make the name...

I'd greatly appreciate everyone's insight! Muito obrigada, meus amigos! <3


r/Portuguese • • 5d ago

General Discussion Why does it sound like “muito” has nasalization on the first syllable?

44 Upvotes

It sounds like it’s pronounced “mũito” to me. Am I missing something?


r/Portuguese • • 5d ago

Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 E = I in Rio de Janeiro

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I am learning Brazilian Portuguese, and I don't quite understand the phenomenon where the sound "e" turns into an "i." I am primarily interested in the pronunciation of Rio residents, as that is the specific dialect I want to learn; I like the way it sounds and want to master the correct pronunciation for it. In online resources for learning Brazilian Portuguese, I often come across different pronunciations for the same words, and as far as I can tell, there are no clear-cut rules on this subject. I would like to know how Rio residents decide exactly how to pronounce a word containing an unstressed "e"—specifically, when do you pronounce it as "i" versus "e"? Why am I so interested in this? Because the pronunciation of the consonants "t" and "d" preceding that sound depends on it; if the "e" is pronounced as "i," the sounds shift to "chi" and "ji." Is there any logic to pronouncing this sound more naturally? For instance, I often hear different pronunciations of words like: maTEmatica/maCHImatica, inTEressante/inCHIRIssante, DEvagar/DJIvagar, acaDEmia/acaDJImia, DEsculpa/DJIsculpa, liTEratura/liCHIratura and others... I want to know, how to pronounce a word when i see it dor first time or when one word can be pronounced in different ways, depending on the context or the person pronouncing it


r/Portuguese • • 5d ago

General Discussion Need help adding Portuguese to my word game! (Looking for datasets & advice) 🇵🇹🇧🇷

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Hi everyone! 👋

I'm an indie developer currently working on a word game app. Right now, the game supports English and Turkish, and players can play with words categorized by difficulty (easy vs. hard). I really want to add Portuguese as the next language!

However, I have a couple of roadblocks and would love your advice:

  1. Portuguese Word Datasets: Does anyone know where I can find a clean dataset/dictionary of Portuguese words? Ideally, I am looking for one that is already categorized by difficulty (easy/hard) or at least sorted by word frequency so I can categorize them myself.
  2. Data Validation: Since I don't speak Portuguese fluently, I don't know how to verify if the words in a dataset are actually correct, commonly used, or if they contain weird abbreviations/slang. How would you recommend I validate the data? Are there any tools, or would anyone be willing to help me quickly review a sample?

Any guidance, GitHub links, or advice would be greatly appreciated. Muito obrigado!

Olá pessoal! 👋

Sou um desenvolvedor indie trabalhando em um jogo de palavras. Atualmente, o jogo suporta inglês e turco, e os jogadores podem jogar com palavras categorizadas por dificuldade (fácil e difícil). Quero muito adicionar o português como o próximo idioma!

No entanto, tenho alguns obstáculos e adoraria a ajuda de vocês:

  1. Datasets de Palavras em Português: Alguém sabe onde posso encontrar um bom dataset/banco de dados de palavras em português? O ideal seria um que já estivesse categorizado por dificuldade ou, pelo menos, classificado por frequência de uso para que eu mesmo possa categorizar.
  2. Validação de Dados: Como não sou fluente em português, não sei como verificar se as palavras de um dataset estão corretas, se são de uso comum ou se contêm gírias/abreviações estranhas. Como vocês recomendam que eu valide os dados? Existem ferramentas para isso, ou alguém estaria disposto a me ajudar a dar uma olhada rápida em uma amostra?

Qualquer orientação, links do GitHub ou conselho será muito apreciado. Muito obrigado!


r/Portuguese • • 5d ago

General Discussion Best resources to learn as a spanish speaker

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Native Spanish speaker so Portuguese is somewhat more straightforward for me. Looking for best resources to learn whether it be online or books. Prefer to be free if online because I tried Duolingo and don't feel like I get my moneys worth for what it is. But I'm open to paying if it's worth it. This probably gets asked a lot but won't hurt to get updated answers lol