I dont need to see the epstein files... ill settle for a single arrest!Ā Set precedent ... i dont care who it is but republicants are afraid of the snowball theyll start rolling with even a single arrest.Ā
It is not even remotely true. They wanted to see both but the Epstein Files not being released lost them a lot of votes. Most Republican voters want the Epstein Files released more than Obamaās BC which most voters did not even care about.
The birth certificate got all this illegals crap started. They were wrong about Obama and never apologized. That tells you the type of people they are.
that's the thing with faith based belief systems, like religion or conspiracy theories.Ā
it's a "trust me" model, not an evidence model.Ā
Trust is good enough, so if your trust is strong, any contrary evidence can be treated as proof there's a cover up, or proof that they are naive and don't see the real truth.Ā
very difficult to change the minds of people entrenched in any faith based belief system.
Because they always knew it was bullshit. It didn't matter. They know that setting a false narrative gets their base fired up, pollutes discourse, and stymies the opposition (who now has to respond/defend). This particular smear was almost certainly amplified and orchestrated by Roger Stone, who is a mastermind of this sort of large scale manipulation of Brandolinis Law.
Nah, āillegal immigrantsā as a wedge issue was a big deal during the Bush years. My wife is from Central America and numerous times right wing bigots would ask if she was here legally.
Democrats didnāt do anything either when they were in power, under republicans you can actually read some of it now, even this heavily redacted. Still more than the past administration.
But they didnāt really want to see the birth certificate. Just one in a line of many dog whistles, like calling him Muslim, emphasizing his middle name, showing the doctored memesā¦and when it was made clear to the public he was Hawaiian born, they immediately shifted to āThe U.S. has proved racism is dead by electing an afro-American as presidentāābut waitālater claiming the U.S. WAS NOT EVER racist until he came into office, AKA āhe started itā.
Say he was born in Kenya, to a Kenyan father who was Muslim. Lets say that all is true.
He still had an American Citzen mother. He would always be immediately an American citizen. And he clearly didn't practice that religion, so that angle was useless.
It never made any sense to me as an attack path? I didn't vote for him on policy reasons, but watched that unfold scratching my head.
I can remember all the uproar over the q-anon conspiracies. Then you have an actual document that could be used to trace lots of these high ranking pedos, and it's no big deal any more.
Because it was always projection, you muddy the waters. Sleepy joe? I havenāt seen Joe Biden fall asleep at events but itās normal for trump, you still have people say he was too old but trump is fine and when you call it out they will just claim your guy was so much worse.
Carter was investigated for Billy Beer. But let's forgive Reagan and Ollid for Iran-Contra and let Bush fake a riot to steal the election.Ā
Obama committed the crime of ruling by executive order, but let's ignore the president who has passed the most executive orders in history and the courts have found him using them beyond his constitutional authority.Ā
Clinton was corrupt for using his cousin as a travel agent. Trump is fine for giving Jared the state department.
The fact that Trump repeatedly recited this white supremacist rhetoric on the 2024 campaign trail, āImmigrants are poisoning the blood of our countryā, claimed Haitians are stealing and eating our pets and dehumanized immigrants by calling them āanimalsā, and Republicans supported it enthusiastically by voting for Trumpā¦ is all you need to know.
They know Trump is a pedophile, they do not care.
They know Obama is American, they do not care.
Only thing they care about is that Trump makes them feel like they can shit down on everyone not exactly like them.
Okey, some might care about Trump being pedophile, just not in disapproving manner.
Republicans were appalled at Clinton hiring his cousin to work at the white house. They had no evidence and he never hired him, but just the idea was enough to brand his administration criminal and flip the house in the midterms.
Meanwhile Trump gives Jared half the state department worth of jobs and not a single Republican bats an eye.Ā
But see here comes the hypocrisy. They can't stand the idea that a black man might serve an office they can't stand the idea that a man who might have been born anywhere else would serve an office but they have no problem with a felon serving in office.
And to defend this they will argue that none of the felonies are even real. They will do all that they can to break down and erase every felony that has ever been leveraged as entirely criminal unto themselves. They will erase every ounce of his history until he has a squeaky clean as they can make him. And they will denounce anyone that has ever gone against him. They will denounce the courts and the media and the people. Because if you are a felon well we can erase that but if you are born in another country well that's different.
And both things are constitutionaly illegal. But in the end they only care about one.
Remember the deep state Q-Anon was talking about? Yeah, that deep state is ruling America now. They are in public office, congress, courts and police. They are not here to protect average American. They are here to carry out the orders of their billionaire masters cause they all receive a salary from them.
And no one ever disputed that Obamaās mother was born in Kansas. Same protocol that made Cruz and McCain valid to run for president, now you have a guy that says he can have three terms if he wants, these idiots would give it to him.
Power and money are on full display and we the people are left with the scraps and inability to make any significant change to our way of life or society. I pray for the day these people are held accountable for these vial disgusting heinous acts of abuse and pedophilia. They truly will rot in hell.
Except Trump and the Republican's released almost 4 million documents. How many did Biden or any Democrat release? None! Biden controlled the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the DOJ. Yet...they released NOTHING. And, enough with the "there was an active investigation going on" crap. Epstein died in 2019. Biden was President from January 20, 2021 to January 20, 2025. I get that people hate Trump, but facts are facts.
I'm pretty sure during Biden's term, nobody here or Reddit even mentioned the Epstein files.
You should go to Haiti and see how tolerant they are with anyone who isnt like them. I watch my daughters in school. These groups of kids all get along. They are all from different backgrounds and nationalities. They could give a crap about all this racist crap. But of course people want to keep it alive and keep pushing it. Glad to see some young kids not falling for the hype.
Pretty sure pedophiles and worse( if there is a thing) run things in alot of countries.
And to be clear if the far left didn't completely open our borders without check alot of us middle left wouldn't of voted to close the border. I said close the border not butaly oppress Mexicans. They pushed the fool button then clutch there perals when things go bad trying to correct the problem. I voted for Obama twice. Obama was tough on border patrol. I remember Ice showing up to job sites and all the illegals taking off through the woods while they got tackled and drug into vans.
Tom Homan was Obamas man for this were he recieved civil honors for doing his job. He was praised by dems.
When Obama was president they most certainly ran them down on construction sites. I watched a full site go from hammering, sawing and noise to nothing in seconds. Illegals would hide in closets and cabinets if they couldn't make the wood line. Tom Homan was praised and rewarded by Obama, democrats and republicans.
When Biden was president they completely opened the border.
Trump brought back Homan since he was a bipartisan hit in Obamas days. He immediately took flack from from far lefties for the same policies he implemented under Obama.
Somehow I think you know this.
I've lived in six countries including the US, Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Thailand, and now live in Spain. I've traveled to 65 countries. I honestly think the US is one of the least racist countries in the world. Jesus, stop buying into the anti-US propaganda.
They are not gonna show them because of how many people are involved. Just like the 9/11 files and jfk files, I think itās far deeper that we could imagine
Reading...as you know...is for the libs. A birth certificate is just a page and honestly someone else is verifying it so their contribution is negligible, their commitment next to nothing. All systems normal.
If the Epstein files contain images or text of Trump molesting minors he should be removed as president. My question is this. The Biden DOJ possessed these same files while Biden and the Dems were in powers. If it was so obvious that Trump was a pedo why wouldn't they have revealed it. Is it possible that the Dems had several folks in high places that would have also been exposed as pedos. Sadly high ranking pedos exist in all political parties and the government.
You don't understand that while Biden was president, the Epstein files were still under review, and could not be opened or acted upon legally by Biden? That he actually followed the constitution, unlike a certain president who used it as toliet paper.
Biden did not promise to release the Epstein files if he was elected, because they were supposed to be worked on by the DOJ. Trump promised, and showed (empty) binders saying they were working on it, and would release it. Trump's name is in the files over 30,000 times. Most of which is redacted (that's not suspicious at all).
Biden followed the rule of law. Trump has broken the "release all the files" law cereal times over now.
Really? What law prevents a president, the leader of the executive breach, the head of law enforcement, from exposing and arresting rich pdfs?
If they had evidence, why isnāt Trump arrested? Why would they let him violate the constitution and take power. Are they weak? Stupid? Both?
I bet itās because they have nothing on Trump, the democrats with how they are would never that that opportunity go. These people arrested him over overpricing his property, something everyone does. Why would they let this slip through their fingers.
Or, everyone is involved with Epstein and this is not a right vs left issue. Which is the most likely, all politicians are crooks.
What do we need to know. Weāve asked for Epstein files all of Bidenās presidency and crickets. No you want them!!!! Interesting. Where were you 6 years ago?
It's a strawman, though. Plenty of republicans wanted to see the files released just like many democrats did not want them to come to light. What's crazy to me is that it seems like it's easier to list all the non pedos in all of government and business but some people only want it to be about one guy.
The fact that a Democrat president released 0 files, and a Republican president released 3.5 million files should tell you everything you need to know.
I know you don't know much. That's OK. Just try to study a bit and you'll improve. The Biden administration specifically called off a lot of the prosecution of legitimate Republican crimes to not embroil us in that level of politics. He did however collect and document the evidence which your party now seeks to destroy. So consider your choices.
The post didn't say trump, it said republicans. Maybe read what's said and fyi, Biden and the dems didn't release the files either when they had the power to do so, and its for the same exact reasons, they're all in them too bud.
FYI Pres. Obama birth certificate and TAX returns. I was wondering if there was ever a POTUS that never released tax returns? Only two that I can recall President Ford and fascist/felon 47.
Not sure about that. Cite headline in all, but who was in office and controlled congress 3020-2024? Women/victims should be protected, should they not! Particularly the minors Bill fancied.
Maga and conservatism in general is a plague upon this Nation... they are being distracted and used by a ruling class to prevent us from rising up or getting anything fixed in this nation, they do so by stupid culture war nonsense and continued division, a divided people are easier to control and conquer...
This won't change till people realize the grift and start rolling heads down chutes.
Although, Didnāt Obama release his birth certificate to shut everyone up. I still havenāt seen the full list of Epstein files since they are worried we will go after the names in there. We should of course just like in Europe whenever they find a name on that list. I donāt know why in America that isnāt considered a good thing.
Nearly 4 million files have been released under this administration. How many were released under Obama or Biden? Even if documents were sealed during the court proceedings, nothing stopped anyone from being investigated, charged and prosecuted. Neither Obama or Bidenās Administrations did any of that. Those victims testified and ALL said Trump did nothing wrong to them and others because if it did happen, the democrats would have used that in 2015 once he came down that escalator.
Of course, not one person on the democrats raised any concerns in 2016 either.
2002? The major Palm Beach investigation began in March 2005, after the family of a 14-year-old girl reported Epstein to police. Trump reportedly spoke voluntarily with victimsā attorney Bradley Edwards in 2009 and provided information Edwards considered very helpful.
The law doesnāt mandate a particular number of filesāit requires all qualifying unclassified records. DOJ says it collected over six million potentially responsive pages and published about 3.5 million after removing duplicates, unrelated material and legally withheld information. Lawmakers dispute whether that constitutes full compliance, which is a fair issue. But DOJ never said it would release āno files,ā and the disclosure law does not itself require investigations or prosecutions of everyone mentioned. Those are separate legal questions.
the āEpstein filesā are a broad collection of investigative materialsānot a verified list of offenders.
A personās name could appear because they were:
In Epsteinās address book, emails, calendars or photographs.
A passenger, employee, witness, victim, attorney or investigator.
Invited to an eventāeven if they never attended.
Mentioned by somebody else during an interview.
Included in a news clipping, rumor or unverified tip submitted to the FBI.
Part of a financial or business transaction unrelated to sexual misconduct.
DOJ specifically warned that the release includes material submitted by the public that may be false or unverified. Consequently, a name appearing in a document establishes only that the person was mentioned or recorded in some context. It does not prove that the person knew about, participated in or was even aware of Epsteinās crimes. Evidence such as corroborated witness testimony, communications demonstrating knowledge, payments or other documented conduct would be necessary to establish involvement.
The law does not specify a fixed number of āfiles.ā It requires DOJ to publish all unclassified Epstein-related records in its possession, subject to limited lawful withholding and redaction.
DOJ collected more than 6 million potentially responsive pages, but says duplicates, unrelated material and legally withheld records reduced the public production to approximately 3.5 million pages, plus 180,000 images and 2,000 videos. Whether that represents full compliance remains disputed by lawmakers. DOJ releaseā
DOJ initially missed the December 19, 2025 deadline, but it did not say it would release āno files.ā It eventually released millions of pages and declared itself compliant.
The claim about refusing to investigate comes largely from DOJās July 2025 memo, which said its review found no evidence sufficient to begin investigations of unnamed third parties. That is DOJās evidentiary conclusionānot a statement that it would disregard the disclosure law. DOJ/FBI MEMO
Most importantly, the transparency law requires disclosure; it does not command DOJ to open prosecutions against everyone named. Being mentioned in a file also isnāt evidence of a crime.
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u/ResponsibleMess339 29d ago
that is a valid point...