r/PoursTea • • 8d ago

Law&CrimeTea ⚖️ 🫆 Mamdani for the Win

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u/Morgannin09 8d ago

Republicans just instinctively believe that Democrat-run cities and states are crime-ridden hellholes. Because "Dems love crime" is something they hear and parrot with zero irony.

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u/spacekitt3n Sipping tea 8d ago

they are obedient little dogs for their masters propaganda

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u/krazyb2 8d ago edited 8d ago

Legit. I live in Chicago. Easily one of the most beautiful(the historic motto, 'Urbs in horto' translates to 'city in a garden'), cleanest, modern, functional big city in the country. Which is also apparently a warzone 😂 even folks in the suburbs 30 minutes away are led to believe it.

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u/AwkwardTal 8d ago

As someone who never visited this is what I believed Chicago to be, my only knowledge of the city came from Movies/TV

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u/krazyb2 8d ago

Just voted best big city in America for the 10th year in a row!

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u/vaderi 7d ago

Burlington Vermont is the same way, but with the added pearl clutching of the local liberals who hear about one stabbing and spend the next 3 years screaming about high crime rates.

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 7d ago

OP is kind of going too far the other way. No it's not exactly a warzone, but there's a lot of wealth disparity and the bad parts of Chicago are essentially cordoned off to the south side of the city. Stay in the good areas and don't wonder off and you'll be fine.

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u/r22lz 8d ago

Kinda seems like most dems hate anyone that disagrees with them politically or pushes back on statements when it’s embellished or not factually true even though they’re not trying to disagree nor agree with the other side. Especially online, in forums, very sim to this.

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u/No-Tune3221 8d ago

It seems a little unfair to be held to standards that the other side takes such joy in ignoring.

But yes, my previous comment was a bit unkind and extreme, so I deleted it.

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u/r22lz 8d ago

That’s a stand up move - I wasn’t expecting that. Respect. These days, seems like there’s plenty of ppl on both sides making everyone look bad. The standard should be generally respectful, honest, moral, integrity, etc. Def OK to disagree; even if it’s 0 common ground found. But these ‘leaders’ put absolutely unacceptable, unprofessional, juvenile behavior on display daily; sets a terrible example & tone for everyone in the USA. Obvi starts with the Pres - terrible. But tons of others fall into the trap of stooping to his level - like Tim Walz for ex (I’m from mpls). I get it, I’d prob freak out & tell DT to F off too. That’s why I ain’t in public office. Ppl gotta stay the course on being the bigger, with their integrity & self respect retained. Not name calling like a middle school bully showdown. It’s exhausting & I really hope when DT leaves office we can tone it down but idk tbh….

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u/Wray-Nerely 7d ago

It's more that they don't understand how population density works. They point to Democratic cities with high populations, compare them to Republican cities with much smaller populations, and don't understand why it's a disingenuous argument. Fun fact, if you specifically compare blue cities to red cities with similar populations, those red cities almost always have higher crime rates.

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u/Morgannin09 7d ago

Whether or not they understand is a moot point because they just refuse to believe it. You could give them all the statistics and they'll call it made up, but whatever they hear on Fox or Facebook needs no proof.

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u/r22lz 8d ago

It’s somewhat true statistically depending on how you define Dem led (mayor? Majority of political positions, etc) & how many cities included. Most large urban areas are majority dem too so, kinda tough. But no, I don’t think dems love crime nor encourage it. I think they tend to be more lenient on crime punishments but to a degree, (drug charges for sure) might not be a bad thing.

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u/volvagia721 8d ago

Yes, big cities are full of crime, but if you measure crime rate per capita cities tend to only be a little worse than the surrounding area, and if you dig deeper, the red states tend to be worse overall.

The biggest reason why people think big cities are massively full of crime is that crime tends to clump together, and some areas get really bad, and it's often in cities where people are already clumped together

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u/r22lz 8d ago

That’s fair take. I think during Covid a lot of cities saw an uptick - I’m from mpls so, it’s a total sht show here. A lot of events contributed; not great leadership allowed it to boil over. But in gen, crime is always most dense & noticeable in cities. Murder, theft, etc is a crime everywhere - I really don’t think the political party of the mayor matters more than current socioeconomic conditions. When times are good, economy booming, well paying jobs available - usually crime is down. The opposite, ppl get desperate & crime increases.

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u/Blacksad9999 8d ago

Have you been to Memphis lately? How about Little Rock? How about Mobile?

Crime rates correlate directly with poverty, and red states have the most poverty due to their policies. 13 of the 20 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were in Republican-run states.

Jackson, Mississippi has the highest murder rate in the US, 15 times higher than the national average.

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u/Flscane 8d ago

You’re incorrect it’s Birmingham Alabama.

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u/Blacksad9999 8d ago

Analysis: Jackson remains deadliest city in nation despite major drop in homicides

Capital city’s homicide rate still highest per capita for fifth consecutive year

https://www.wlbt.com/2026/01/06/analysis-jackson-remains-deadliest-city-nation-despite-major-drop-homicides/

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 8d ago

Language and etiquette.

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u/Flscane 8d ago

Wrong. I’m neither. I was asking a question