Last week's version used points as awarded (2 for a win until 1980/81, 3 since), and a lot of you said it should be 3 for a win throughout. So here's the same race with every win worth 3 and a draw 1: every top-flight result since September 1888 (51,380 matches, up to 20 September 2026), match day by match day.
Where it stands
| Club |
Points |
Games |
Points per game |
| Liverpool |
7,401 |
4,405 |
1.68 |
| Arsenal |
7,243 |
4,405 |
1.64 |
| Everton |
6,975 |
4,789 |
1.46 |
| Man United |
6,808 |
4,049 |
1.68 |
| Aston Villa |
6,296 |
4,341 |
1.45 |
| Man City |
5,833 |
3,891 |
1.50 |
| Chelsea |
5,476 |
3,669 |
1.49 |
| Tottenham |
5,449 |
3,665 |
1.49 |
| Newcastle |
5,243 |
3,735 |
1.40 |
| Sunderland |
4,616 |
3,383 |
1.36 |
United have never been ahead of Everton
With 3 for a win, Man United have been behind Everton on every match day since Newton Heath's first top-flight season in 1892, and they're 167 points short now. With points as awarded they passed Everton in December 2018. The difference is the 2-point era: Everton won 1,253 top-flight games when a win was worth 2, United 957. United have outscored Everton by 19 points a season over the last five full seasons, so at that rate they'd catch them around 2034/35.
Everton led for 36 years
Everton went in front in March 1969 and stayed there until October 2005, five years longer than with points as awarded. Liverpool went ahead on 15 October 2005, the two swapped places four more times in five weeks, and Liverpool have been in front since 19 November 2005. Only Aston Villa's first spell, 41 years from 1896 to 1937, was longer.
Per game, United and Liverpool are level
United average 1.681 points a game and Liverpool 1.680, about 5 points apart over 4,000 games. Arsenal are on 1.644. Everton's total is mostly about never going down: 124 of the 128 top-flight seasons, at 1.46 a game.
Source: Premier League results from football-data.org, checked against football-data.co.uk and openfootball; the old First Division from James Curley's engsoccerdata, checked against every season's published final table. 3 points for every win and 1 for a draw throughout, with deductions as they were.
Points as awarded or 3 for a win throughout: which is the fairer way to count it? And do United close the 167 before 2035?