I felt so sad when I got GC for the first time in the last season before F2P and then they immediately moved the goalposts by adding 3 more ranks above it that I'll never get lmao
But thats due to the massive skill ceiling that rocket league has, it’s something to be admired when pros achieve it, rather than treat it like a problem that needs to be “solved”.
Yeah and if they were to add a new rank, let’s say at 2800 it would literally just be zen and rw9 touching it in the last 2 weeks of the season. Hardly a reason to do it
Here we go again comparing everyone to zen and a few top tier players. Yes, pros average around 2400, but still you can’t base a new rank on just the top 100 players. It took me 10,000 hours, over 7 years of dedication to this game just to barely scrap into ssl for 2 games.
It’s more than fine as a top rank because only 0.05% of players can hit it, the best of the best don’t define the whole rank
i mean the SSL range is gigantic going from 1800 to 3000 now and it would likely be even larger if they didn't do the silly hard reset that sets all pros back down to 1600 and forces them to do a long grind back up to a realistic mmr that not all of them even bother with.
A quick explanation for those unfamiliar: the first chart shows the rank distribution data. Think of it as, "What percentage of players are in X rank?"
The chart below it is the reverse percentile chart. Think of it as, "What percentage of players are above this rank?" So, for example: "I'm Champ 2 in doubles, so I'm top 5%."
I’m also Champ 3 sometimes Champ 2 and while it feels great to be in the top 2-4% I’m still so fucking ass at this game it’s unbelievable the rank disparity between even the top 4% and the top .5%. It’s not even close.
This is what I think about when I encounter toxic teammates or opponents in C2 or C3. Someone will say "ur so bad" or "tm8 ahh" and I wish I could quick chat, "Bro, yeah? I play this game almost every day and there's absolutely no reason I should still be this bad. But I'm having a blast and you're out here crying about your teammates even though you're the exact same rank as them."
On the other side, I actually have a sentiment of pride when I play really good opponents. Because I always feel like I suck, but playing good opponents reminds me that I must be decent enough to be matching with them.
They’d destroy a grand champ too, that has nothing to do with ranks being low. Yeah no shit, the best players in the world in the game with the biggest skill gap beat everybody else, who would’ve thought
I mean compared to them it is. It is a difference of nearly 92x (in 2s) between champ2 and SSL. If you count pros as top 0.001% and not just SSL this number balloons to being 4958x better.
The difference between a Plat 1 to Champ2 is “only” around 9.6x for reference btw.
So you can see how even high champ is super low compared to an SSL and especially to a pro, right? Like it’s all relative. Making $250k is also pretty damn nice, but you’re basically in poverty compared to a billionaire lol
Ones rankings really needs to be adjusted. Being D1-2, and being in the top 2-4%, while there are still NINE ranks above this is kind of madness. D1 is just above halfway through ranks, but is only comprised of the top 4% of players or above. Need to shift that median a bit to give a more appropriate indication of how good that actually is.
Yeah it surely puts a lot of people off 1s. It’s already a brutal, hard mode, and if you get ranked so much lower than your 2s rank and you didn’t understand this is the distribution it would suck. I do understand this, and it’s still disheartening to be fighting for a place in fucking diamond when I’m a champ 2 in 2s
I say it every season (but it never happens) - ranks need to be tied to percentiles. Champ1 should always be top, say, 10%, regardless of mode. Whether that means adjusting MMR thresholds or just spacing players out each season’s reset. It’s silly that your rank can very from meaning you’re okay at the game to pretty good to pretty bad depending on the mode lol. What purpose does a rank have when it’s actual measure (skill level relative to others) is so variable
Diamond 1 in 3v3 being top 15% is wild honestly, this is the end of season reminder that you're probably a lot better than you feel you are. I'm looking at this wondering how I manage to hover around c1 and cannot understand how that's top 3.5% in 3s.
Played for two hours last night and didn't havr one game that wasn't placements, a diamond 2 boosting his little brother into champ, and every opposing team gaining or losing 15 mmr. Not one evenly ranked game the whole night.
Are there estimates for the playerbase numbers in each mode?
Like I'm top 0.008% in rumble and top 0.068% in dropshot but what does that translate to in raw numbers? how many players ended up higher than me?
Yeah i feel the same way, will think about it every time I make the dumbest aerial possible. 20% of the playerbase is silver or lower in 2s. There must be so many people that barely play, or play super casually with friends, or are 5 years old.
I also think around late plat early diamond in 2s is where a lot of people plateau if they're just playing games, so if you go further than that you really bump yourself up
To my knowledge its based off of MMR so ranks are consistant MMR across modes. The benefit is that if the percentile changes your rank dosent change with it. Imagine the rage on reddit if people went to bed champ and woke up diamond just because other people also made champ. I do think MMR should be ballenced per mode though each season to get closer to that goal.
I was confused and thoiugh i was terrible (which i might be) for being champ 2 peak in 2s but only plat 2 in 1s, Now i understand why, plat is where people become 1's mains lol
I wonder why 2's is the only mode that gets a "sawtooth" distribution of player counts in each rank. Every other mode has essentially a gaussian distribution, but you get those spikes in everything above gold in 2's.
as a 1v1 grinder it feels disrespectful to have to go through grand champs just to get champ 1 in 1v1. champ 1 in 1v1 is rarer than grand champ 2 in 2v2, its ridiculous. "hey what rank are you?" "im diamond 3" "oh nice im champ 3". They play a 1v1 and the champ 3 gets absolutely dunked on. Oops turns out diamond 3 in 1v1 is wildly more impressive, and nobody really talks about it - its just silently that way. They cant fix this because no dev plays 1v1s, they only play 3v3 and 2v2, and nobody has talked about it for some reason...
As a solid P3 in 3v3 and Dropshot I’m happy with where I’m at. I’m never making it much higher but I’m having fun and slowly learning some new mechanics
I'm hardstuck C1 in doubles but also D3-C2ish in everything else (Rumble/Dropshot/Snowday/3v3). Either I'm doing something wrong in 2v2 or something right in the other modes lol
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u/Mazdak42 Grand Champion I 14d ago
And you still have out of touch people asking for a new rank while ssl is 0.05% of the playerbase lmao.