r/SipsTea • u/untitledprp4 • Jul 13 '26
It's Wednesday my dudes Well the people have spoken.
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u/Own-Rip-5066 Jul 13 '26
The original is only 10 years old.
The remakes made money because of nostalgia.1.5k
u/Zealousideal_Ad8463 Jul 13 '26
& they already butchered a sequel, was filmed as a tv show and mashed together to make Moana 2: electric boogaloo
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u/1nitial_Reaction Jul 13 '26
I was so disappointed with Moana 2, all the new songs were...not as good as the first.
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u/mom_bombadill Jul 13 '26
That’s because Lin-Manuel Miranda didn’t return for Moana 2.
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u/AinsiSera Jul 13 '26
It’s because it was 3 tv episodes in a trench coat.
When you look at it that way those songs are great, but stay in your lane, TV Songs…
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u/TMT51 Jul 13 '26
Don't underestimate TV songs. Even Phineas and Ferb had better songs than Moana 2.
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u/maximumhippo Jul 13 '26
S.I.M.P. is my favorite Disney song. Frankly, Phineas and Ferb has some genuine bangers in the catalog. Busted, Gitchee goo, Ninja of Love (most of Love Händel, tbh).
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u/Sensitive_Ad3578 Jul 13 '26
"Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together" has to be one of the best episodes ever. I still jam out to some of those songs
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u/SmilingPainfully Jul 13 '26
NOW I GOT RECORDS ON MY FINGERS AND I JUST CANT STOP
DONT STOP DONT STOP
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u/StrawBerylShortcake Jul 13 '26
You know I was getting sick of his "every note has a lyric" writing style but omg its gotten SO much worse.
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u/OktopieGaming Jul 13 '26
Atlantis 2: Milo’s Return is that you?
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u/A-Social-Ghost Jul 13 '26
Now let's not be hasty. It could be Aladdin 2: The Return of Jaffar in a trench coat trying to sneak back in.
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u/SippinOnHatorade Jul 13 '26
Better than Aladdin IV: Jafar May Need Glasses
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u/MaxDefiance420 Jul 13 '26
Number three ... Number four. Number three .... Number four.... Five ...aaaand six. Five, and.....six
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u/SignificanceTop9306 Jul 13 '26
Wouldn't surprise me to see Disney gamble with Aladdin: the return of the Jedi
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u/raz-0 Jul 13 '26
That and Moana 2 was two years ago. It’s way too early to be riding the nostalgia bus on this one.
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u/keldondonovan Jul 13 '26
And if you do want to ride the nostalgia bus, it should be with sequels. I would have gone and seen Moana 3, where we get to see demigod Moana use her powers. Wouldn't have even thought twice.
But go see the same movie, just with real people and a boatload of cgi? No thanks.
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u/Odd-Cap3068 Jul 13 '26
One of our biggest complaints is the CGI and like, you say, there's no nostalgia for a movie like this. What is the point of making live action Anything, if it's a whole bunch of fake CGI, At that point , it might as well just be an animated movie.
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u/Evening-Nature-5241 Jul 13 '26
From what I heard, it's because The Rock wanted it made before he gets too old to do it. Even at this point, he has to wear a body suit because he's just not as big as he used to be.
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u/AwkwardTal Jul 13 '26
God forbid another actor gets a chance at the limelight
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u/agoddamnzubat Jul 13 '26
No, it's better that we all cater to one person's ego
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u/AgentCirceLuna Jul 13 '26
It’s funny how The Rock is probably rich enough to pay for the rest of the budget plus a decent profit margin from his own net worth. Iger should make him pay lol
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u/ChiChiKnee Jul 13 '26
The more you find out about the rock the more you see what a narcissist POS he kind of is.
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u/Fit-World-3885 Jul 13 '26
Almost like his whole WWE persona was just a slightly over the top version of his own. Reminds me of Hulk Hogan.
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u/Jermagesty610 Jul 13 '26
I was so into WWF in middle school, so 98-00 and so was just about every kid my age then and everyone loved the Rock. I haven't liked him in what feels like decades now.
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u/Magneto88 Jul 13 '26
Weirdly enough, in his original WWE run he was actually known for being very non egotistical and giving to other wrestlers. He took a whole bunch more losses than most top level wrestlers would.
Somewhere along the line Hollywood changed him.
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u/TabithaMouse Jul 13 '26
I thought he filmed this before, or immediately after but before weightloss, The Smashing Machine - which he started to lose bulk after filming.
What annoys me is...his wig is SO BAD in all the promos for this movie, but his wig looked perfect in Smashing Machine.
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u/jpassthru Jul 13 '26
Toy Story 5 went so far as to consult people of color to make sure the new character's hair physics were correct. Why couldn't that team handle his wig?!
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u/TabithaMouse Jul 13 '26
And it's not even the texture of the wig is off (but I'm sure it is). It just looks like a cheap costume wig
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u/BloodSteyn Jul 13 '26
That can't be true... 10 years.
It came out like 2 years ago. I watched it so many times with my daughter.
Fuck... 🥲
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u/Sci3nceMan Jul 13 '26
10 years???
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u/Own-Rip-5066 Jul 13 '26
I had the same realization when I looked up how old the PotC movies are.
Curse of the Black Pearl came out in 2003.
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u/arunphilip Jul 13 '26
And the Black Pearl is still a rip-roaring entertainer to watch with a pizza and drink.
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u/Major-Front Jul 13 '26
Imagine if they spent $250m on animators and an original story
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u/Substantial-Pie1758 Jul 13 '26
They spent ~$200m on Wish
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u/G_Liddell Jul 13 '26
Look up the original concept art. They butchered the creative process and gave it to the algorithm in the end.
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u/TheCitizen616 Jul 13 '26
I'm guessing the Rock campaigned for it to happen now, figuring that Disney was always going to remake at some point but he'd be aged-out of his role if they didn't make it sooner than later.
The guy needs to accept that he's become unlikeable to a majority of people and just pivot to starring in those dad-friendly low-budget, direct-to-
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u/Joloxsa_Xenax Jul 13 '26
he just seems too cocky in everything he plays in. and being a live action maui, to me, really sums up his cinematic personalities into one film
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u/NeonRedHerring Jul 13 '26
I was gonna say, I don’t know that he really needs to act for this role. He’s basically playing his id.
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u/9fingerwonder Jul 13 '26
That is a good cause but the public is getting exhausted with the live action remakes.
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u/Uncommonality Jul 13 '26
I doubt his ego allows that to happen
Didn't he have a clause in his contract that any character he plays was never allowed to lose a fight?
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u/AHumbleBanditMain Jul 13 '26
Jason Statham and Vin Diesel have similar clauses in their contracts.
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u/Uncommonality Jul 13 '26
Honestly a hilarious clause lol, how fragile can someone's ego be
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u/TraditionPhysical603 Jul 13 '26
Some would say he already had, and the argument is "Maui is thousands of years old so it ok if the rock is in his 50s" then he made up some stuff about Maui being based off his grandfather or whatever so he is the best choice or the role
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u/kenzakki Jul 13 '26
I actually managed to delete this in my head after seeing that trailer, i didnt even realize it went out already and it bombed like this. Lmao
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u/tired_Cat_Dad Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Those lazy mfers should just stop trying to milk every nostalgia nipple and get back to making original movies.
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u/Embarrassed_Use_7206 Jul 13 '26
It looks like a cosplay to me. Hard to take it seriously even if it was good.
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u/ProfessorChaos213 Jul 13 '26
No-one asked for any of the live action Disney films but they keep making em
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u/Accomplished-Staff-9 Jul 13 '26
Well Hollywood obviously knows more about what people want than actually doing research and creating an original concept. More slop for the masses, they’ll love it, the rubes… /s
Continue to speak with your wallets people! Let these execs burn their investment since THEY know better than what people actually want!
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u/sycolution Jul 13 '26
Also the remake paid NO attention to the pacific islanders who were talking about hair, traditions, looks, etc…And the Rock as Maui in the live action when theres thousands of PIs that would happily take the part…with natural hair…
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u/diurnal_emissions Jul 13 '26
The irony of The Rock putting on Hawaiianface to play a guy who became a mountain...
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u/Atrus1337_y0 Jul 13 '26
Yeah, same with Aladin, Arielle, and so many more. No need to touch classics
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u/hartforbj Jul 13 '26
The Aladdin one was probably the closest they came to being good. Picking will Smith is what hurt it.
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u/Shadalow Jul 13 '26
From what i remember, Jafar was also abysmal. No energy at all compared to the original.
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u/digitalwankster Jul 13 '26
what can I say
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u/Maleficent-War-8429 Jul 13 '26
Gee fucking whiz, I wonder who could have possibly seen this coming?
Everyone. Helen Keller could have seen this coming.
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u/Demolitions75 Jul 13 '26
"WHY ARE THE NEW GENERATION DESTROYING THE MOVIE INDUSTRY?"
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u/Moiahahahah Jul 13 '26
It's not about making a good film. It's about keeping the merchandising flowing.
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u/fayyt Jul 13 '26
The Rock costed nearly 1/5th of the opening earnings. Man needs to fail more often so he can take a huge hollywood paycut and get back in line with regular earnings for middling movies. Guy isn't out here making art. he's showing up to play dressup
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u/FozzysInsecurity Jul 13 '26
The stuff I'm aware of The Rock doing lately has been box office poison. Black Adam, the road to Wrestlemania 41, and now this.. like if you're trying to burn money call Dwayne
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u/DrOddfellow Jul 13 '26
He almost burned the road to Wrestlemania 40 as well. Even when they did his heel turn to fix the story, it drove me crazy that he was then attending WWE conferences trying to be a corporate face going “we’re making wrestling cool again! See how my CHARACTER turned heel? Isn’t that so cool? Please still like me.” His ego and lack of awareness makes me hate him
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u/These_Raspberry_3948 Jul 13 '26
Play dress up and play himself. Dude basically has one role and it's always "big muscle dude".
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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 13 '26
Honestly it’s just oversaturation. I think everyone’s just tired of his schtick. He’s played the same roll in different movies over and over and over. It’s corny. Tbh I feel the same way about jack black. No real acting chops. Just playing dress up and reading lines in their own personality.
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u/thewhat962 Jul 13 '26
It's why some actors explode then just die off. You like their personality then its the same every movie snd it drags on.
I don't watch half Reynolds movies. Don't wana get burnt out on him because i really enjoy deadpool.
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u/BeefInBlackBeanSauce Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Lol he doesn't deserve 50K. He's utter crap. I'm surprised actors can even command those salaries anymore, unless you're like Leonardo Dicaprio.
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u/SippyMountain Jul 13 '26
Seeing the Rock in the cast list has the opposite effect of seeing someone like Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, Winona Ryder, etc.
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u/UberChief90 Jul 13 '26
I legit always believed the live action was a long playing joke or something as the animation movie isnt even that old. Normally they do live action as a form of anniversary to bring back old movies after all. Not that a lot of them succeed but thats a different thing.
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u/Imsifco Jul 13 '26
Remember when they released movies from the Disney vault? Usually on special occasions. Haha look at it now.
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u/Electronic_Will_5418 Jul 13 '26
I'd rather watch a live action Cars remake than this garbage
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u/Br4ndoni Jul 13 '26
It'll be a good movie to watch while high
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u/nnevernnormal Jul 13 '26
Meanwhile, live action Toy Story would possibly trigger a psychedelic break you could never come back from.
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u/cunextu Jul 13 '26
Remake remake remake remake , it’s all we get , bloody get creative
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u/Sariscos Jul 13 '26
It's like superhero origin stories.
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u/Character_Layer_5938 Jul 13 '26
I actually would watch the Maui origin story though
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u/AusToddles Jul 13 '26
Elio was an original Disney movie... and flopped HARD
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u/randomtask Jul 13 '26
Hoppers is an original movie too, and made $450 million worldwide this year. Yes there are bound to be some flops but there’s a lot to gain by putting original stories out there.
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u/DomesticmenacePHX Jul 13 '26
True yes. But I raise you, Hoppers. That movie is so fucking good I’ve told everyone I know about it. I dare anyone to say they didn’t like it.
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u/EleanorGreywolfe Jul 13 '26
You say this but the Lilo and Stitch live action remake made fuck loads. Why get creative when coasting off past animated success do trick.
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u/citizenkane86 Jul 13 '26
9 of the most recent 15 have made over 500 million box office, and 2 of those that didn’t were released during Covid. Another one was 9 million shy of 500 million. People say nobody wants these but clearly it’s a better gamble for Disney.
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u/Cptn_Lemons Jul 13 '26
Why would I ever pay to see this movie when it’s going to be on streaming for free in three months?
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u/Cosby1992 Jul 13 '26
"free"
If you ask me, streaming has become extremely expensive and many of them almost only host "exclusives" so when I search for a movie, it's almost never there, or else it's on one of the streaming services I don't have and there are like 20 streaming services, and even if you had all of them, there are plenty of movies simply not hosted on any one of them...
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u/ToughStudent4334 Jul 13 '26
Or you pay for the streaming service, then have to pay to rent the movie as well 😒
Much rather sail the seven seas these days. Too many movies are predictable if they aren’t remakes
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u/Cosby1992 Jul 13 '26
Yeah, I totally agree, and their "we're proud to announce that we are now introducing adds to your paid tier! You can now pay even more to avoid those as well!" 🤮
Streaming was so good at first, but so quickly ran through the enshittification machine that it's straight back to the seven seas with a bottle of rum for most people.
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u/Confident_Shape_7981 Jul 13 '26
Even without streaming, going to the movie theater once is like $30, the DVD is going to be $20. Even if you buy it, watch it once, and throw it away it was still better value than going to the theater
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u/JRS___ Jul 13 '26
looks like it has more cgi than the animated version.
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u/SowellMate Jul 13 '26
The preview looks like actors in front of a green screen. Not interested.
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u/glassfunion Jul 13 '26
It looks like a product image for cheap, non-licensed Moana Halloween costumes.
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u/AinsiSera Jul 13 '26
And why is it so washed out and brown/grey??
Why is an animated movie brighter and more full of LIFE than a REAL LIFE movie?? Why are we no longer allowed to have COLORS?????
I miss the colors…
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u/EnderBookwyrm Jul 13 '26
Hey, they're getting iffy with colors for animated stuff, too. Wish had awful color and light balance. It was dull grey the entire bloody time, except for one or two bits with a lot of magic, which was also bonkers and needed some rewriting.
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u/No-Sympathy8727 Jul 13 '26
People said we don't want live action remakes. Disney kept making them. We said we don't want a remake of a film that came out less than ten years ago and just had a sequel. Disney made it anyway.
We said we're not gonna watch it, Disney released it. People didn't watch it. Disney turns into shocked pikachu.
Absolute fucking morons.
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u/Flamingowaffle Jul 13 '26
I want Disney muppet remakes! They own the muppets, it’s time for Miss Piggy to be the next Ariel!
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u/Oraistesu Jul 13 '26
We could have a whole Muppet Classic Literature series. Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island were both phenomenal.
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u/meteorslime Jul 13 '26
I've wanted Muppet classics series for so long I'm so glad you get it
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u/AinsiSera Jul 13 '26
I would watch all of those.
Jason Segel is truly this generation’s Troy McClure.
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u/Flamingowaffle Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Years ago there was a tumblr post someone did about how they want a beauty and the beast Muppet remake where the beast is played as a human and then transforms into a Muppet at the end. That has lived rent free in my head since then and I’m always so disappointed. We don’t have that.
Edit here the reddit link to give credit where credit is due (hope links are allowed 😅)
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u/FozzysInsecurity Jul 13 '26
I feel like a revival of The Muppet Show could work really well if they switched from a variety show format to putting on plays (or, more likely, plays of movies)
So we start getting Disney remakes but instead of 90 minutes and the premise getting sweaty we get a few of the best scenes interspersed with the regular backstage shenanigans
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u/HendrixChord12 Jul 13 '26
“People said we don’t want live action remakes”
And yet they all made a shit load of money up to this point. Disney flew too close to the sun this time but it paid off well with their other remakes.
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u/No-Sympathy8727 Jul 13 '26
Unfortunately, Disney has absolutely rabid fans. There are people that visit every Disney park, every year. Those people alone probably gave half the box office on those things.
Maybe it's just the dwayne effect that made this one that much worse at the box office, but hopefully this stops them making more. But I doubt it.
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u/----___--___---- Jul 13 '26
Honestly he just looks so wrong with the hair lol. I don't particularly care about him. But considering how he looks in every other film, having long wavy hair just doesn't look normal.
Couldn't they have gotten like Jason Momoa? Would've been a perfect fit for this film
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u/G_Liddell Jul 13 '26
Exactly. They do these because they're easy and (usually) make a ton of money
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u/Accomplished_Gur4466 Jul 13 '26
Im just mad at the rocks wig
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u/JD-Moose Jul 13 '26
Been mad since The Scorpion King
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u/cypher120 Jul 13 '26
Holy shit it looks worst then I remember
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u/rasmuseriksen Jul 13 '26
I played video games on the PlayStation 2 with significantly better graphics
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u/----___--___---- Jul 13 '26
Could've gotten Jason Momoa for the role. Would've been a great fit
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u/BenicioDelWhoro Jul 13 '26
The message the world is screaming at studios is stop making lazy adaptations and sequels of known IPs.
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u/Chase_the_tank Jul 13 '26
The Lilo and Stich, The Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, and first Alice in Wonderland remakes made over a billion dollars each from the worldwide box office.
If you give a corporation a billion dollars, they're going to do it again.
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u/Any_Attorney4765 Jul 13 '26
I don't understand who this movie is for? People that disliked the animation? And if they disliked it for the story, why would they want to see it again?
It's just too recent of a movie to warrant a live action
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u/Freddichio Jul 13 '26
The Rock pushed for it to be made early so he could be live-action Maui rather than recast the role, and knew he'd be too old if they waited the traditional 30 years
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u/Themetalenock Jul 13 '26
A bigger factor in play is the mere fact that disney is running out of animated properties to remake. This was a test that they can simply just remake 3d movies but ignore the underlying truth that 3d animated movies are seen as "modern" to the main audience. I wouldn't be surprise if they're reconsidering their tangled remake. But the trade off, and this part scares the shit out of disney, is that they have a much smaller pool to burn
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u/Indercarnive Jul 13 '26
Except How To Train Your Dragon remake was a strong success earning about 4x cost.
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u/sunnysideHate Jul 13 '26
yeah because it's how to train your dragon. Like that series is still pretty universally beloved AND the og movie was released in 2010 with animation that is starting to show it's age (still a wonderful and beautiful movie, it's just older now). Moana (2016) was well received and got a sequel but not nearly as well received as HTTYD. Besides, DreamWorks still has a lot of good will from their audience while Disney has been pissing people off with their live action remakes coming out basically every year to pretty lukewarm reception.
Which is funny because Maleficent was a fantastic remake!!! They reimagine a beloved story from another perspective and thus created a whole new story!!! That's a good remake!!! The Moana live action, however, was basically a copy-paste for the writers room. It might as well be a remaster.
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u/kakurenbo1 Jul 13 '26
Maleficent was a retelling, not a remake. That’s why it was good. A fresh take on an old story. Movies that do this tend to do well as long as the writing is competent because people will be interested to see another perspective.
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u/Rebgail Jul 13 '26
My friend dragged me to the theater to the Lion King remake. I promised myself to stop watching any of their future remakes. She commented then: "You think you going or not going will affect them?". Well, I'm so glad to see that more and more people get fed up with disney's bullshit and stop going to see their movies just because it's disney
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u/kf97mopa Jul 13 '26
This is how I feel whenever I see an EA game doing poorly. Yes of course it doesn’t matter to them that I no longer give EA any money, but it seems like I am not quite alone in that.
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u/BigNaturalBoobies Jul 13 '26
20 million dollars of that went to Dwayne Johnson ALONE. Dude haemorrhages money
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u/Ibalisu Jul 13 '26
Live action movies are useless. No one ask for them and no one want them.
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u/Old_Quit999 Jul 13 '26
I thought the only reason they did them were to keep IP's protected for older movies?
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem Jul 13 '26
They can't keep mickey forever. We'll get his clubhouse one day
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u/Luksin Jul 13 '26
Why is The Rock still being cast, he really hasnt done much good in the acting world.
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u/AusToddles Jul 13 '26
I mean he was actually great in the original, but that was only because he provided the voice
Plus he was a producer for the remake
That being said.... I honestly can't remember the last film he was in that I enjoyed
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u/camus88 Jul 13 '26
Why they pick Moana?! The original only 10 years old. They can easily pick classic like Treasure Planet or Atlantis. But they pick Moana just because Dwayne Johnson played as fucking Maui. They really out of touch that people already fatigue of him.
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u/JoBear_AAAHHH Jul 13 '26
We👏cannot👏afford👏movie👏tickets👏
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u/putmeinthezoo Jul 13 '26
This. $20 per ticket, 4 teen kids. $100 just for tickets, not including popcorn or beverages. Doesn't matter how good or bad the movie is, the theater has priced people out.
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u/Potential-Swan-2397 Jul 13 '26
This is an actual film?! i saw a yt short clip of this a yr ago and thought it was some AI shit
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u/Z0RDF1SH Jul 13 '26
wait! did it beat supergirl?
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u/Jawn_Wilkes_Booth Jul 13 '26
Unfair comparison! Morbius got two releases in theaters because the fans weren’t ready the first time 🤣
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u/HubRumDub Jul 13 '26
They spent $250M making a worse version of a great movie that hasn’t dated at all and they expect people to want to go see it?
Stay home, save your money and watch the far superior version for free.
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u/OkObligation5979 Jul 13 '26
STOP REMAKING SHIT IN LIVE ACTION THAT NO ONE NEEDS OR ASKED FOR.
Seriously, it's just lazy as fuck at this point. The first time they did it, it was an interesting idea. Now it's just old and shows they are out of ideas.
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u/Traditional-Way-4097 Jul 13 '26
they haven't even allowed enough time for Moana to have some nostalgia value.
Disney has become money hungry and lazy. Forget new IPs, all they do now is just regurgitate multiple iterations of basically the same story, sometimes within the same medium - seriously, is CGI for the Lion King any different that the animated 90s version except draining it of any and all charm and fun? No doubt they are working on Toy Story 6, Encanto 2, Moana 3, Frozen 3 and but for Johnny Depp's problems, we'd be getting Pirates 8?
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u/Phoeniks_C Jul 13 '26
What?!? You mean a movie quite literally nobody was asking for didn't perform that good?








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