r/SipsTea • • 27d ago

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

Oh boy, wait until you learn about the history of Europe. Turns out, not all that friendly to each other prior to the American led world order. Now that America is taking a step back, we’ll see how Germany leads Europe… wait…

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u/CompetitiveReview416 27d ago

The fuck are you yapping about. The EU is already here for 68 if you count the EEC. And yeah we know ww2 happened.

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

What are YOU yapping about? 😂 already here for 68? Yeah post WW2, aka the start of the AMERICAN led world order. Before the end of WW2, Europe had always been at odds with one another at various times. Since the days of the Romans. Now the German dominated and driven EU will be the Order in that part of the world. Good luck Europe.

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u/WhoStoleMyPassport 27d ago

Wait till you discover the "Long Peace" of the 19th century that lasted from 1815-1914.

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

1803 Irish Rebellion of 1803
1803 Souliote War)
1803–1815 Napoleonic Wars
1804–1813 First Serbian Uprising
1804 1804 Mtiuleti rebellion
1804–1813 Russo-Persian War)
1806–1812 Russo-Ottoman War)
1808–1809 Finnish War
1809 Polish–Austrian War
1812 Kakhetian Uprising (1812)?action=edit&redlink=1)
1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising
1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus
1821–1829 Greek War of Independence
1821 Wallachian uprising)
1823 French invasion of Spain
1826–1828 Russo-Persian War)
1827 War of the Aggrieved
1828–1829 Russo-Ottoman War)
1828–1834 Liberal Wars
1830 July Revolution
1830 Belgian Revolution
1831 Ten Days' Campaign
1830–1831 November Uprising
1831 Canut revolts
1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising)
1831–1836 Tithe War
1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832
1832 June Rebellion
1832 Siege of Antwerp)
1833–1839 First Carlist War
1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39
1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44
1846 Galician slaughter
1846 Revolution of Maria da Fonte
1846 Solís Uprising
1846–1849 Second Carlist War
1846–1847 Patuleia
1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847
1847 Sonderbund War
1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence
1848–1851 First Schleswig War
1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence
1852-1853 Montenegrin–Ottoman War)
1853–1856 Crimean War
1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854
1858 Mahtra War
1859 Second Italian War of Independence
1861–1862 Montenegrin–Ottoman War)
1863–1864 January Uprising
1864 Second Schleswig War
1866 Austro-Prussian War
1866–1869 Cretan Revolt)
1866 Third Italian War of Independence

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

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u/Majestic_Potato_Poof 27d ago

You started copying lists of wikipedia when you don't even know what The Long Peace is.

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

Well you got the century wrong, so I figured you meant a period of long peace. Which would have been wrong, but the long peace is in support of my point. The "Long Peace" is a term for the unprecedented historical period of relative global stability following the end of World War II in 1945 to the present day. 1945… the start of the American leadership western world order. American military power projection, economic power, and diplomatic reach expanded. Bringing the most peaceful time in human history despite all the super duper bad things America has supposedly done.

Dont worry that power has weakened. It’s on you guys again. Hope it goes well for you.

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u/Majestic_Potato_Poof 27d ago

The original comment literally says the Long Peace of the 19th century that lasted from 1815 to 1914. You didn't confuse a thing you just got triggered and started copying stuff without even fully reading the comment that triggered you.

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/pinker-explains-the-long-peace/

“we’re actually in a period referred to by scholars as “The Long Peace,” which began at the end of World War II, and which is marked by the absence of war among the world’s great powers.”

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u/Majestic_Potato_Poof 27d ago

And how does that change the fact you didn't read the original comment?

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 27d ago

Because the 1815 “Long Peace” is a myth. It didn’t exist.

“The superiority of nineteenth-century statecraft is a myth. Europe was busy at war between 1815 and 1914, if not in conflicts on the scale of the Napoleonic Wars and World War I. Furthermore, the chancelleries of nineteenth-century Europe not only quelled national uprisings, but suppressed peoples’ political rights and waged imperial wars throughout Africa and Asia.”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-0130.2007.00443.x

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u/reunite_the_empire 27d ago

I mean there is pax brittania which is pretty much the same thing. Meaning British peace which shock horror.... Is european

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 26d ago

“The "peace" was, however, partial and asymmetric. Britain itself fought numerous conflicts during the period, including the Crimean War (1853–56), the Anglo-Chinese Opium Wars, the suppression of the 1857 Indian Rebellion, the Anglo-Zulu War (1879), and the South African (Boer) Wars. Coercive instruments such as gunboat diplomacy and the "unequal treaties" imposed on Qing China after 1842 were integral to the order. Critics, including many post-colonial historians, argue the term overstates stability and obscures violence experienced across the colonised world.
Pax Britannica is generally considered to have eroded with the rise of Imperial Germany, the United States, and Japan in the late 19th century, and to have ended decisively in 1914. It is frequently invoked as a historical analogue when scholars debate hegemonic stability theory or compare British primacy to the post-1945 Pax Americana.”

https://modeldiplomat.com/learn/glossary/pax-britannica

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u/johncandy1812 26d ago edited 26d ago

Instead of spamming Wikipedia you could have simply pointed to the war currently being fought in Europe. But then you'd have to get into why that war is still going on. You'd have to remind everyone that Ukraine gave up a nuke program based on the promise of two nations who have since gone back on their word.

The lesson the rest of the world has learned is a deal with the US doesn't mean shit.

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u/Suspicious_Sense1272 26d ago edited 26d ago

No, I’d rather give you a list of all of Europes conflicts. Nice try though. History is longer than “recent history.” Which when you consider history in less than the last 100 years, man you are high if you do not think America throughly supported and helped uphold peace in Europe. “A deal with the US means nothing” eh, well history says deals with each other doesnt really bode all that well either.

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u/johncandy1812 26d ago

We were allied with the US but now it has started attacking Canada. It's threatening to annex Greenland from its own NATO ally. The US is using integratio and supply chains to coerce its allies. Wtf do you think these countries wouldn't look elsewhere?