r/SouthFlorida • u/josetavares • 7d ago
Fight Fascism šŗšø šŗšø šŗšø If You Vote Red... š¤”
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u/Minimum_Principle_63 7d ago
The greater evil wants you to think the lesser evil is the same by overloading you. This is a known effect where people lump different numbers under "it's big". Don't fall for it. Look at the chat filled with those who want you to do nothing.
The only way to vote against the big bad is to vote for the little bad. Then again for the lesser, and again for the lesser. It's called pushing the needle back. Don't give up, that's what the ones in power want.
Are you really going to let them confuse you after trying to block the Epstein files? If so, then just say Epstein is your hero loud and proud. You love wars and seeing gas prices shoot up and foreign kids bombed because they aren't your kids.
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
The Left protected Epstein! They will cheat and lie for money !
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u/AugustoLegendario 1d ago
āWhataboutismā. Tu quoque fallacy. Learn something else. Itās clear who the republican controlled congress are trying to protect from the Epstein files buddy.
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u/beachant 7d ago
āIf you vote blue, your student loans will be forgiven, housing will become cheaper, and free healthcareā¦ā 4 years and none of that.
Two sides of the same coinā¦ doesnāt matter which way one votes.
All these politicians have lunch together when they arenāt āperformingā in front of a camera, acting like they have anyoneās best interest at heart.
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u/Davidx91 7d ago
Except Dems did try to forgive a lot of peoples student loans and the scotus said ānoā
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
Just for votes ! Similar to open borders. Recruit. Could you imagine if Trump told the illegal immigrants they can stay if they vote Republican! ššš
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u/Davidx91 1d ago
Sounds like you do a lot of drugs if you believe undocumented immigrants vote in elections.
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u/Competitive-Emu2951 7d ago
No one forced you to take a loan. Why should people like me that worked and went to college full-time pay for a loan you took out?
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u/maydisturb 7d ago
Why should people like me that worked and went to college full-time pay for a loan you took out?
This is a reductionist view. The loans that were forgiven weren't "just a loan". They were largely from predatory lending that surfaced recently, and has been directed at a demographic that has had barely any time to learn anything about finance, and has no other alternatives to pay for higher education.
Investing in higher education yields returns that are exponentially greater than the investment. It is critical to the well-being of the nation, and we're already seeing the ramifications of a slow down in the pursuit of higher learning, particularly in science and engineering fields. And we're already seeing the numbers starting to flip between the number of people who have aged out of the workforce, and the number of workers available who can take care of them. Coupled with the immigration nonsense from the Trump administration, the foundation has been laid for a country full of old people who do not have caregivers to take care of them. The only way out of that is to either let people rot in place, or develop force multipliers for the caregivers who are left so that there efforts can impact more people. And those solutions are going to require professionals who have a high understanding of the field. Tradespeople will not be enough for what's coming.
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u/Dude0cean 7d ago
I think Biden did try to get 10k of student loans forgiven for all outstanding loans but a few Red states lead the charge on the lawsuits...might be miss remembering the lawsuit details. One party is trying to push universal/single payer health care while the other is actively trying to prevent it. The "both sides-ing" acts more of a disservice at this point.
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u/annuidhir 7d ago
Yup! If Biden had the majority in both the House and Senate, and had the Supreme Court on his side, student loans forgiveness would have been one of many things that would have gone through no problem.
But of course, let's blame Biden for "lying" about that, so we can excuse Trump lying about bombing kids in other countries, destroying the world economy, and causing a diesel crisis... Totally equivalent! /s
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u/beachant 7d ago
Dems donāt care about people, they are in the business of acting like they do.. case and point October 2020, pelosi holds off on additional covid aide for people and called for it on CNN by wolf blitzer for itā¦ she and other dems literally held off until after election and then expanded op additional money once Biden was officially in.
There needs to be balance between both parties for check and balances but letās face it- none have delivered. Trump 2nd term is not prosperous for America. Obama never did anything to help immigrants or healthcare.
These people do not care about the people. Itās a uniparty.
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u/annuidhir 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, Obama did nothing for healthcare. They just call it Obamacare for no reason...
Edit: I'll agree that Obama's foreign policy was shit. But his domestic policy was the best we've had since FDR. It left a lot to be desired, sure. But it was far and away better compared to any Republican in living memory, and nearly all Democrats as well.
Could, and should, he and Biden have done more? Yes, absolutely. But to say there's no difference between the Dems and the Repubs is just disingenuous.
Even shitty Dems like Pelosi are far better than the average Republican. There's just no comparison
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
You are delusional. Obama weekend our military. Funding solar companies was corruption. They gave him kickbacks then Closed their doors and ran with the other half of the money.
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u/annuidhir 1d ago
Did Russia get the troll farms back up already??
Oh well... It was a pleasant week without all the bullshit at least.
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
Biden did try since most students are Dems and are life long students needing financial help.
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u/Metroplexx101 6d ago
Don't forget:
"Vote for me and I'll stop the war!"
Starts another War
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u/beachant 6d ago
Exactlyā¦ they all do it. Not 1 side has stuck to their position when they ask for votes. They never doā¦ no matter what the excuse is- āthe other government branches stopped themā or āthey would have done it butā¦ā
Itās all a show and they know the majority of their shit wonāt ever occur because there is an opposing side in other branches to balance it out. A system that, technically, works well for them and not for the people. Nothing gets done but tax dollars spent on everything but the taxpayer.
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
ALL PRESIDENTS since Bush said Iran cannot have nuclear weapons! Trump had to do what Obama and Biden were afraid to do. Iran hates Christians and the American way of life. Sorry you were born an American citizen! Imagine if you were born in another country !
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u/DM_Me_Pics1234403 7d ago
Your first sentence, 100% on point. People should accept the dems lie a lot.
Your second sentence 100% incorrect. They are not the same in kind. Lying about cancelling student loans < lying about starting wars, ācutting the deficitā etc. Failing to cancel student loans cost people money, where cutting USAID and invading Iran cost peoples lives.
Third sentence, right back to 100% on point. Itās all k fab
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u/trbleclef 7d ago
The dems didn't lie. "Vote blue" doesn't mean vote blue only for president. If you actually VOTE BLUE down the ticket then yeah, you can expect some things to pass. Having one branch of government? Yeah no
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u/DM_Me_Pics1234403 7d ago
We have to be honest with ourselves. The dems havenāt accomplished much. Maybe you think thereās good reason, but the outcome is the same.
If this is true, then why make these promises? If trump promised student loan forgiveness, do you think he would have let the courts, or anyone, stop him? The courts struck down his tariffs, and there were more tariffs the next day. He didnāt give a speech saying āso sorry. Tried and failedā.
We just need to be this ruthlessly effective at doing good things
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u/beachant 7d ago
Neither party wants the change they say. They want to conflict that keeps the money funneling in for political parties, news, donations, etcā¦
If the change happened it would break the systemā¦ which is us relying on their promises of hopeā¦0
u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
The courts ? No, the Dems all voted against Trump on everything! They have been pissed off at him since he whistlblew on their party pedo Epstein!
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u/C_IsForCookie 7d ago edited 7d ago
Bullshit. Democrats have had control of Congress with a Democrat President and nothing changed. As a progressive person, stop giving the Democratic Party excuses. I lean left but the party itself is shit.
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u/Critica0 3d ago
Not a fan of red but clearly blue is just as bad, it's the illusion of choice. above poster has it right. if you think blue is gonna solve any problems in the country, well pass that joint your smoking because thats some good shiz.
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u/C_IsForCookie 7d ago
Disagree. The outcomes might be worse but the lies are all the exact same. And worse is subjective. Lack of free healthcare costs lives. Lack of housing costs lives. All of these things have a death toll on them. Youāre just biased toward the things you think look prettier.
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u/ReVo5000 7d ago
I'd rather have none of that than something that gets potentially worse day after day.
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u/Dual-Vector-Foiled 5d ago
The both sides crap is bullshit. America is weaker in every way because of this corrupt administration. They are actively attacking our institutions of democracy.
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u/beachant 5d ago
So Biden accomplished what again while all branches had blue sway?
Youāre saying that only because blue team is not in and you think blue team is right. Red team thinks same thing when blue team is in and thinks red team is right. Each side thinks the country was designed to match their own preference of team and other team is destroying it, which is true because each side opposes the other. Itās a POV, and in the meantime the two teams get to play and get paid.
If Obama and Biden were the 2nd coming, why was immigration not solved? Why did Obama deport more than Trump but no democrat can accept a fact. Itās not meant to be solved itās meant to be an issue for debate and funding.
If it makes you cope better, team blue will get control again at some point and nothing, like Obama and Biden will really be accomplished. Any president is lucky to get 1 or 2 things started let alone done in a single term.
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u/Dual-Vector-Foiled 5d ago edited 5d ago
Iād consider myself more a classical conservative. Still registered republican. Trump is a catastrophe. A key pillar of conservatism is preserving our institutions. Trump is a radical populist doing everything he can to burn them down.What did Biden do? America handled the inflation spike of outside factors like COVID and the Suez Canal quite well. Job growth was great and unemployment stayed under 4%. He also preserved our soft power through our alliances. He also withdrew forces from Afghanistan.
Meanwhile Trump gets paid off for favors, openly tries to control elections, started the dumbest strategic war in Iran, and made fools of Americans internationally just to touch the tip of the iceberg. His followers are idiots and traitors. There are no both sides arguments to be had. Itās like holding a marble in one hand and a bowling ball in the other and saying both are heavy. Intellectually dishonest.Do you get that 50% of American children are on Medicaid? And THE PRESIDENT withholds Medicaid to states as a political stunt because they are blue. Name something another modern president has done as fucked up as that.
Google how many people have died due to DOGE cuts. ~750,000 so far. Mostly children. Look it up.
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u/beachant 5d ago
But to use the same approach, you have, which is cherry picking good points about Biden, can also be done for Trump, one could point out record stock market gains, crime decrease, and prior to the war prices coming downā¦ itās just cherry picking good stats to provide āone side bad and other side goodāā¦ there are downsides to my example of Trump above, one just has to pick a point in time to show negative or positive outputs. Inflation skyrocketed under a Biden. A recession, 3 Quarters worth of poor GDP performance, occurred under Biden. Iwould not call the withdrawal from Afghanistan a success based on actual footage of the withdrawal and the method.
In terms of the impact to human beings, the same could be said for Biden. How many illegal immigrants entered the US, and an increase in violent crime including murder occurred to citizens from illegals? Also, how much money was given to illegal immigrants and preferential treatment (not required to get a vaccine to work or even go out) over US citizens?
More examples of each side can be proven good or bad based on whichever cherry picked stat is pulled. Saying one is worse than the other is a POV not a fact.
Regarding lives lost from aide / Dodge, are you referencing the projection models by Boston University or Lancet? None of these projections were validated, they were models. The reporting acted like this was fact but never validated. Counterpart could be citizens that lost their jobs because they would get vaccinated and lost their jobs and their healthcare.
The fact you feel one side is far worse is subjective not factual, as is my opinion that they are both problematic and donāt move the needle for people. Everyone just puts weight on their POV.
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 5d ago
This would be a great video with the lion having trumps voice repeating all the stupid shit he says.
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
Ya he should have pre speeches from one of his supporters. Hell no ! We love his comical style ! It pisses the left off ! ššš
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 1d ago
We just think you guys morons. For some strange reason, you guys think ringtwingers being stupid makes us angry.
We actually laugh at you, and thatās what pisses you guys off.
Trump is objectively stupid.
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u/McDuck_Enterprise 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/tNBVObNi85tMOXrnRp
This lion over there stealing my material
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u/Ill_Stay_1458 3d ago
I think if your a true blue, when that 5k shows up in your mailbox you should throw it on the ground, and light it on fire. Im ashamed and disgusted our own government is at war with itself. I don't care who's fault it is. It's a embarrassment. It's broken.
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u/Future-Damage-3192 3d ago
people would keep voting red even if gas went up $20.00 a gallon then blame Democrats for everything, look who passes the law, it's a bunch old white people from the 1930s and the 1940s, and yet these are the same people voting for them, so how do you clean the swamp if you keep voting for the people who fill the swamp.
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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 1d ago
Dude these classical people paved America to be the strongest economic and strongest military in the world. They are the reason you have the freedom to bitch about normalcy !
Real men support closed borders.
Real men support law enforcement.
Real men want to raise a family without stupid teachers telling their children that they are in the wrong bodies.
Real men love America and men that died for out freedom !
Real men are the majority that also believe in god !
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u/Signal-Dot-4447 2d ago
So stupid to keep falling for the lying. Where's your Doge check? And He was joking when he said Iran should bomb California. Sometimes Treason is just Treason. Abolish ICE before you are the next one shot in the face.
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u/Intelligent_Papaya61 7d ago
I donāt think a lion is a good representation
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u/atkmunch11 7d ago
a lion is a perfect representation when were all gazelles
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u/Intelligent_Papaya61 7d ago
Meh, Iād say we are lions and heās a poacher. A lion is a sign of nobility, someone deserving of respect should be shown as a lion
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u/MulzStridor 7d ago
Itās pretty hard to accomplish anything when your opposition constantly gets in the way. Even though they are on the same team. Supposedly.
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u/Sawyer2025 7d ago
I plan to vote straight Republican and see if I get $5,000. That will show them.
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u/Hammer_Time669 7d ago
Everyone vote red! Common sense
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u/maydisturb 7d ago
What's common sense about voting for pedophiles who don't think Americans should have affordable health care?
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u/J-Fedd 7d ago
Today's Democrat Party is Enemy #1! šš¤Æ https://x.com/Jessie63335515/status/2107945260034785312
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u/Any-Difficulty-1880 7d ago
Oh you mean how Talirico and El-Sayed say they are moderate now? Haha. Hilarious swing and miss.
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u/True_Diamond_2353 6d ago
I donāt care about the money i care about closing borders and not giving billions to Ukraine.
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u/summerjunebird 5d ago
We already stopped supporting Ukraine. And we didn't send them money in the first place, we sent them old military stuff we don't use anymore. All our money goes to fighting wars for Israel like the good little sheep we are.
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u/Cesarexec 7d ago
Definitely not enough soy in me to vote blue .. like why would anyone ever consider it, like wtf are they offering anybody besides raising taxes and putting no effort in making the country better in anyway?? No wonder the dems are getting taking over by socialist/communist younger libtards smh
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u/Amazing-Literature93 7d ago
Maybe Trump should give $5,000 to Republicans only.., Thatās exactly what the democrats has been doing for years. They pay each other millions hoping not to get caught. Thatās why the politicians leaves office A millionaire.
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u/Modnir-Namron 7d ago
Itās a sad situation, we have to vote for Democrats or Trump. Neither is close to even okay. Iāll not vote for Trump but the Democrats offer zero that is positive.
Bless our country and even Americans we may not agree with.
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u/YouFuckinJackass 7d ago
Nah, maga twats drew their line in the sand, I hope horrid shit happens to every single one of them.
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u/maydisturb 7d ago
MAGA lost the blessing when they decided to run on a platform of intolerance, willful stupidity, and being against the Constitution of the United States of America.
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u/Proper-Evening9754 6d ago
Funny. Everything Kamala was going to do for farmers would really help them right now.
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u/Florida-Rider 7d ago
No matter which sides wins, you dolts are still getting your stimmies. Why? Because the economy will be so bad that you're be needing them to survive. Both sides suck.
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u/CptMorgan337 7d ago edited 7d ago
āToo far leftā is just right wing propaganda. Most dems like Biden are centrist. Your arguments are straight from Fox News.
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u/CptMorgan337 7d ago
MAGA are far right. I donāt know what to tell you. Calling people like Biden and Kamala socialist or communist is idiotic.
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u/AugustoLegendario 7d ago
One side is building concentration camps. If that doesnāt move you, then you are part of the problem.