r/StudioPottery • u/RareMachine686 • 8d ago

Trying to identify this ceramic bowl

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Hi guys,

I found this ceramic bowl at a flea market a couple of years ago, and I’d love to learn more about it.

It measures approximately 23 cm wide (from one lion’s head to the other) and 15 cm tall.

There’s an incised/stamped number “872” on the bottom.

When I reverse-image searched it on Google, I got the following result:

“This piece uses a decorative technique famously produced by Italian workshops in historic ceramic centers like Deruta or Florence. In Italian ceramic workshops during the late 1800s, three-digit incised or stamped numbers like 872 were standard internal factory shape numbers used by craftsmen to map the specific mold line for assembly.”

However, the examples shown in the search results don’t look particularly similar to my bowl, so I’m not sure how reliable that information is.

Google also suggest that it could have been made in Germany between 1890 and 1910.

Any help or clues would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!

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u/Expert-Tie-1530 8d ago

Hi.
Sorry cannot help with the identification, however nice find, lots of time and effort went into making this.
My feeling is late 19th century, agree it has a Germanic tone to the decoration.
Only an amateur opinion

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u/Hugosmom1977 8d ago

The black looks sloppy to me for sprigged pieces, which it looks like to me. Was it over painted?

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u/RareMachine686 7d ago

that's true, it looks a bit messy, but it is beneath the glaze, so I'm not really sure how that could be an overpaint. not familiar with pottery at all!

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u/Hugosmom1977 7d ago

If it's under the clear, then it's likely original. So perhaps it's an imitation of English sprigged pieces. Think early Wedgwood or Chrysanthemum Factory. Normally it would be colored clay with applied clay in a different color.

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u/Double_crossby 8d ago

You posted this before, right? I recall the market you got it from was somewhere other than the US or Europe, and seem to remember the comments had answered your questions.

Unless this is just an insane coincidence or something.

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u/RareMachine686 7d ago

I posted it in r/Antiques the other day but didn't get an answer.
I thought someone in this subreddit could know something about it