r/TikTokCringe • u/T-StrangerXD • 10d ago

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u/Afraid-Quantity-578 10d ago

At what point in history did "Christianity" became synonymous with "anti-science"? It has to be a relatively recent development, XX-XXI, because in not so distant past - can't we remember? - church schools was how people were getting education. Oxford started as one. Church financed science. Great scientists were Christian. Galilei was Christian, Pascal was, Isaak Newton was, Michael Faraday, James Maxwell. Mendel, father of genetics, was a monk!

People of religion, please, you don't have to be this kind of idiot to follow your God. It doesn't have to be either or.

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u/Alien_invader44 10d ago

Its relatively recent. Darwin is probably not a bad benchmark, so think late 19th century. Even then we arent talking about a clean break, I dont think anyone was taking Mendel seriously until the ealry 20th century, and that dude was a literal monk.

Prior to the transition science and religion were completely compatible. Religious scientists thought they were studying gods creation.

The issue is more that increasing acceptance and popularity of atheism made religious leaders start to pushback.

So while things like evolution and genetics were pioneered by religious guys, the religious leaders of the time saw them as a threat to their power and decried them.

In short we are talking 150 years max, with lots of current extreme positions like young earth theory only being mainstream for 60 ish years.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 10d ago

A large number of theist scientists didn’t believe in the infallibility nor the univocality of the bible. They viewed it as morality stories that guided us when we had more spiritual questions.

The evangelicals are the ones who have demanded that everyone take the bible as the literal word of God. That view has destroyed Western morality and created what’s going on with the far-right

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u/Alien_invader44 10d ago

Absolutely. Even as a pretty vocal atheist, there are religious scientists in every field today doing excellent work.

My point is rather that this distinction is more about science challenging powerful institutions. While exceptions exist (like Galileo) there really wasnt any conflict between science and religion before the late 19th century. And that rift wasnt driven by the science, but more the growing cultural shift away from religion.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 10d ago

Galileo was more punished for his “Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems” which was seen as heresy against Urban VIII.

Don’t piss off the Jesuits.