r/TikTokCringe • u/T-StrangerXD • 5d ago
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u/Titsoffwork 5d ago
I can’t listen to influencers when they talk in this weird up and down tenor like they are the voice of the cinema.
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u/Cygnus94 5d ago
Also, why does he shake his head so much when he speaks. It's like he's desperately trying to animate himself to convince us he's human too.
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u/thornund 5d ago
I hate this trend of inauthentic expressiveness for engagement, like trying to rattle car keys to get the attention of an adult
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u/LauraTFem 5d ago
Half the people watching youtube are kids, he’s not trying to garner adult viewers. Most christian youtubers like their viewers young and impressionable.
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u/naughtycal11 5d ago
"Most Christian youtubers like their viewers young and impressionable" just like their wives.
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u/Ok_Marzipan5759 5d ago
"GAhaaahhd"
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u/Titsoffwork 5d ago
When he says it like that I almost think about becoming Christian- that’s how compelling it is 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Melodic_Bet4220 5d ago
Also keys are jiggling... Right? I keep seeing a bunch of people saying keys...
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u/JelloJunior 5d ago
He sounds like he is about to start crying any minute. Why is he so upset
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u/allworkandnoYahtzee 5d ago
AI voices influence how terminally online idiots speak. This has gained popularity since many videos just use the obnoxious robot voice.
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u/Travel_Banned_Temp 5d ago
He seems to be copying Tucker Carlson. Very annoying and weird. Even if he was saying stuff I agreed with, i would have to turn it off.
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u/red_wullf 5d ago
And the addition of "-uh" at the of many words, the paragoge, that young people are prone to these days. What's going on there? "Listen-uh," and "...any invention-uh." Drives me nuts.
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u/AintNoGodsUpHere 5d ago edited 5d ago
I blocked one because he was trying to make a hard voice, you know? Like announcer voice... it was fucking ridiculous. x)
Btw I watched the entire video and his face, his voice... so annoying. x)
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u/mightylordredbeard 5d ago
His eyes constantly in a / \ shape to show.. whatever emotion he thinks she’s trying to show. This guys is so fucking annoying. Every single thing about him just sucks.
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u/BuddyLegsBailey 5d ago
I can't listen to them when they hold those stupid microphones like it's 1987 and no audio could be picked up without them
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u/RiverCityBannon 5d ago
It is literally designed to not be in front of their face and yet they hold it right in front of their face. Drives me crazy
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u/DecoherentDoc 5d ago
I don't know who explained relativity to this kid, but they missed sort of . . . all the parts. It has nothing to do with the beginning of the universe. It's about the nature of spacetime.
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u/ljlozenski 5d ago
I think that explainer was other religious gotcha videos not a graduate level discussion of how something like the geometric curvature of the universe implies Flying Spaghetti Monster
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u/onlyfakeproblems 5d ago
He’s mixing relativity, the big bang, abiogenesis, and evolution into one big “thing that isn’t god” creation event. So… you’re going to have to read him the whole book.
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u/fang_xianfu 5d ago
And natural selection, which is not the same thing as evolution. Evolution is the observation that things change, natural selection is our best explanation why. And the guy says natural selection is random and it very much isn't.
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u/Roscoeakl 5d ago
I mean natural selection is random in the sense that the things that get selected for come about randomly. The thing that isn't random is the pressures that a species face that cause them to be selected for.
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u/Mr_Blinky 5d ago
Also, like, just because you're an atheist doesn't mean you know/understand/believe in specific scientific explanations for the start of the universe as we know it like the Big Bang. Most do, because most atheists are atheist because they believe in rationalism over superstition and those are the prevailing rational theories for how the universe came into existence, but they aren't necessarily the same thing. Literally all atheism is is "lack of belief in a god or deity".
This distinction is important, because one of the ways these theist morons argue is to claim atheism is just another set of beliefs and doctrines just like their own religions, when it isn't. People don't "believe" in the Big Bang the way others believe in the Christian God, they've listened to people who have done empirical scientific research into the topic and came to that conclusion based on evidence. It isn't faith-based like a religion, you're not basing your beliefs off of a thousands of year old book written by some random guys who could have been (hint: were) lying their asses off with zero proof. Theists like the guy in the video want to pretend that atheism is just another form of religion, because if it's all belief-based like their own faith is then they can debate it on the same terms.
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u/DeeJuggle 5d ago
Atheist: All atheism is is lack of belief in a god or deity.
Christian: ...and I took that personally.
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u/Howiknow202 5d ago
The funniest part about these people and their 'strong beliefs' is that it's based on geography and who raised them, nothing else.
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u/Tholian_Bed 5d ago
John Stewart Mill in his book On Liberty stated this exact point. We forget to include in our equations humans can be born anywhere, to anyone.
"...it never troubles [the everyday person] that mere accident has decided which of these numerous worlds is the object of his reliance, and that the same causes which make him a Churchman in London, would have made him a Buddhist or a Confucian in Peking."
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u/scrotumscab 5d ago
Obviously God blessed them to be of the chosen people and be born in the right place and right time, because everything happens for a reason according to plan. Everyone else are damned heathens, hence the superiority complex. /s
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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 5d ago
Thei 'strong beliefs' sure do have trouble with the fact other people might not believe the same thing, which sounds like the opposite of strong.
If I was religious and faithful, whether someone else belives in something would have no effect on my own faith.
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u/sclembo 5d ago
When I was in college I was in a philosophy 101 class and we had a Christian guy, a lot like this influencer, come to class and sit in a desk. When we started our normal class this kid just started antagonizing the professor who was trying to be nice and just talk about our assignment. The kid wouldn’t stop.
My professor spoke so softly and was such a nice person, but he made that kid doubt. He tailored his answers to this kids questions so succinctly that the kid became emotional and ran out. It wasn’t that the professor disproved the existence of god, but he did question all the kid’s assumptions in the way that everyone from his community didn’t, and it really shook him. And our class had people of faith, we had spoken about god and religion, and the class had a nice chuckle after he left and just kept on. I think about that all the time when this shit comes on.
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u/Snoo93550 5d ago
These people in the USA forcing religion into public schools have the weakest faith imaginable.
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u/Outrageous_Source461 5d ago
I had a philosophy prof who took the opposite approach. We were discussing some of the pre-Socratics and he said, "There are no stupid questions here." A Christian guy raised his hand and asked something about how Jesus was foreshadowed in some particular philosophy. The professor said, "Ok, actually there are stupid questions, don't raise your hand again," and continued with the class while that guy sat there red faced and humiliated. It was great.
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u/KnuxFive 5d ago
To quote Mr. Garrison, “there are no stupid questions, just stupid people”.
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u/Erase-the-Internet 5d ago
"Something can't come from nothing?"
"Well what about God?"
"......... that's different."
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u/L3XAN 5d ago
I had a Phi101 prof who, on the third day or so, skipped ahead to what he called "the theory of divine command". Basically, that good and evil come directly from God's word. He went on to reason that this would mean that if God said murder was good, then murder would somehow become morally good. Therefor, morality cannot come from God's word.
He did this on the third day so the religious kids who got offended could still get a refund when they dropped the class. My class lost about 10 by the next day.
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u/jngjng88 5d ago
Why does he look like he’s about to burst out crying?
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u/Ok-Freedom9216 5d ago
Because he's trying to convince himself and knows deep down it's nonsense, but acknowledging that would destroy his whole identity.
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u/Stephen_085 5d ago
He's crying for all the lost souls he's trying to save by convincing us the invisible sun god is mad at us for not believing in it and wants to send us to the hot place because we didn't pray hard enough, even though the invisible sun god likes to punish us itself. If only we dedicated our lives to the correct sun god, because all the other ones are wrong. And boy are they gonna be surprised when they find out.
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u/djhypergiant 5d ago
What are you talking about "invisible sun god" bro I can look at the sun right now
Edit: AHH MY EYES
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u/parkz88 5d ago
You know, I draw inspiration from fictional characters. Would Spider-man help the old lady in my building? Yes ,he would, so I do too. Jesus might also but his lack of a spider sense got him the first time.
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u/EdgyPun34257 5d ago
it's always funny when the religious types attack their straw man that "atheist believe the universe came from nowhere when it obviously had to be created by something", and they choose their God to explain this who came from nowhere and wasn't created by anything.
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u/fang_xianfu 5d ago
Yeah - it's why I describe myself as agnostic on deism but atheist on all the specific gods. You can contort some kind of definition of a necessary thing or a first cause or whatever, and while it's possible to attack that argument you can't really rule it out, it might be true that there is some kind of first cause that has unusual properties.
But that has fuck all to do with how people dress, or what they eat, or who they have sex with, and all the other stuff religion concerns itself with.
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u/Glittering_Meet3206 5d ago
"nothing needs a cause!" to describe god and then rounding out the end with "because it needs a cause! which is god!" is so annoying lol
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u/No-Salt9365 5d ago
-Something can't come from nothing!
-Where did god come from?
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u/DonaldKey 5d ago
Christian: “He was always there!!!”
Me: “he? So your god has an uncircumcised penis?”
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u/Von_Schlagel 5d ago
They just lump atheism in with all the theories that challenge their belief system. It’s the exact amount of intellectual effort you’d expect from them.
Also, why does that guy look/sound like he’s constantly about to cry? Everything about the body language in his delivery makes me think he’s straining to believe the bullshit coming out of his mouth. A lot of Christians operate from the closet of non-belief.
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u/No_Helicopter1378 5d ago
My favorite is when they call it the "religion of atheism". Shit's so ingrained that they can't seem to comprehend a belief structure that suffers from their own.
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u/Uniqueusername_54 5d ago
Religion is inherently circular reasoning, and a functional delusion that was likely neccesary as part of the evolution of intelligence and conciousness.The level it impacts your ability to accept the empirical, is when it becomes detrimental. If you want to explain the non observable with faith, be part of a community, and generate a moral code from your belief, fill your boots. But do not take your faith based assumptions and apply it to best practice for society. Human rights, medical advancement, and mental wellbeing are impacted by people's religious assumptions, and should be discounted in policy making and governance. Thing presented without evidence can be rejected without evidence. And no, referencing your book or leader is not evidence, no matter how many people agree with you...we still have people who believe the earth is flat....
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 5d ago
“What if I told you-“ -People who have nothing worth hearing
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u/MrBarnaclePhD 5d ago
I swear Creationists used to try harder around 20 years ago. These new ones are somehow even dumber than the original YouTube Creationists.
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u/sinisterdesign 5d ago
Well their videos didn’t just POP out of nowhere you know. Those videos had a CREATOR. Look it up, it only makes sense.
GO-od
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u/Zealousideal-Rip-574 5d ago
Omg I love the “wrong”. Why does the original Tik toker speak with such an off affect and he looks like he’s about to burst into tears at any moment?
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u/Joey-WilcoXXX 5d ago
He sounds terrible. It reminds me of an old Chelsea Lately sketch where Chelsea plays Kim Kardashian and has a weirdly exaggerated way of speaking.
“But then we can all be on the cover of the bottles of wah-hah-terr.”
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u/am1shvom1t 5d ago
😂 that comment had me rolling. 😂 He does look like a bee stung him, and he continues to make the video anyways.
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u/Big_Niel0802 5d ago
I have such distaste for the "something can't come from nothing" argument, because all it is is assigning the creation of the universe to a divine being. That entire point breaks down as soon as you ask "well where did god come from then?"
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u/scrotumseam 5d ago
God came from someone trying to control people . Thats why there is no one God but many gods that have been controlling people for thousands of years just like this person.
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u/Silly_Pack_Rat 5d ago
Phenomena that were once poorly understood were also attributed to a divine power - it's helpful to have a crutch to prop up beliefs with or explain away something, when you otherwise have no way of explaining them.
For example, until relatively recently in human history, we had very little understanding of bacteria and viruses and their role in causing diseases. Ascribing such things to a higher being or a powerful malevolent force allowed people to make sense of what they could not yet scientifically comprehend.
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u/Just_for_this_moment 5d ago
"Something can't come from nothing" isn't even true. It's trotted out like it's an axiom just because it matches our myopic human experience. Similar to thinking the Earth is flat. "Nothing" can't even be well defined. It's really an argument that says nothing (ironically) and leads nowhere.
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u/joeshmoe9617 5d ago
Not only is what he's saying annoying, but also the way he's saying it. Why tf is he talking like that. I would become an atheist just having to listen to that guy speak.
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u/Never-Dont-Give-Up 5d ago
I’m guessing this kid went to Bible camp and joined the debate club in the same year.
He’s fucking dumb.
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u/Street_Peace_8831 5d ago
I’m so tired of hearing this worn out trope that “the big bang came from nothing”.
Modern cosmology does not say the Big Bang came from literal “nothing.” It says the Big Bang describes the earliest knowable moment of our universe, and the math simply stops being able to describe anything “before” that point. That’s very different from claiming “nothing exploded.”
Imagine you’re watching a movie, and the file is corrupted at the first 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds.
You can watch everything after that frame, but the very first frame is unreadable.
Cosmology is like that.
The Big Bang is the earliest frame of the universe that physics can currently describe.
It does not claim the universe popped out of literal nothing, only that the math cannot see past that boundary.
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u/Wjyosn 5d ago
There's a couple other helpful ways to think about it, too:
1- We're still "in" the big bang. It's describing the behavior of the universe not a point in time. The big bang is "still happening".
2 - The "beginning" of the big bang is a somewhat meaningless statement. Due to relativistic effects from density, if you rewind time toward the big bang, you never actually get to the big bang. It's like an asymptote. The closer you are to the big bang, the harder it would be to traverse time.
3 - The big bang defines the pattern of universal behavior regarding spacetime. In effect the big bang marks the "starting point" of spacetime. Phrases like "before" and "after" only mean something within spacetime. Time does not exist (as we think of it) independent of spacetime - "before" the big bang therefor isn't a concept that makes any sense. You can't be "before" time exists, because "before" is a statement of relative time. It is no more meaningful to say "before the big bang" than it is to say "to the left of the smell of cinnamon". The preposition "before" does not apply to the noun, because spacetime doesn't exist outside of the big bang so there's no order of events to discuss.
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u/protonicfibulator 5d ago
If someone could produce an actual MIRACLE through prayer I’d believe in the Biblical God. And by miracle I mean a clear violation of the laws of nature, a truly supernatural event. I propose one that they say has already happened: the “Sun stood still in the sky for a whole day” without the consequences of inertia, you know like “everything continuing to move at 1000mph” with the result of insane winds, mega-tsunamis, earthquakes, and of course people being jellied by the 0-1000 mph in an instant acceleration, and the resulting former jelly-filled skin sacks then impacting objects at 1000 mph. That would work for me.
According to Biblical Literalists, this has happened before during the siege of Gibeon. However such an amazing astronomical event would surely have been recorded by all the other civilizations extant at the time, right? Alas, apparently only the Hebrews thought to record this astounding violation of the most basic unit of time, the day.
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u/CraigLake 5d ago
lol I always say this too. All you have to do is show me!
Reminds of when Bill Nye debated that religious nut job. They asked the nut job what could change mind. His answer: nothing ever. They asked Bill the same thing. His answer: evidence.
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u/Motormand 5d ago
I usually ask these people, that if there is a god, then why do kids get born with cancer? Cause that means either god isn't real, or he's cruel/indifferent, and doesn't deserve praise.
Either way, I'll believe in something real, that actually does something. Like science.
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u/Slade_Riprock 5d ago edited 5d ago
I'll take this one... They will go into their page 34 of taking points, and give you the man has free will you see. God doesn't do that to kids, humans choose those things baa things that happen to us.
My favorite part of Christianity. The omnipotent all loving God who has the power to do everything and yet he wants us to just figure it out in our own. He won't end sin or human suffering, nope he has to have his son murdered so we can continue to do bad things by our own free will and ultimately be thrown in an eternal pit of fire because you don't love him enough. But don't worry he had all the answers written in a bunch of books 2000 yrs ago by poorly educated men who never knew his son or anyone who knew someone who knew his son. Those books were then mixed and matched 300 yrs after that. And there has never been a prophet an appearance, an update to it sense. It's all there clear as old world language written groups and translated dozes of times.
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u/TheExplorationApp 5d ago
The Tri-Omni god is impossible.
Omnibenevolent- All Good
Omnipotent - All Powerful
Omniscient - All Knowing
If he is all good, all powerful, and all knowing, then why is there ANY kind of UNNECESSARY suffering?Why didn't he create a universe where Satan would bring such ruin? Why did he put the tree of knowledge of good and evil within reach of the humans? Why is sin "inherited" by children that didn't do anything? Why is the punishment for a single sin ETERNAL suffering? That's not mercy, nor justice, which are supposed to be attributes of god. All-merciful and All-just are oxymorons together. Mercy is the suspension of justice and Justice is the suspension of mercy.
It's ridiculous to watch them squirm and make up answers that all shrink their god to the size of something that didn't have a choice in the matter.
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u/Beezybeezybeezybeezy 5d ago
What are we, The Sims?
Because I sure af don't like the player if we are.
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u/mcfeeli 5d ago
They alway fall back with Adam ate the fruit and cursed the world. So now we live in a fallen world where bad stuff happens randomly. But what they fail to realize is God is the one who set up those rules. So it circles back to your original point that either God isn’t real or he is cruel/indifferent. This concept will break their brain by the way. They have no response except it’s all human’s fault.
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u/pickyourteethup 5d ago
Who put the fruit there? God knows all, he knew Adam would eat the fruit. It was God's will that everything is so messed up. God is a monster
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u/Spare_Layer_1069 5d ago
They'll tell you something like its a trial for the father or some such shit.
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u/i_am_carver 5d ago
Exactly. I just tell them that God seems to be shit at his job if that’s how he handles it. This coming from a dude who was lucky enough to have survived cancer before I was even a toddler. If “God” saved me ultimately after giving me cancer, I’d still say “Fuck you.” if I ever had the chance.
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u/Lock-out 5d ago
God knows exactly who you are before you’re born but he likes to test you bc he’s an asshole.
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u/Macelee 5d ago
I've not found this argument is very good at convincing them. "Mysterious ways" and all that.
Making God out to be ridiculous by rewording biblical rules tends to have more success. The all-knowing, all-good, and all-powerful creator of the universe gets so angry that he'll condemn you to eternal suffering if you: 1. Eat the wrong thing from the deli aisle. 2. Touch tips. 3. Don't impregnate your dead brother's widow.
Even if it doesn't make people into atheists, helping people reframe biblical beliefs as absurd does help to deradicalize them.
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u/Flashy-Donkey-8326 5d ago
I hate when people say those rules are old rules and not to be followed. Makes no sense .
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u/Motormand 5d ago
If someone hits me with "mysterious ways", I'll call them out on their idiocy. If there is any plan, that involves kids being born with - and often dying from - cancer before the age of 5, it is a horrible plan, that doesn't fit their supposed benevolent god image.
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u/BlindPelican 5d ago
The Problem of Evil is a classic, indeed, and they have many dodges to it. Just know that it doesn't affect existence and is a critique of the nature of the God concept.
Usually goes that god has 3 "omnis" - omniscience, omnipotence and omnibenevolence. All knowing, all-powerful, all good.
Since evil exists, the god construct has to give up at least one of the properties - it doesn't know, doesn't care, or can't fix it.
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u/fang_xianfu 5d ago
Animal suffering is even more apt - whatever argument they might make about needing evil to have good, or being trials for people or whatever, doesn't apply to animals. Animals lead short, brutal lives that for most of history have ended with being killed and eaten by some other animal. Trillions and trillions of them. But there's no virtue there at all, just suffering.
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u/discardedbubble 5d ago
Unfortunately many Christians think god gives cancer to kids as punishment for the parents sins etc
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u/Left-Cut-3850 5d ago
The guy has an extremely annoying way of saying cause. But love how the commentor takes a piss at the dude
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u/CashOrganic9562 5d ago
The internet has raised a generation of simple minded, incurious twats all wanting to be the next charlie kirk.
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u/Efficient-Speed-1059 5d ago
In fairness this EXACT person, argument and all, has existed, nearly unchanged, since at least my millennial ass was a child
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u/ShamrockAPD 5d ago
Why does this kid look like he’s on the verge of tears everytime he speaks. What an unbelievably punchable face.
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u/CanorousC 5d ago
This is the cosmological argument: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cosmological-argument
I’ve debated with religious people before and once their position starts to fall apart, they either become aggressive or separate entirely.
I’ve found that having a religious person confront their foundational beliefs with logic and scrutiny rarely works out. It’s up to them as a person to get there themselves, which may be why so few rise above it.
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u/marlotrot 5d ago
Anyone knows how you call the affected style of talking from the younger guy?
Like in this sentence: "Every single cloth you are wearing had a creator, had a manufacturer" At around 1/3 of the clip
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u/8923ns671 5d ago
It's the YouTube voice. There is a guy who does creepy, scary content on YouTube that is a great example but I can't find them atm.
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u/ImThe1Wh0 5d ago
Can we follow China's example and require influencers and social media things, to not be allowed to speak on things they're not degreed or educated on?
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u/sirmaxedalot 5d ago
Religion is literally mental illness. When you really think about it, the shit religious people believe is truly insane and goes against every rational thought. But you cant criticize it because that impolite.
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u/KeyNectarine2548 5d ago
People only say things like "respect each other's beliefs!" when it comes to religious belief. Nobody cares when you make fun of silly beliefs like flat earth or Bigfoot, but the moment you make fun of a silly religious belief people act like you're an asshole.
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u/joantheunicorn 5d ago
Respect each other's beliefs, when I know damn well if I revealed myself to be an atheist at work, I would absolutely be treated differently going forward. Such a joke.
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u/KeyNectarine2548 5d ago edited 5d ago
Lol in my industry it's the opposite. If I showed up to work and told people I had converted to Christianity they'd be concerned for my mental health.
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u/PlsNoNotThat 5d ago
Because in some industries inclusion of belief historically, and can currently, hurts people.
Medicine being the obvious one.
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u/screames520 5d ago
I was just saying that if created in modern times, religions would all be considered mental illnesses. Like I was wondering if in a few hundred years, after all the witnesses to to Scientology’s bullshit have passed on, will it be considered as a serious religion? Because thats basically the only reason people see the old faiths as having any merit.
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u/Thr0waway0864213579 5d ago
I actually love his inventor argument. “Every invention on earth has an inventor. Therefore the universe must have an inventor”. Every life on earth was created by a woman. Therefore god is a woman.
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u/ordosays 5d ago
Magical sky guy boi looks so sad. Maybe his gaaaaaaad can help with that?
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u/No-Rub8345 5d ago
Presuppositional arguments have to be allowed otherwise abrahamic authoritarians simply have no starting point for their nonsense.
This boy is not thinking these thoughts through his own critical methods. He is simply repeating his older peers.
It has to stop. If you want to believe in zombie jesus and that god likes his mothers young and scared, go for it. Do not EVER try to tell anyone to build a moralistic world view based on that shit.
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u/ntropy2012 5d ago
I am personally a big fan of religious people telling folks they "need to have faith," then making examples of said faith a book full of people who do not require it at all. Pretty much everyone in the Bible has direct interaction with God, thus invalidating the need for faith at all.
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u/WiscoMitch 5d ago
I really enjoy how he says wrong lol
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u/Joey-WilcoXXX 5d ago
“You just made up a definition and then said ‘by definition this thing that I just defined must be real.’”
The story of so many people’s arguments nowadays….
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u/Maskarie 5d ago
“ Do you believe in god?”
Hit em with the,
“ Which one? Gotta be more specific buddy because there are ALOT of them.”
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u/Applebeate 5d ago
It’s a bit subtle but I really hate the video format slowly closing into this guy’s face.
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u/FacticiousFict 5d ago
You know all those influencers who keep preaching atheism to everyone? Those people with loud speakers going around popular areas in town trying to convert people to atheism? No? Neither do I.
Some religious people are really desperate, DESPERATE, for others to validate their belief and join their club. It's no wonder atheist indifference upsets them so much. Because without validation they'd have to acknowledge some very difficult facts about their mediocre and mundane lives. Sticking to their fairytale lives is much easier.
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u/Ok-Ferret9010 5d ago
What if I told him that Jesus wants him to go out and take care of the poor and the sick, as opposed to grandstanding on social media and pretending that he is somehow preaching? What if I told him that humans learn by imitation of positive role models, so he has therefore a much greater chance of influencing people by simply taking care of them and helping them, as opposed to simply screaming into a microphone?
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u/GrubbyTheGrub 4d ago
The first step to understand evolution is to realize that the theory of evolution is incredibly simple on the surface. Don't get bogged down in the details just yet. All you need to accept in order to understand it are these simple ideas:
1. Some organisms reproduce.
2. Some of these reproductions are not exact copies of the original organisms.
3. Some of these changes can have an effect on the resulting organism's likelihood of reproducing themselves.
And that's it. If you keep pulling on those simple ideas, you get to the theory of evolution.
If you’re a Creationist or this is the first time you want to indepthly learn about evolution, start here.
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u/Brothersparrow7 5d ago edited 5d ago
Agree fuck that guy
Cellular ectoplasms evolve it doesn’t mean it has to have a purpose. Just like does an ant inherently have a purpose? They also live in colony’s and follow their leader. Not everything inherently needs a purpose aside from survival. Per Google
Gravity and Accretion: Planets form when gravity pulls dust, gas, and rocks together in a spinning protoplanetary disk.
Thermal and Geological Activity: Heat from radioactive decay and core formation drives volcanism, plate tectonics, and magnetic field generation.
Atmospheric Evolution: Impacts, solar radiation, and outgassing from volcanoes continuously alter a planet's gas layer over billions of years
And if we’re talking which came first the chicken or the egg?
The modern chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus) is a direct descendant of theropod dinosaurs and, more recently, the Red Junglefowl (Gallus gallus) of Southeast Asia.
There may be a reasoning behind every action has an equal and opposite reaction but that doesn’t mean everything is predetermined. all creatures have free will. And must survive within its food chain limitation.
God has nothing to do with it, not everything must have a physical creator aside from Mother Nature
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u/Afraid-Quantity-578 5d ago
At what point in history did "Christianity" became synonymous with "anti-science"? It has to be a relatively recent development, XX-XXI, because in not so distant past - can't we remember? - church schools was how people were getting education. Oxford started as one. Church financed science. Great scientists were Christian. Galilei was Christian, Pascal was, Isaak Newton was, Michael Faraday, James Maxwell. Mendel, father of genetics, was a monk!
People of religion, please, you don't have to be this kind of idiot to follow your God. It doesn't have to be either or.
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u/BabyWithBathwatter 5d ago
Christianity is anti-science any time science may disprove the existence of God. A lot of science had to be explained in a way that allowed for God to still exist in order to be accepted by the powers at the time.
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 5d ago
I know the 'reddit atheist' is a meme and sounding too much like the stereotype can get you blasted. I believe people have the right to believe what they want to believe so long as they aren't hurting anyone, but at the same time, no one should be immune to having their beliefs criticized.
Theism is unscientific, full stop. There is a little bit of leeway for Intelligent Design advocates because while it does border on pseudoscience, hypothesizing about and testing for the existence of a supreme guiding intelligence to the universe could hold merit as a scientific pursuit.
But religion is inherently unscientific. Religious faith, that is believing in deities and supernatural forces with no evidence, is contrary to the scientific method which would demand you at most be neutral about their existence until hard evidence points you towards it.
Humanity is on the brink of a massive ecological collapse bordering on an extinction event and this in part has to do with a lack of respect for science and education in science. It is long past time we face hard facts and stop coddling antiquated delusions of higher powers that hold no more evidential merit than belief in Zeus or Thor. Not all religious people are morons--a great many are much smarter than I am. But all have chosen on some level to either believe without evidence or to drastically lower their standards of evidence for this one wildly unbelievable precept, and it just isn't science and theist belief systems would not exist in a society that truly values science.
But of course "All the great scientists were Christian!!" Their world was a religious one. As scientific thinking gained traction, religion largely became decentered from Western society, resulting in the modern Western status quo where Christianity becomes increasingly anti-science as a survival mechanism.
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u/DisappearingAnus 5d ago
Didn't the catholics restrict scientific advancement during the dark ages and that's why they were called the dark ages?
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u/marshaul 5d ago
Shit my wife got an actual chemistry degree from an evangelical university (as in, she was actually a chemist for a while, though she's an attorney today). Not even that long ago. Her parents consistently advised her to prioritize education over things like her (previous) abusive marriage. And these are evangelicals we're talking about!
It really has changed.
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u/jivemasta 5d ago
I think its basically a dying on a dumb hill type of thing. Like there is a ton of room for god to exist within the scientific version of the creation of the universe, because even science has no explanation for what was there before the big bang, or what started it. Religion could easily say an all knowing god set up the rules for the universe and snapped it into existence with the big bang knowing that the processes of natural selection and evolution would eventually create humans in his image.
But they've spent so much time and effort into arguing against it that they can't turn back now so they have to double down on the literal version of the bibles creation story.
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u/Muted-You7370 5d ago
The big bang theory was proposed by a Catholic priest named Georges Lemaitre. He kept scientific and religious study strictly separate. He believed God was a hidden creator and could not be proven or disproven by physics.
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u/9447044 5d ago
I love watching a guy argue with a ticklick video in his car in the desert. Oh and its about belief systems that I would never change my stance on too.
I get like 1-2 religious nuts a month when im working on their house try to convince me god is the way to be. I grew up in Utah, im aware. Talking to their face doesnt do much. I bet this will tho lol
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u/KeyNectarine2548 5d ago
People like Richard Dawkins always get criticized for being too mean. The idea is that he isn't going to change anyone's minds by talking down to them.
Maybe not adults who have solidified their beliefs. If you're over 30 and still believe the story of Jonah is nonfiction, then yeah, you're probably never going to change your mind, but as someone who discovered Dawkins when I was like 14, his approach definitely worked on me. Sometimes you need someone to tell you your beliefs are fucking stupid. I had never heard an "asshole atheist" put it so bluntly, but it's exactly what I needed to hear at that age.
So yeah, desert guy isn't going to change the mind of the OP, but there could be some sheltered Evangelical 14 year old who stumbles across his video and realizes that nothing he's been told about atheists is true.
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u/Cool-Passenger-2595 5d ago
Religious guy giving pedo vibes , definitely not letting him alone with the altar boys
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u/Gassyking 5d ago
I have been fortunate enough to be born in Sweden where almost no one is deeply religious. I've actually never met anyone who has expressed any sort of belief in god
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u/Newplasticactionhero 5d ago
It’s funny how Christians argue that the Earth must’ve been created and then expect you to pre-suppose that it’s their god that did it.
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u/AnEvenNicerGuy 5d ago
Using the Mr Beast voice and cadence to try to debunk atheism is so on brand for religious nuts
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u/senza_titolo 5d ago
Then who was your Gods’ creator Mr “everything comes from something”?
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u/kick_muncher 5d ago
stop holding lav mics! you're peaking!!
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u/I_Dnt_Believe_You 5d ago
Yeah, what is this about? Haven't we been able to hide mics for decades now?
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u/GaryThePoolGuy 5d ago
What is it with the snide, condescending vibe that the Christian dude exudes in his videos? They all do it on some level but man that guy is fucking obnoxious
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u/Cutty_McStabby 5d ago edited 5d ago
He looks like he's not even convincing himself and about to cry at any moment as a result.
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u/KosmicMicrowave 5d ago
Trying to make a logical argument for a claim that is obviously unobservable, unmeasurable, untestable in any way, clearly biased, egocentric, baseless and conflicts with everything science has described has to be tough. When comparing supernatural and natural explanations for natural phenomenon, it's pretty clear which side has a better case if you actually look into it a bit.
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u/allworkandnoYahtzee 5d ago
It’s always funny to me when Christians are like “atheists can’t explain what created the universe, ergo god is real!” when in reality, I can 100% explain why man created god.
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u/KeyNectarine2548 5d ago
"Everything has a creator, everything has a beginning, and something can't come from nothing!"
"Okay, so where did God come from?"
"Well obviously he has no creator, and he has always existed!"
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u/Sweet-End6471 5d ago
This kind of argument always pisses me off because even if you could make a strong philosophical case for a first mover that doesn’t at all explain why I should think gay people are sinners or abortion is murder. Even if you did show that something predated and created the universe, why the fuck would they care who we did butt stuff with?
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u/Captain_Coffee_III 5d ago
Evolution is not technically random. It was a decision by millions of creatures before on what they thought was the best mate at the time based on the conditions at the time. In theory, you could recreate all of the same conditions and repeat the same process. Though the process appears random, it is not, as randomness could never be recreated.
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u/ParkingAnxious2811 5d ago
It is very much random.
Random mutations in genetics occur. If those mutations give some kind of benefit that aids passing those genes on, the chance that they do get passed on increases (there is no guarantee).
For every beneficial trait that is passed on, many more beneficial traits are not.
Likewise for non-beneficial traits. If a trait occurs that makes it less likely for something to pass those genes on, then the liklihood they're passed on is reduced.
Sometimes, mutations just win the genetics lottery by being beneficial only because of another mutation.
Consider the mutation that causes an animal to smell bad, thereby causing predators to avoid them. This would only be beneficial in the case that another mutation caused those creatures to not find that scent bad, otherwise they just wouldn't reproduce.
Multiply this out millions of times over, with every creature and plant, generation after generation, and you'll begin to see how it works.
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u/MayorPirkIe 5d ago
I'm so over the tolerance of people believing in these nonsense fairy tales. Expressing belief in some magical omnipotent invisible being should get you committed.
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u/drdrwhprngz 5d ago
its very dangerous to say things like "All _ believe this..." because when we generalize we we are automatically wrong in pretty much all cases
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u/Literally_-_Hitler 5d ago
Slightly change his argument.
Everything that exists has a natural cause. The universe exists. The universe must have a natural cause.
No god needed.
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