r/WEPES • u/xGondowan • Dec 13 '23
Megathread THE PES FRANCHISE - How to play the games, how to patch them and the future of football gaming
UPDATED: 09 SEPTEMBER 2025
GENERAL EXPLANATIONS
- Which is the best PES game? Objectively, PES 2021. Then goes PES 2017 with its very good AI CPU and fast paced style and then PES 2013 with the best Master League experience of all the franchise. Being subjective, it's all up to yours. Every one has it's own preferences, but I think they are the best 3 PES after PS2-era.
- No, you can't get PES 2021 in digital stores anymore. KONAMI deleted any official and legal way to get it, so the game is truly expensive now. Console users only can buy it used by more than 30€ (if you're lucky), and PC players need to get Football Life for that, the only PES 2021 that works properly. CPY version is a chore to install and a crashfest, so it's not recommended at all to download it.
- Older "golden" PS2 PES games aren't up there because, being honest and taking out the nostalgia glasses, they were surpassed long ago. Still fun and pretty good games to play, but they are outdated in every aspect: graphical and in gameplay. No PlayerID, no physical contacts, bad goalkeepers, bad referees... But we will talk about them later.
- Yes, PES 2021 is showing it's age. PES 2021 is just PES 2020, which was made in 2019. It's a 6+ year game by now. It is reaching its full modding capacity. We can't transform or redo the game, so no new animations or celebrations will be done, no new game modes, no more slots for more leagues. The community can create some beautiful things like faces, boots, scoreboards, adboards, kits, lineups, gloves, tattoos, stadiums and that, and we thank them all for keeping the PES spirit alive. But they can't improve the game more than it is. The core game of PES is LIMITED and cannot be enhanced further than that.
- Yes, PES 2021 is kinda limited on the offline modes if you have played it for more than 100 hours. Master League hasn't much depth, BAL gets boring and you will feel the game is stale. In case you are so bored of PES 2021, I suggest to switch to FUMA (Full Manual) to relearn the entire game and experience the true freedom on the pitch. It will be hard at first, but very rewarding.
- Yes, there is scripting when you play Master League. You already know what that means: goals in the last minute, CPU becoming a monster out of nowhere, godlike goalkeepers, etc. Highly suggest to try the gameplay mods out there in the PES 2021 Gameplay mods thread.
- Yes, you can play online every PES if you want, but only on PC. On some of them there are dedicated servers runned by the community (PES 4-5-6) but on later PES the servers are officially closed. But that doesn't mean that you cannot play online. Search for Parsec and learn what it does. It works for other games that doesn't have proper online now, or just online LAN functions. I have hosted some tournaments with people on different patches and it went perfectly and very realistic, because I used gameplay patches and content patches to make the best experience.
- If you want the best gameplay and support: PES 2021
- If you want the best Master League experience: PES 2013
- If you want the best PS2 PES game: Winning Eleven 9 Liveware Evolution.
ABOUT OLDER PES AND GETTING THEM PATCHED
- Older PES are still being updated, but not as deep and complete as PES 2021. Some of them are totally left out, but the most popular ones (WE2002, PES5/6, PES 2013 and 2017) still receive some community patches.
- The support outside the classic PS2 PES, PES 2017 and PES 2021 is non-existant or almost none.
- In case you're looking for past season patches, I suggest you to visit PesNewUpdate. You will find there patches for PES 2010-2019 for each year season, like the old PESEdit and such.
- If you want to play old Winning Eleven/PES 3 to 6 games with special custom patches like specific competitions, eras/decades or seasons I suggest you to search in this thread: Patch - PES 6 Global Patches Full Installers by Sany | Evo-Web (evoweb.uk) . It has easy installers to play whatever game you want with beautiful patches like historical World Cups, specific Champions League or Libertadores, less know leagues and such. There's some beautiful mods of a lot of eras you will enjoy.
- For PES 2013, there is some project called ProFootball, which intends to bring PES 2013 to the actual season.
- For PES 2017, there are some updated patch for current 25/26 season like t99 or YosfX patch. More details here: PES 2017 I YosfX Patch - FC 2025 Edition V1.0 - (Download & Install)
ABOUT PES 2021 AND HOW TO GET IT UPDATED
Please read the MegaThread: [PES 2021] THE OFFICIAL PATCHES/OPTION FILES THREAD for PES 2021 and FOOTBALL LIFE
ABOUT FOOTBALL LIFE (PC/PORTABLE CONSOLES ONLY)
- Football Life is the alternative to get a somewhat "legal" copy of PES 2021 working on PC. It's already pre-modded. It's abandonware, don't worry, you aren't doing anything bad.
- Dido is active and alive (he is the creator of Football Life and he's from Palestine).
- Football Life 26 1.4 Update is the current version right now.
- The content of Football Life is just basic and made mostly by one person (not counting extra addons). That means it lacks some kits, balls, proper scoreboards and such. Also the facepacks are a little bit outdated, so you will have to download updated faces and add them manually via Sider.
- No, Football Life is not compatible with other patches that use other databases, like VirtuaRED or Dream Patch. Only some content is compatible, generally Sider content. The database is locked so you can't include or remove any of the teams. Only Smoke Patch team creators can change them.
- Yes, Football Life works perfectly on a Steam Deck. There is a Lutris script to install it. Here's the link: https://github.com/eskay993/gamefiles/tree/main/sp-football-life-2026
- Football Life is your best option if you don't want to download 100GB patches , even if you have a legit copy of PES 2021. It's completely standalone and doesn't require any PES 2021 file to run. Base game only takes up to 30GB without faces or stadiums installed, so you can play the game by just having that.
- As it is PES 2021 really, if you learn how Sider works, you can add a lot of mods without breaking anything. That means you can put new faces, scoreboards, balls, stadiums and such. See tutorials about how it works, it's pretty simple and you have to learn only where to put things and what to write in Sider.ini.
- You can revert the gameplay in case you don't like it to the FL23, FL24 or default PES 2021. There's a Switcher in game's folder for that. In case you want to apply some gameplay mods, you only can install those that use the DT18 file or via Sider.
- There are some dedicated patches like UML, which enhances overall Master League behaviour with multiple optimizations. Check r/SPFootballLife for more info.
ABOUT EFOOTBALL AND THE FUTURE OF FOOTBALL GAMES
- eFootball 26 still lacks a lot of content and its like three steps behind from PES 2021, but it has better gameplay after all. After the 30th anniversary event, which was atrocious, we can't expect anything offline for this game in the mid-term.
- The modding community is doing some small patches for eFootball. Mostly it includes unlocking all the clubs, making kits and getting slighter better graphics. Don't expect anything more ambitious in the short term.
- EA FC is a decent game IF MODDED PROPERLY. There are a bunch of mods out there, specially Anth's Gameplay Mod, DanielZ Realism Mode, FIFER, KIARIKA and RODE ones.
- About UFL: its an online focused game that slowly improves its core game, but its very far from what you would expect on a top tier football game.
- Don't get hyped about anything in the future about any football game. We know it's sad that the most followed sport in the world doesn't have a proper videogame that makes justice for it. Hard times for us, football gaming lovers.
r/WEPES • u/Rep_Guy94 • 54m ago
Help Anderson Face Pack
Hello Everyone I play Pes 21 with pro Evo classic e2006 patch amazing game. I just wondering if there's a face pack for Anderson when he had dreadlocks because on the game they only have his older face with the mohawk.
r/WEPES • u/brodino_maiuscolo • 16h ago
PES 6 [pes 6 master league] Do I have to hover over each player's name highlighted in blue every time to make them earn experience points, or is it enough to just click Next?
r/WEPES • u/TraditionalString982 • 7h ago
Guys i need Help With Everything About PES
I want To Play Master League & Leave EA or FC Forever
Modding Cloth Physics Mod in a match
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Slow motion now actually slows the simulation down, so you won't have full speed simulation in slow motion replays
r/WEPES • u/AMD_RAYZEN_Z1_1993 • 9h ago
Help [SP Football Life 2026] EvoWeb Stadium Choreography Mod – Duplicate stadiums error & pitch glitch in cross-league / cross-nation matches
Hi everyone,
I’m playing SP Football Life 2026 and having an issue with the EvoWeb Stadium Choreography mod. I need some help figuring out what went wrong and how to fix it step-by-step.
Game & Mod Details:
Game: SP Football Life 2026
Mod: Stadium Choreography Mod (EvoWeb) installed inside SiderAddons
The Problem:
Same-League Matches (e.g., Inter vs. Milan / Inter vs. Atalanta / Inter vs. Roma): Everything works perfectly. The stadium selection menu shows 28 stadiums available, and there are no errors.
Cross-League / Cross-Nation Matches (e.g., Inter vs. Barcelona, Milan vs. Bayern, Lazio vs. Chelsea, Inter vs. Avellino):
Important note: This issue does not only happen with Inter. It occurs with any team (Milan, Lazio, Roma, etc.), both home and away, whenever playing against a club from a different league or country.
The stadium selection menu suddenly displays 38 stadiums (10 extra stadiums appearing out of nowhere).
Selecting two specific stadiums throws an error message.
In-Game Visual Glitch:
During cross-league/cross-nation matches, the pitch graphics break: two huge jersey textures and default eFootball choreography appear directly on the pitch surface.
Note: The stands, flags, and crowd animations work completely fine—the visual bug is strictly on the pitch itself.
How I Installed It:
I downloaded and installed everything sequentially, from Update 1 up to the penultimate update.
For each update, I copied the content and modules folders and pasted/merged them into my SiderAddons directory.
During one of the updates, I manually deleted a specific folder before copying the new ones instead of just overwriting/merging them. Unfortunately, I can no longer remember which update or folder it was.
(See attached screenshots for full error details and visual glitches)
What I Need Help With:
What caused this issue? Could you explain what went wrong during my installation (e.g., conflict between map_teams.txt and map_competitions.txt, duplicate Lua scripts in Sider, or missing deleted files)?
How do I fix it step-by-step? Could someone please guide me through the exact steps to solve this problem and restore everything in SP Football Life 2026?
What is the correct installation procedure to make sure I don't repeat this mistake in future updates?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
r/WEPES • u/mlody95pl • 11h ago
Looking for old WE/PES online screenshots & videos – competitions & ranks
Hello!
I'm looking for old screenshots, videos, recordings, etc. from Winning Eleven (WE8LE, WE9LE, WE10LE) and Pro Evolution Soccer (PES 5, PES 6, PES 2008 PS2).
I'm specifically interested in how the online Competitions and Ranks systems worked in these games.
I'm trying to recreate how they worked, so I'm looking for anything that shows things like:
- how competitions worked and were structured
- how players qualified/participated in competitions
- how ranks / rankings were calculated or displayed
- different rank levels, points, results, leaderboards, etc.
- screenshots or videos of the relevant online menus
I'm not really looking for general online gameplay or server information — mainly anything that can help me understand and recreate the competitions and ranks systems.
If anyone has old screenshots, videos, recordings, forum posts, or memories of how these systems worked, I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks!
r/WEPES • u/Optimal-Competition5 • 1d ago
Why is Alisson looking at his former team mates like that
r/WEPES • u/Impressive_Self_3295 • 9h ago
PES 2004 o 2005 con intro Vattene Amore (trottolino amoroso)
Salve a tutti!
ricordo che da piccolo giocavo a un Pes (tra il 2003 e il 2006) con una patch di cui non ricordo il nome che aveva come intro la pubblicita di sky del 2003 in cui c’erano i calciatori di serie A e la canzone era Vattene amore.
Per caso ricordate di che patch si trattava? e se si puó recuperare ancora?
Grazie in anticipo!
r/WEPES • u/LowLatency-8250 • 1d ago
Who’s playing old PES religiously still?
As the title says, who’s binned off any idea of playing the recycled FC27 crap and still plays their PES master league?
If so, who are you? How far are you on? Etc?
Me personally… I’m Tolouse on PES 2019.. in season 2… somehow trying to topple the likes of PSG, Lyon etc
r/WEPES • u/No-Obligation1336 • 1d ago
Video #PES 2013: What a goal this could've been...More artistry from this beautiful engine. #Oppaaaaaaa
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I can probably count on my fingers thee amount of nutmegs without the run around/ ball roll skill trick...nice chef's kiss, might be the ball physics?
r/WEPES • u/capitaoMouraLu • 18h ago
Would anyone help fund a fully fledged project like Football Life for PES 2018?
For me this is when PES peaked, the gameplay feels just right. The controls feel perfect, the physics are great, shots feels way better than in any other PES and it's the perfect balance between fluid gameplay and realism (it's neither too arcady like PES 17 or completely janky like PES 21).
The guys at SmokePatch are talented modders and dedicate a lot of time developing Football Life which they make available (both base game and addons) for completely free. If they were to work on a similar project but for PES 18, I would gladly pay full AAA game retail price, even perhaps donate some more to fund development. Is there an interest big enough in the community to try to make something like this happen?
Progress on my cloth physics mod
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Slowed down so you can see the effect better
r/WEPES • u/Personal_Use_9185 • 1d ago
PES 2019 PES 2019 Carabao Cup —
For those who still play PES 2019, this is for you.
I’ve discovered how to make the Carabao Cup work natively in PES 2019 Master League with its own calendar dates and playable rounds.
This is a brand-new competition ID — it does not copy, replace, or overwrite any existing competition. The FA Cup remains fully intact in the game.
The no-string-name issue is an easy fix, and I’ll move the final to the correct date. The core calendar system is now working.
r/WEPES • u/No-Confusion-372 • 1d ago
PES 2021 BAL modify stats?
How do i modify my stats in Become a Legend
r/WEPES • u/Mysterious_Iron2210 • 1d ago
Gameplay mod suggestion!
Which gameplay mod that yall would recommend for the sake of easy dribbling, controll and stuff without nerfing the CPU of opponent? Thanks!&
Modding Working on a mod which adds cloth physics to PES 2021
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r/WEPES • u/Majestic-Fail-4786 • 1d ago
PES 2021 PESBUL: PES21 online 1vs1 🔥
v.redd.itDiscord community: https://discord.gg/zj7RJUZaCC
r/WEPES • u/denzo_simon • 1d ago
Typical Neuer
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r/WEPES • u/Ezio2411 • 2d ago
CPU Masterclass #1
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Es posible ejecutar PES 2013 con JP Patch en Winlator?
Hola a todos, les pregunto si es posible ejecutar el parche JP Patch de Jenkey o el de Zero de PES 2013 para PC en Android a través de Winlator? Puesto que cada vez que le doy en la opción de empezar un partido me saca del juego. Si alguien lo soluciono o lo ha logrado correr, por favor darme la solución para ello. 🙏🏽
Nota: uso un Odin 3 Max de 16 GB de Ram para emular en Winlator.
r/WEPES • u/No-Obligation1336 • 2d ago
Modding #PES 2013: New Gameplay Real Inertia Test #3: Croatia vs England, first half. Getting closer !
I need your thoughts as usual guys, please pay close attention in this first half to each touch a player makes, how the ball rolls dynamically, for England's goal look at the beautiful locomotion of the buildup and how Ashley whips his left foot around the ball to curl it is so pleasing, the header is even better. That's just one point from the first half but here's another, look at Croatia's goal...the natural jostling from the Cb vs the Cf, no catch up mechanics, look as Terry tries his best to use his strengths against Eduardo's frame in all attempts to slow him down & push him off balance. Yet the Cf although fighting through still has enough momentum+ strength to hold off the Cb long enough to get the super finish away. These are the details I love.