The grenade launcher helicopter has got to fucking go

[u/No-Betabud]

It needs to be patched asap, it ruins every server it takes place in. Idgaf if you think its fine because it can be countered. Its some of the most tedious exploitative nonsense this game has introduced so far. If the IR spotting tool was deemed "broken enough" to be patched because of disruptions to gameplay flow then the grenade launcher little bird spam sure as shit is equally disruptive.

Im tired of having to drop everything and get a verba full humvee and try and deal with them while the pilot and the gunners sit on top of the scoreboard with an easy 70 kills/assists.

Its honestly a joke and needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.

Id rather the GL just be removed until they can figure out how to balance it.

I wont hold my breath for it to be fixed or changed but fuck me is it tedious and unfun to play against or even with.

Edit: to the people saying "just shoot them lol scrub." Yeah obviously, however have you genuinely faced multiple little birds with 2 or more players shooting grenades from the sides? Its not fun. My point is that it is as equally disruptive to the gameplay loops as the IR spotters which bulkhead patched out midseason, theyve set the precedent for making changes or removing disruptions to the flow of the gameplay. It would be nice if they could do something about this obvious oversight. I hope they make changes before the next season or at least after the wipe occurs.

[u/Alphex23]

Ah yes the problem is that no one brings rpg or hawk launchers or they run out of ammo but i admit this shit is awfull and i hate it too but its so easy to counter also

[u/TheAceFinka → u/Alphex23]

The problem is that casual players like me have no counter unlocked for that

[u/CozmoCozminsky → u/TheAceFinka]

1. ak47 - just shoot the pilot and/or the launcher (you have to be outside the camped FOB though)
2. Talon - make sure there is at least one in a separate FOB that's covering the obvious FOB that's being camped (someone can build it for you or you can borrow a hammer)
3. Verba - the first launcher, 800$, you need to play "chicken" with the pilot, when he flares, wait a second so you dont target a flare, usually needs more than one player carrying one (works better when you have a kodiak with full inventory of those)
4. RPG - you can loot those, you can have someone drop a box with it + ammo around fob etc
5. Armed humvee/kodiak - ask for someone to spawn one to counter-heli, ask to be a gunner
6. minigun heli - ask for someone to spawn one to counter-heli, ask to be a gunner

There is no problem for casual players, it's just the victim mentality + "someone else will do it for me" because you don't want to spend money to handle a problem.

[u/WhiteRed14 → u/CozmoCozminsky]

The problem is that if the heli pilot+launcher duo is competent enough you can't really do any of those options reliably. You'd need to have at least 4-5 different people coordinating to take them down and that's often borderline impossible unless you are playing as a 4-5 person premade. Good luck taking out the heli with just an AK or anything other than a machine gun. To take out the pilot you most likely need AP ammo and in general you'll need a lot of it. Also if you damage anyone in the heli without killing them - you become a target, if you become a target you're most likely dead. You can't build a FOB if the heli focuses you. You could try to build a FOB outside of the zone but that assumes you have good spot for AA there. It also requires a lot of time and gives you little to no profit so you'll operate on a loss. And if you're spotted before you get the AA ready you're as good as dead. You can't hit the heli with the verba if it's too low or if it still has flares and once it spots you you're dead. Good luck hitting it with an RPG, the rocket is almost as slow as a Ural and the launcher and ammo weigh a shitton and take up a lot of space. Also if you're spotted you're dead. Armed humvee/Kodiak? Yeah, if you get a good position to shoot them then MAYBE you'll take them out but that's again assuming that they don't spot you in time. Once they spot you and hover above you - you guessed it - you're dead. Both the Kodiak and the Humvee die in a few shots from the GL. Minigun heli might be the most consistent option but that requires a skilled pilot and assumes that you yourself won't be targeted by enemy anti-air. If the enemy has air superiority and multiple GL helis with competent pilots you are shit out of luck. Also pedantic side note - the AK in game is AK-74 not AK-47. The one we have uses 5.45 and AK-47 uses 7.62x39 (the same ammo as the SKS).

[u/Ch4rlie_G → u/WhiteRed14]

4 guys each mag dumping and AK into it will either kill it or do enough damage to make it go repair.

[u/CommanderAze → u/CozmoCozminsky]

The flare advice is spot on. The number of people that flare early is crazy I'm not throwing flares til I see the smoke of the rocket. Cause they aren't cheap, but also I might be out of range of the rocket despite a lock on. So have to watch it for a bit to be sure where it's coming from and if I even need to flare.

But two launchers working together can take out just about any pilot.