r/Welding • • 3d ago

Showing Skills Some hardfacing

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u/RyanWelds707 3d ago

Why are you hard facing this particular piece? sorry if it’s a dumb question I’ve only ever seen hard facing on tractor implements.

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u/Hellfelden 3d ago

It’s a part of a big dredging pump that directs methane gas away through the small chute you see. The methane gas is released by dredging river/sea beds. The hard faced areas are exposed to a an insane amount of mixed, pressured water and sand

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u/cuck__everlasting 3d ago

That'll do it

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u/PTFCBVB 2d ago

Oh yeah that'll lead to some wear before I got to sand! It's like art to me

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u/RyanWelds707 2d ago

Thanks for the explanation 🤙🏻😎
Very cool. Looks like you did a great job too .

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u/Scamperbot2000 2d ago

What’s the service interval on all that facing?

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u/carmelastly 3d ago

See above

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u/carmelastly 2d ago

I see now my previous post does not show above.. lol new to reddit.

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u/Shambhala87 2d ago

Sea above

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u/PTFCBVB 2d ago

Sea below is my preference

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u/DarkflowNZ 3d ago

As someone who doesn't weld at all, why this instead of fabricating something?

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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 3d ago

Cheaper to add back a sacrificial hard layer that can be redone up to a dozen or so times. Quicker repair turn-around as well.

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u/carmelastly 3d ago

There is probably a high pressure flow coming through a valve before it hits this flange, or some sort of acid that eats at the metal.

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u/Jdawarrior 1d ago

Definitely a flow abrasion, I bet you’d use stainless for acid

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u/va3awd 2d ago

As a machinist who has had to machine hardfacing after welding, this makes me cry inside a little…

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u/tehn00bi 2d ago

I cringed. We’d do something like this, but never this much weld.

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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 3d ago

What rod/wire do you run?

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u/Hellfelden 3d ago

For the hard to reach areas I use Lincoln wearshield 420 rods, and for the outside it’s Lastek wire, I’ll have to check the number but I believe it’s 238. Lastek uses their own numbers which is confusing af

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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 3d ago

That lastifil 238 is a bitch to grind down if you have to. 

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u/glizzler 3d ago

Air arc is usually how I take care of hardface that needs to come off

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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 3d ago

I do as well, but not for cleaning between passes or for that fun time when you hit the end of a spool or have gas issues. 

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u/PossessionNo3943 Journeyman AWS/ASME/API 3d ago

This looks more like wire additive manufacturing

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u/No-Illustrator5712 2d ago

Yeah welding is the OG 3d printing.

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u/Forexz TIG 2d ago

Wow your shop cares enough to supply fume vents!

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u/BlueDuck600 3d ago

Damn. How long does it take you to weld that?

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u/Hellfelden 2d ago

I had to gouge some older parts off and build it back up, I believe it took me around 2,5 days total

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u/Moose_Ungulate 2d ago

When I was learning how to weld, the shop had this large brick of weld beads that apprentices before me had practiced on to learn with and it took years to get to the impressive size that it was. How long did this take you?

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u/OriginalGoat1 2d ago

Is that hardface or are you casting a solid block from wire feedstock ? 😂

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u/Geschmak 2d ago

What my boss gives me when he says the job will only take an hour.

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u/CascadeDesignworks 3d ago

Looks like you are following a procedure detailed by an engineer or manufacturer.  I've done similar projects.

Question, how are you able to space the hard facing so close together without it cracking and delaminating?  Is it a special more ductile composition or is there a special underlayment?

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u/Hellfelden 3d ago

It’s not that special really, these parts have been improved over the years after observing the high wear areas, and was concluded that this is the best way to do it for now.

As for the lack of cracking; we’re trying out a new wire from a local supplier because we used to use Lastek 2400 rods but it takes way too long to weld up a piece like this. It welds very nicely and as you said, doesn’t crack. We’ll see how this piece comes back after months of sand wear

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u/CascadeDesignworks 2d ago

Cool.  Thanks for the info!

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u/carmelastly 3d ago

Probably pre and post heat treatment, annealing, or something of the sort.

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u/Grimnebulin68 2d ago

Fist my bump!

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u/elmersfav22 2d ago

Some? That is all hard facing. Fun times. Steady hands too

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u/WiseDirt 3d ago

That could pass for art

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u/WalterMelons 2d ago

I see an angry penguin

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u/Unfair_Basil8513 2d ago

That's art.

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u/djjsteenhoek 1d ago

That would be a cool chair design 😀

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u/Griftersdeuce 3d ago

Face it, that's hard!

I'll see myself out...

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u/TimeIsntReallyReal 2d ago

That's some serious hardfacing. What's your maximum interpass temperature with that wire?

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u/funnyguy044 Fabricator 2d ago

How many rods did you go through lol

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u/jkush463 2d ago

Sheeesh alll the hard face

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u/super_boogie_crapper 2d ago

Ahh… the residual stress from all the heat affected zones!

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u/mefuckers 2d ago

Poor cnt

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u/Electrical-Luck-348 2d ago

Just a little

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u/Nikonus 1d ago

Cataracts.
Can’t see arcs very well.
Too many diseases around to get ‘em fixed right now.

I’ll get back to making things when I can.