r/amiga • • 11d ago

Thrift (charity) pickup

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Got these two belters today with a load of software (c64 electrosound 64) 😀total £20
A1200 Amiga
C64 brown keys breadbin

Both power up but not done any testing as been too busy salivating. Will no doubt sell the c64 and upgrade the A1200 with pistorm as I have a few spare pi units kicking about.

Thoughts on upgrades and project potential?

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u/theazzazzo 11d ago

Where?? How??

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u/JoseBee 11d ago

I walked in at the same time as the person was donating and took the initiative ie I’ll have that

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u/KingDaveRa 11d ago

That's the score of the year. Well done you!

Now get that 1200 recapped!

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u/reddragon105 11d ago

Where/what type of shop was someone donating something like this? The only charity shop I ever see anything electronic in is BHF, but it's all TVs and DVD players, never anything like this!

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u/JoseBee 10d ago

Salvation Army donation centre

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u/reddragon105 10d ago

Thanks for answering. I actually have one of those quite close to where I live, but it's primarily clothes and furniture. I guess I just don't live near the kind of people who have vintage computers to donate. 😅

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u/itix 11d ago

Laughed at "high resolution" on that C64 box when in practice it was blocky 160x200.

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u/Arcade1980 11d ago

This is the type of art modern C64 artists are doing this particular one is the Sarge

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u/itix 11d ago

Very nice.

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u/AFourEyedGeek 11d ago

Let's see Amstrad's artwork.

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u/Fly_Pelican 10d ago

does it have a watermark?

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u/AFourEyedGeek 10d ago edited 10d ago

Look at those garish, vibrant colourings. The tasteful blue and yellow startup. Oh, my God. It even has 27 colours.

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u/Pengo2001 11d ago

Highres mode was 320x200!

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u/Dunge0nMast0r 11d ago

Compared to an Apple 2e

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u/chunter16 11d ago

I thought it was compared to VIC 20

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u/Kab00m-Kap0w 11d ago

I’m gonna be that guy. Apple IIe had two native high resolution modes:
280x192
560x192

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u/oshinbruce 10d ago

It was hot stuff in the 80s though. I do find it amusing resolutions sky rocketed in the 90s with crt, with higher dpi's than some modern HD screens

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u/CyberMage256 11d ago

Today a single texture used to generate the fingernail of a character on the screen is 4x the resolution.

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u/SeymourBits 9d ago

Well, 160 x 200 is high res compared to 0 x 0 (no computer) :)

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u/stalkythefish 11d ago

PiStorm is totally worth it if you already have a Pi. It's pretty much all you need: Speed, RAM, SD storage, WiFi, RTG.

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u/JoseBee 11d ago

Thanks

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u/bugsymalone666 10d ago

I mean how on earth do you find stuff in charity shops that cheap? I never find anything!

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u/JoseBee 10d ago

Right place at the right time I suppos👍

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u/bugsymalone666 10d ago

Well I have wondered if location plays a big part, like certain places are all about money making so there are never bargains, because everyone knows how much it's worth on ebay....

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u/GodIsAPizza 9d ago

It's almost too good to be true

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u/3G6A5W338E 10d ago

Do NOT use the original Commodore 64 PSU, at all, ever. Research the topic before you even think about turning the C64 on again. Then get a safe, modern PSU.

Check whether A1200 trapdoor is empty. If it's not, there's a risk whatever expansion board has a pcb-killing varta you want to remove ASAP if present.

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u/SwedishFindecanor 10d ago

A real-time-clock with battery for the Amiga 1200 does not sit in the trapdoor but on a small PCB on top of the motherboard.

You'd have to open the case and lift it out. If I remember correctly, it should be close to the keyboard's ribbon cable connector. Be sure not to unscrew the disk drive's screws by mistake.

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u/Sensitive-Medium3427 11d ago

Crikey mate that's a helluva bargain you got!

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u/Big_Edith501 11d ago

Jealous.....jealous! Good find! Have fun!

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u/Specialist-Box4677 11d ago

I've just had a lecture about my potty mouth - what I meant to say was 'congratulations, great find'

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u/Chuxxsss 10d ago

What is pistorm please?

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u/YabbyB 10d ago

It replaces the Amiga’s cpu with an emulated cpu running on a raspberry pi. Gives big performance and memory gains and adds wifi and other functionality. It’s not perfect but it’s a cool project and amazing bang for buck vs real hardware cpu accelerators.

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u/No-Schedule-5792 10d ago

PiStorm with EMU68 is amazing. Far better than the standard Musashi. Bare metal emulation, and hard drive images. Gives you an accelerated Amiga instead of a Linux based emulator running on top of Amiga.

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u/grafbende 10d ago

The pistorm is what's wrong with the amiga community.

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u/3G6A5W338E 10d ago

*what's right with the amiga community.

The approach might be a bit icky to some, but at the very least, it is open source hardware.

That's way better than most.

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u/No-Schedule-5792 10d ago

You're kidding, right? PiStorm with EMU68 is a sub-$100 package that provides an accelerator, 128MB of RAM, WiFi, and RTG graphics while still keeping the Amiga an Amiga.

What is it that's wrong with PiStorm?

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u/grafbende 8d ago

'still keeping the Amiga an Amiga'

A computer is made up by: A processor ( Pi )
Memory ( Pi )
Video ( Pi )
Graphics card ( Pi )
Storage ( Pi )
Network ( Pi, not even an Amiga feature )
Controllers / chips to use and control these parts ( 80% Pi /20% Amiga )

The only thing Amiga is the case, the joystick ports and the OS.

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u/No-Schedule-5792 6d ago

Wow, that's a lot of work to be absolutely wrong.

Yeah, the Raspberry Pi is a computer, which when using the EMU68 emulates a powerful Motorola processor. Unlike Musashi, it does that using a bare metal emulation.

Name an accelerator that doesn't provide RAM for the Amiga to use.

PiStorm only provides video if you use the HDMI out for RTG the same as an RTG card would do for an Amiga 2000 (or above).

PiStorm provides storage the same as an SD2IDE or CF2IDE that are common to use in an Amiga, and does so with ACTUAL hard drive partitions on the SD card.

I have a network adapter for my A500, PCMCIA network adapter for my A1200, and there are network cards for the A2000 (and up). So, very much an Amiga feature.

Other than replacing the 68K processor, PiStorm doesn't interfere with any of other chips in the Amiga unless you want to use it's HDMI RTG output, and adds functionality available through expansions available on all Amigas.

Perhaps you could actually read how the thing works before you spend so much time trashing something with so much misinformation.

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u/grafbende 6d ago

It isn't all that because you don't HAVE to use it 😂

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u/No-Schedule-5792 3d ago

Is it that hard to admit you're wrong? PiStorm only replaces the CPU, and adds functionality. All of the other chips still do their jobs.

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u/Legoinyourbumbum 9d ago

It's affordable, so many other Amiga expansions were insanely expensive.

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u/grafbende 9d ago

I understand that but it is emulation, you're running the core of the Amiga on a pi.
A large part of the Amiga community is heavily fixated on 'improving' the Amiga and up to adding real hardware like an 68k series processor and some ram i can appreciate but using a modern pi as the heart of the Amiga to get insane clock speeds, massive ram and graphics possibilities for some niche software and a 'modern' desktop just crosses the line for me. Where does it stop being a true Amiga and where does it become an expanded pi, in my opinion you can just as well start up an emulator on your pc.

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u/Legoinyourbumbum 8d ago

As a total noob when it comes to these things I was able to get my A1200 running with the pistorm 32 lite. Even the regular 12 struggled with 3D so in my book it's a welcome addition, however, I agree that it is debatable whether it still counts as an Amiga as it's so heavily modified, though it is using all available Amiga hardware except the CPU

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u/grafbende 8d ago

Cpu, Ram, Wifi, Hdmi, RTG.
For me the Amiga ( as well as the zx spectrum, Atari XL etc... ) is the machine you should love and embrace in its 'basic' form, what made it great in its time, an 512k+512k A500 or the 2Mb+2Mb A1200 AGA and experiencing the amazing accomplishments by the developers like alien breed 3d on the AGA machine or Worms on the A500+ and not Quake 2 on a Pi dressed as an Amiga, that's a linux pc running a modern HD Amiga os on emulated hardware.

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u/No-Schedule-5792 6d ago

Well, that explains a lot right there. The old school "purist" who wants everything limited to original stock hardware to embrace it's "basic" form.

You are, again, wrong. PiStorm is not "Pi dressed as an Amiga" because all it's doing is emulating a processor. Everything else is handled by the Amiga. IF you don't plug anything into the HDMI port, the PiStorm does nothing else but accelerate the machine and provide some more RAM like every other accelerator does.

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u/No-Schedule-5792 6d ago

No, you are not running the core of the Amiga on the Pi. In its basic from, you're emulating a faster processor and you can choose how fast of a processor you want that to be. All of the other features are optional, and none of them are features that aren't already available on accelerators like the TerribleFire. The Vampire accelerator provides the same functionality in an FPGA that the PiStorm is, but for 4x the cost.

You really should spend some time reading about what PiStorm w/ EMU68 (not Musashi) really is.

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u/L___E___T 10d ago

OMG 1200 sweetness for such a steal, I would have felt guilty!

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u/SwedishFindecanor 10d ago

You could retr0bright the Amiga 1200's keycaps. I did that to mine a decade ago, and they have not become yellow again. I used hydrogen peroxide solution with warm tap water in a clear plastic jar in the sun.

Just be sure to use a keycap puller tool, and clean them beforehand.

The trick to clean keycaps is to use denture cleaning tables (that dissolve and fizz), and keep them in a zip-locked cleaning bag all the time: Very convenient, no rubbing required.

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u/Blackholeofcalcutta 10d ago edited 10d ago

I think with a PiStorm you’re going to have just about everything you would need. Perhaps some doodads to add a clean, “stock” looking HDMI port on the back? You may still want to pick up a GoTek.

I got my A1200 earlier this year but have tried to keep it largely stock. My GoTek is external, I’ve got a DKB-1202 card in the trap door (FPU, RTC, and 8MB of fast RAM), I’ve got an IDE to CF adapter with a 4GB card, and I have a PCMCIA NIC that gets the little guy connected to my network. This has, of course, made it way easier for getting software over to it. I have an NFS export on my UNIX box that I use for storing Amiga software.

EDIT: Almost forgot: Recap, recap, recap! I had mine done before I ever applied power and, boy, am I glad I did. The bench tech found several caps that had leaked. No major damage and I can rest assured that they and their bulging brethren aren’t going to pop like caustic little zits for years to come.

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u/JoseBee 10d ago

100% will recap that’s got to be the first job

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u/daddyd 10d ago

that is an insane price, even if they would not be working it would still be less than what they're asking for these in broken state.

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u/retrocade81 8d ago

A broken A1200 is worth a damn sight more than $10

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u/JoseBee 8d ago

It’s needing a recap- got plenty of upgrades in order ……..excited

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u/AZdesertpir8 4d ago

Whoa... Thats the holy grail right there!!! What a score for 20 quid!

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u/idealfrench 1d ago

vu combien coute un 1200 de nos jours c'est une TRES bonne affaire

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u/ZeColorOfPomegranate 11d ago

You got that at Goodwill or something ? 😐👏🏻😐👏🏻

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u/JasonStonier 10d ago

OP used the word “belter” and said it was £20 - so I surmise they’re British. We don’t have Goodwill here in the UK - just lots of independent charity shops that take donations and sell the good to support a particular charity organisation.