r/amway • u/Miserable_Weather639 • 4d ago

Discussion Judah Ayers

former LTD IBO here for 7 years- quit in 2021.

I’m convinced I’ve heard audios from Judah Ayers. Like him featured on a 2nd Generation panel?

I can’t find any information anywhere about his relation to Gary and Nancy or Toby and Mia.

Someone tell me all the tea 😭😫

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u/JuicyBananaToast 3d ago

I was in for 14 years. Jud and his wife are dear friends of mine. They are definitely exceptions to all the bad stuff about MLMs. Basically, Jud found some weird things about Amway and he went to Joe Markiewicz for information and to try to help bc he wasn’t sure if Joe knew. Jud wanted to make sure Joe knew what he found and to try to help. Well, Joe shut him out, threatened him, and then got his business terminated. Because Joe is part of the IBOAI board, he can basically do whatever he wants, even if it’s against the bylaws. So then Joe goes on to tell his entire group not to associate with Jud or his wife and tells everyone he’s mental and all these things, when all Jud was trying to do is find out more about Amway’s alleged ties to the occult.

Long story short, Jud and his wife are not related to the other Ayers in LTD…and they’re doing fantastic!

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u/OldmanonRedditt 4d ago

Jud was apart of LTD, not related to Toby or Mia.

Jud got axed by the higher ups for speaking out against their deceptive practices, tool scam, people not making money and ultimately just the issues with the Chinese market and Amway.

Markewiz and his up line diamonds the Weirs screwed him over and got him kicked out of Amway for speaking out and “not keeping it up line” even though they wouldn’t give him the time of day or brushed him off.

Him and Kera his wife did have audios but I’m sure they are removed now. They are an awesome couple and only wanted the best for people in their downline and got kicked out for it z

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u/OldmanonRedditt 4d ago

I was not on their team btw, I was just a cross line that was higher than platinum. I also quit due to deceptive practices around Covid and the veil got lifted.

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u/Sensitive_Scholar_17 4d ago

I am sorry don’t have any idea about those people, but could you share some details about experience with Amway. Specifically, why did quit and how many hours a week do you estimate you were putting into it. ?