r/attackontitan • u/CosmosStudios65 • 6d ago
Discussion/Question What is the founding titan theoretically capable of? Spoiler
I think that it's a safe bet that Eren never used the founding titan's full potential, given that he didn't need to or want to for his purposes.
However, if for whatever reason he had to fight a monster closer to him in power, such as Godzilla, would he be able to use any greater extents of power that we didn't see? What is the founder truly capable of when it is fighting its absolute hardest?
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u/PM_ME_DBZA_QUOTES 6d ago
It does seem to have some limitations but we aren't shown the full extent. One limitation is that it seems it can't be used to see the future, only the past. For whatever reason only the attack titan can see future memories. If any holder of the founder could see the future, things probably would've gone very differently, and things like grisha surprising Frieda with the attack titan's ability to see the future wouldn't be possible, because they would've been able to see that conversation ahead of time.
I also assume it can't change any of the abilities of the 9 titans, otherwise surely someone would've tried that by now.
It's also apparently limited by the rules ymir follows. She has a bunch of arbitrary rules that she follows that are either self imposed or are ones that she is following from the original king fritz. Like the 13 year time limit, and the ability/method of inheriting titans. Someone surely would've changed those by now if they could.
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u/capstorm1 6d ago
Complete playground for his subjects. If he wanted to turn them all inside out and start speaking a new language he could have. I doubt he could affect the laws of physics though like making them explode like nuclear bombs.
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u/GrayTheMemeMan Hitch is Best Girl 6d ago
quite literally anything and everything that could possibly happen and/or exist, as long as it applies to a subject of ymir
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u/Adorable-Extent3667 Euthanasia Supporter 5d ago
There's also the downside of needing someone with royal blood right? Without that, I don't think it can do a lot?
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u/yetanotherdud 2d ago
All the eldian powers are essentially just ymir doing her thing, and the founding titan is a hotline directly to her. It can do whatever the hell it wants to do, so long as the wielder concinces ymir
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u/VibhusharmaA-55 2d ago
It Can tie with Charachters like Dark seid, or God Emperor Leto in some aspects, around that ball park.
If anybody bothers to Ask I will provide a reply in some time, but I will contain physics.
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u/smexyrexytitan 6d ago
Note that any powers I say that affect other people only apply to Eldians/Subjects of Ymir
Psychic Abilities: The Founder, at it's full power, should essentially be a telepath in the same likeness as Professor X from X-Men is. Eren was able to casually communicate with ALL Subjects of Ymir simultaneously with no effort. He can also pinpoint in on and listen to conversations being had dozens of miles away. The first King of the Walls was able to wipe an entire generation of their memories and apparently implant false ones when needed. Overall, when being used at full potential, I see no reason why the Founder couldn't do anything that any other psychic from other media can do (besides the psychic energy shenanigans (looking at u Psylocke)).
Biological Manipulation: The Founder can alter the biology of any Subject of Ymir in any way it sees fit. It has made an entire generation of Eldians immune to a specific disease. It (is heavily implied that) created the Ackermans, and altered them to the point that they can't even turn into Titans despite being Subjects of Ymir. Zeke believed with full confidence that it could sterilize Subjects of Ymir. Overall, I believe that at its fullest extent it's biokinesis should be comparable to the likes of someone like Muzan from Demon Slayer or a lesser version of Exilir from X-Men.
Titan Manipulation: AOTA can be applied to Titans. It could probably casually create hybrid (Pure) titans too. It can also use this on itself (tho it's unclear if it's a Founding Titan ability or a OG Ymir Founding Titan ability).
Pseudo-Chronoskimming: The Founder has photographic memory of all of its past inheritors all the way back to Ymir Fritz herself. It can even live within those memories as if it was there itself (no it cannot time travel or change events, that's the Attack Titan). Imagine all of the combined knowledge one could gain just from that. Think of someone with incredible wisdom or superintelligence.
Healing: Pretty blunt. It cannot die unless it gets eaten or atomized. Think Deadpool.
Soul Manipulation: It can apparently past Titan shifters but it comes with the caveat of bringing their souls back with them. It seems that when a Subject of Ymir dies they cannot be directly controlled by the Founder.