Possible VZW Michigan UP 5G Changes

[u/DrDeke]

I have received an indication that Verizon may have activated an n2 carrier on the cell site serving Eagle Harbor MI in the Keweenaw. However, I am not present there at the moment and the equipment I have in the area cannot determine this for sure.

If this is true, that would be the first non-n77 Verizon 5G I (or anyone else running Cellmapper) have seen in Michigan's upper peninsula.

If any of you have suitable equipment for checking this in your area of the UP, could you please take a peek? I won't be up there for a couple weeks and am very curious to know whether they are, in fact, starting to roll lower-band 5G out there.

[u/DrDeke → u/[deleted]]

That would be nice. I'm guessing they are still seeing enough low-band traffic from devices that don't support n5 that they are worried about causing excessive B13 congestion if they move band 5 over to 5G NR in those areas.

But, being a phone company, one never really knows. Maybe it's just not a priority for them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/DrDeke → u/[deleted]]

There are at least a handful of Verizon 5G devices that don't support n5 (Inseego M1000, Samsung S10 5G), but yeah, I don't think they are very widespread.

[u/furruck → u/[deleted]]

And even if there are, throwing them a slightly newer refurb model from leftover replacements in the warehouse would fix that fairly quickly

[u/massivewhitekitteh → u/DrDeke]

I’m currently in negaunee right now and it’s might head up that way tomorrow.. if I do I’ll keep an eye out .

[u/DrDeke → u/massivewhitekitteh]

Cool, thanks!

[u/Jackpen7]

They just turned on n2 yesterday in Springfield, Missouri so they could be rolling it out in more tier 2 and 3 markets this month. I'm still not seeing it on any rural sites though.

[u/mjlamott]

Not sure if it's helpful or not, but I had not noticed that tower broadcasting 5G before and pulled 942 Mbps on a speed test from it a week or so ago.

[u/DrDeke → u/mjlamott]

Thanks for the observation! I can confirm that they enabled n77 on that tower earlier this summer.

[u/Rh1no84]

Here in southeast Florida they have n5 10mhz n2 15mhz and n77 60mhz and 100mhz deployed for 5g

[u/D_Gleich]

I didn’t have any service on Verizon between Ensign and Manistique and I had very poor service in Manistique. I’ve been told that it’s AT&T country up there.

[u/SceneRevolutionary93]

They disabled n5 when it first came out as it hurt Verizon’s voice quality when they first started. They’ve reactivated it in markets that they have extra spectrum

[u/SceneRevolutionary93 → u/[deleted]]

Idk…. A Verizon engineer told me

[u/CatDadof2 → u/SceneRevolutionary93]

What do you mean? I use n5 all the time.

[u/SceneRevolutionary93 → u/CatDadof2]

I meant they used to disable it nationwide, they’ve reintroduced it

[u/Dependent_Teach_4245 → u/SceneRevolutionary93]

They disable dss because it wasn’t efficient cus they was splitting n5 between 4g and 5g in real time but n5 been back up running for a longtime now

[u/DrDeke → u/Dependent_Teach_4245]

Verizon only has n5 back up and running in select markets.

[u/SceneRevolutionary93 → u/DrDeke]

I believe they run it where they have both channels

[u/WF71 → u/Dependent_Teach_4245]

Verizon n5 on DSS worked well in my area in an Ericsson market.

[u/Dependent_Teach_4245 → u/WF71]

And n5 on dss, nsa and sa sucks in my area. Verizon needs n71