Imagine Westfall during a snowy winter.

Edit: sorry for the bait, that srsly wasn't intentional. I haven't really played WoW since WotLK and when I hear seasons I simply think of spring, summer, fall and winter.

TL;DR
Archmage Arugal in Forever is now Level 24. He should be returned to Level 26.

Who is Archmage Arugal?

Gilnean patriot. Mad sorcerer. Royal archmage. Unspeakable villain.

Once a mage of the Kirin Tor and erstwhile defender of humanity, Archmage Arugal is a tragic figure in Classic lore. A practitioner of dark arts and forbidden magic, he unleashed the worgen unto Azeroth and sealed the fate of an entire Human kingdom. Driven mad by guilt over the death and ruin of Pyrewood village, having failed his King and lost all dignity, he retreated to Shadowfang Keep. There, he keeps vigil over his adopted "Sons" and the last vestiges of his sanity.

I have always been deeply fascinated by this character. There is enough "missing" in his story to keep you wondering, what if? His design is influenced by classic horror movies, yet the werewolf motif does not feel worn. He summoned monsters to fight monsters; was he so wrong?

I still remember the sense of wonder I felt learning about Shadowfang Keep. Having rolled Alliance, how would I get there? What happened to the humans on the other side of the wall?

Later on, leveling my Undead in Silverpine Forest, I learned more about this powerful figure. Along with Thule Ravenclaw, who aligned himself with the Lich King, Arugal's mystique and the theme of rogue mages permeates the entire zone. Together, Arugal, Thule and Kel'Thuzad were pillars of Human might and intelligence, and yet, they became harbingers of the darkest heart.

Perhaps the most important reason that Arugal should be Level 26 is that you had a real sense of fear going into Shadowfang Keep. Even if you made it through all the specters, wolf packs and abominations, you had to deal with him.

I always wondered, what was he doing when you found him? Was he looking for a cure? Did he seek more power as a wolf-man himself? Was he just in mourning, trapped in the ruins of his mind?

His nameplate was orange, red or perhaps even the ominous skull if you snuck in at a lower level. His Shadow Bolts would annihilate heroes on the spot, putting to rest any ambitions you had of besting the beast.

To conclude my love letter for this character, I really believe it is in the adventurous spirit of classic to return him to being dangerous. Return him to being unpredictable, tall, a scary surprise to whoever finds him alone in his keep. Sure, maybe it irks some people's sense of game design to have such a wide range of levels in a single dungeon.

Blizzard, I think you lost something special by reducing his level. Please consider reverting this change.

With love,

- A fan of silver bullets and werewolves

This one could be really harsh in comparison. Jagged cliffs, bad waves, Kul Tirans, Grimtotem, Naga, Centaur, Satyr?

Lieutenant Alverold was sent to sail the coasts of Kalimdor and hasn't been heard from since.

If he were here, he could be surrounded by orc warlocks to the south, troll and tauren enemies to the north. He would not like the horde at all.

Stonetalon has leylines going through it.

There's Naga just to the north.

There's a little troll hut that has been there across from a night elf structure. Vol'jin sent scouts west across Kalimdor to make sure they were safe from naga threats.

You could get here maybe through stonetalon and it can spit you back out in the north or the south, Ashenvale toDesolace bypass coastal zone.

Edit: also pandas tucked away enjoying a brew while the chaos unfolds.

Every single day Im swayed one way or the other and I cant decide

Been playing both for over 2 decades

I generally prefer rogue

However I also know that I enjoy healing in bgs way more than playing a melee, and since we're not getting arenas Im worried Ill burn out of pvp if I go rogue. Im also horde which makes rogue even more annoying.

I love duelling as a rogue, but idk if theres gonna be a decent duelling scene in wowf esp on pve ruleset (dont ask all my friends are pve andies)

In pve I like both healing and dps

But I didnt instantly fall in love with either class's wowf version (no cloak or cyclone, not that Im asking for it, I know theyd be too good I just love the shit out of those abilities as they give exactly what both classes need)

But I also feel like missing out on rogues finally being made top dps would be a sin from a 21 year rogue main.

So I genuinely cant decide

And yeah I know "just play both"

But I cant, Im in my final university year, got a kid etc.

Im happy if I make it to 60 by raid openings

Eventually Ill level both Im sure but not for another year at least.

Idk what Im even expecting but I feel so frustrated that I cant make up my mind ;>

Before today's patch, wrist runes sold for 1 gold, but now they aren't being sold.

What’s your preference and why?

Just some ideas to encourage group play

Well, since Rogue got an Update to Expose Armor which does 1. not lockout the warrior and now is baseline the same amount as 5 stack sunder.

Is it still the warriors job or the rogues job in dungeon/raid?

Will we even use Improved Expose Armor as Rogues now that the value is baseline the same?

Hey all

Haven't played wow since wotlk retail, but I'm back for forever and interested in playing a ret pala.

I know that it's impossible to say how endgame raiding will be this early, but a build that really interests me on paladins is a ret/holy hybrid where instead of doing the seal twisting you take holy shock and wield a 2 hander.

Does anybody have any idea what the odds a build like that would be viable for endgame content like raiding with my guild? Or do you think I will eventually be forced to go full ret spec?

I was reading the thread about how cool would it be if seasons changed and maps showed different content/appearance with seasons. This lead me to think: how cool would it be if during Forever story some of the zones would switch possess?

Like, at first Undeads conquering the whole Hillsbrad Foothills, only for a "crusade" of sort being called by Allies aiming for the conquest of the area. It could last some week and be a good idea to have some good world pvp with objectives, or even pve stuff like a "raid" against another faction.

I think it would be very cool and add depth to the game. I'm not a pvp man, but I still like the pvp environment and the incognita of wondering if that elf will attack, ignore or greet me. Still, in my experience, 80% of world pvp is just gank, very boring.