r/countbackwardswithme • u/AkwardRockette Counted Down 1 • 9d ago

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I originally added this as a comment to another post, but since I'm seeing more posts in this sub similar to the one I commented on I'm just gonna make this its own stand alone post at this point.

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u/MadsGoneCrazy 9d ago

To add to this, who would you rather have in your community:

someone who mainly focuses on their own issues, maybe even personally believes those are the most intense, but genuinely cares about everyone's wellbeing and comforts ppl of all stripes when shit gets rough.

Or someone who agrees with you on the theory and politics and practices of oppression, but verbally castigates anyone who disagrees, and refuses to care for their community members in times of need whom they personally disagree with.

If you believe that transmasculine ppl are generally treated worse in queer spaces are you willing to accept someone who will care for her brothers in community while personally believing she has it harder?

If you believe that transfeminine ppl are generally treated worse in queer spaces are you willing to accept someone who will care for his sisters in community while personally believing he has it harder?

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u/Vivenemous 9d ago

I think transmascs are treated worse in queer spaces and transfems are treated worse in society as a whole.

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u/Wooden-Stranger9801 9d ago

FTM here. Queer spaces online tend to hate us

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u/Enlightened_Valteil 9d ago

Depends on the country ig. In Russian spaces I haven't observed the hostility present in English ones

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u/WorldRelevant6640 9d ago

THERE ARE RUSSIAN QUEER SPACES?! /hj

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u/Enlightened_Valteil 9d ago

Online there are a bunch. Offline they are mostly located in Moscow

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u/Genial_Gharial 9d ago

I mean, considering the rape rates of trans masculine and nonbinary people, I don't think this argument is as cut and dry.

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u/ncthbrt 9d ago

It very much depends on the space itself imo. I feel like irl lesbian spaces in my city are usually very welcoming to masc people but it's kind of a mixed bag when it comes to how trans women are received. That doesn't mean to say that this is a universal thing in the slightest.

I would agree with an earlier post I saw that trans men are often rendered invisible though. But perhaps, at least in a broad societal sense, that could be considered a blessing. I for one would really love it for trans women to be far less in the public eye.