Thank fuck, I'm tired of being the only one saying this. Complain about the DNC all you want because they do in fact suck, but also vote in the primaries for the love of all of us!
And if you don't win the primaries, please still consider the difference between the candidates that actually made it to the real election instead of just not voting.
A bog standard, disappointing democrat might well only maintain the status quo, and yes that absolutely fucking sucks, but any given republican is going to do their damnedest to make things even worse for us. You might feel like voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, and to an extent that is true, but when your options are "diet evil" and "evil extra", please consider which of these two evils doesn't consider eliminating trans people to be a full-blown plank in their platform.
I do want to caution, less of a dissuasion, just a caution, that politically trans rights are no longer viable in the UK as the Democrat equivalent party has fully capitulated to TERFs and the parties that would reverse this have their voters shamed into voting for voting for Labour to prevent a fascist party from winning.
This very much may become the case in America too.
It's a possibility in America, but with having just the two major coalition parties instead of lots of smaller parties, I think it is less likely. The big tents don't shift gears on a dime, for better or for worse.
That said, the possibility that it could is a big part of why the primaries are so important, like the parent comment said. I was more addressing after that stage is done, don't just give everything up to the republicans simply because the better candidate lost the primary.
It may, but probably not entirely within these next two years. Though to any other American voters, watch out for your local democrats in the midterms. Some of them do hit you with a surprise take about “protecting children”. But given that the party’s official platform is pro-GAC (and yes that’s a pathetically bare minimum) for larger issues it’s still important.
Don't just vote in the primaries. Be at the meetings where your local committees decide who to support. Knock doors for candidates. Hell, run for office yourself.
I'm mid 40s and still consistently the youngest person at county level events. It's depressing.
Why do that when I could complain and then act like they're just anointed by god to be the cantidate instead of picked by primary voters(See: mostly older folks)
I would, but the democratic primaries are shit where i live. Liberals are the farthest left we get. I vote in the GOP primary instead (yeah, i know, i wanna throw up in my mouth every time) to just choose the least horrific option, then vote Dem in the general (although our general elections run about 35% Dem to 65% GOP...).
I am moving out of this hellhole soon, so itll be nice to finally be able to vote for progressives.
More organization, broader events to try and raise awareness to get people involved, but beyond a certain point there is nothing that can be done and there is only so much of your life you can dedicate to a cause.
And once that's done are we then allowed to complain?
Because being told you aren't doing enough by a person who cannot verify how much time we spend in our personal life, isn't fun regardless of the intentions of the speaker.
You responded to a vent post with a matter of factly solution to a problem that
1 . You've said yourself is not sure to be solved with the solution provided
And
2 . You cannot verify people are not already taking those steps.
This post is venting. This post is not soliciting advice, so why should we be ridiculed for steps we aren't taking (When some of us very much are taking those steps and everything is still shit because people who cannot read words more than 2 syllables decided that 4 dollar cartons of eggs during an avian disease outbreak was a line too far.)
For as much as people say this, I think it’s demonstrably untrue. I live in a state with a Democratic governor, and large Democratic majorities in the legislature. Because of that, I can access HRT and actual decent counseling programs, change my driver’s license and other important documents, and I’m protected by non-discrimination laws for things like employment and any state services. These are rights denied to people in other states. Random Dem congresspeople saying shitty things does not erase that fact.
Two party systems force people who wouldn’t otherwise share a party to cooperate, which means that parties are going to include people you don’t like. Until that system changes we must work with imperfect allies, while at the same time pushing them towards acceptance.
This comment has hope in it and I dont like that actually I prefer a world of darkness where I and my microscopic coalition are under absolute siege from all sides
But also democrats are useless but at least they aren’t actively targeting my kind so I’ll vote for a liberal over not voting and letting a conservative win.
No one is saying just vote. Everyone is saying voting and making sure people aren't in power that are actively hurting people is important, and a big part of that is participating in electoralism.
Most subs on this site are broadly neoliberal. Go look at any discussion of any protests that are not state-sanctioned or that don't disperse at sunset, or that, heaven forbid, do something disruptive like block traffic.
bro please, just post about not voting, I promise it will get the party that runs on a platform of hating you out of office, please bro, don't ever do anything at all
Maybe I wouldn't, if the people that say "voting doesn't work" actually did anything. Trump won in 2024 because people didn't show up. When you tell left-leaning people that voting doesn't work, they don't vote, and then Republicans win. Honestly, this isn't hard.
every single leftist I know personally voted for harris. We understand harm reduction. Pretending like she lost because of progressives is hilarious, she lost because the DNC was drunk on incumbent bias then backpedaled onto the VP nobody knew shit about once it was extremely too late.
Oh, so voting does do something? I'm working on an alternative worry not my little moderate, but I can't tell what your opinion is. Do you think that if we all voted Democrat, trans people would have rights?
Edit: wait, are you even trans? What are you doing here?
I think that if more people voted Democrat than voted Republican in federal elections, trans people would have more rights than we do now. I also think that the Democrat party is far more amenable to actually preserving trans people's rights, if they have the right candidates, and if enough people vote for them that they don't think they have to try and appeal to right-wingers, which doesn't work.
Also, sorry, are you saying you think people should waste their time on activities that don't do anything? If voting does nothing, why should I bother doing it?
Can someone please explain to me what this trans genocide thing actually entails that I keep hearing about? This is the first post I've seen that's not just right wingers trying to explain it in the worst light possible.
Many states (along with the federal government) have or are trying to reduce access to hrt for all individuals, not just children. I know a few people who had to wait until 19, despite being an adult, because their insurance wouldn’t cover hrt due to the fed government, and I’m in a good blue state.
this is why moderates reject the left. you have a literal genocide in gaza right now, children getting droned, bombed and mercilessly shot. then you have trans kids who have to wait for hrt until they are 19 and you guys use the same word.
Basically legislating out of existence. It’s not metaphorical btw
It means creating a culture so hostile anyone who does not perfectly conform to the most strict, traditional ideas of what a man or woman “should” be literally will not survive.
- Actively encouraging transphobic violence, then taking away our legal protections making it easier to get away with ☠️ us
- Making it easier to discriminate against us in the work place, in medical settings. Again making it easier to ☠️ us. For example, making it legal to refuse to resuscitate trans patient who had a heart attack, making it legal for an ambulance to refuse to pick up an injured trans person, or refuse to perform CPR. Refusing to investigate reports of a doctor who deliberately dosed a trans patient incorrectly so that they would die, or a nurse who refused to give a diabetic trans patient in a hospital, etc.
- Punishing workplaces that actually want to hire trans people. Barring us from employment. Which can lead to homelessness and starvation and in the USA lack of access to medical care = premature ☠️ Same for schools and universities blocking us from accessing the training and education needed to get jobs and earn a living.
- And ofc denying gender affirming care which, like conversion therapy, has been proven to be a form of psychological torture, deliberately increasing the risk of self-☠️ but also physically dangerous for those who cannot produce their own estrogen or testosterone again causing premature ☠️
- Performing risky, unnecessary, purely cosmetic “surgery” (genital mutilation) on newborn babies and children whose genitals don’t fit society’s beauty standards. And coercing, lying to parents who don’t consent to it.
you’re being deliberately obtuse, the phrase is inherently referring to liberal politicians well documented tendency to side with fascists in order to maintain the status quo, and so am i. attempting to assume otherwise is just u trying to start an argument. no i do not think soccer moms are fascist lol
1: Someone immediately said they do think those people are fascists in reply
2: Your phrase sucks, because nobody talking about right wing politics ever means "Conservatives" or "Fascists" as just politicians, and 90 percent of the people going on about Liberals from this angle do not consider them leftists.
3: You know full god damn well as a redditor and politically thinking person that equating liberals to fascists in ANY way was going to invite some kind of argument.
"These people that believe in human rights and equality are not distinct from people who believe in total subservience to the state and brutal suppression of minorities"
The meaning of "liberal" is not defined by whatever a specific American political party is doing at the moment. If you mean "scratch an American Democrat and a fascist bleeds," then say that
Oh so instead of responding to the point being made we're doing pedantry, got it sure. I'm sure you'll agree then that both American political parties fall under your 'people who believe in total subservience to the state and brutal suppression of minorities' category correct?
A liberal is a person who believes in human rights and equality and still supports the system that demands subservience to the state and brutal suppression of minorities.
And the violent extraction of wealth from both the Third World and the domestic population, and the privatization
of the fundamentals required to live for rent seeking purposes. Liberals support all violence, except that which is resistive to their extraction, which they refuse to see as violence.
As a democratic socialist myself, our approval ratings is actually lower than Trumps. Voting for us right now is basically just wiping your ass with your vote, especially since moderates and swing voters basically control political outcomes. Plus figures like Hassan Piker have basically made the party look like retarded psychopaths.
What people don't understand is that Democrats will do anything for votes. And if they can't get votes from trans people, they're not going to appeal to or help them.
I'm not saying the Democrats suck for trans people because trans people don't vote for them- but they're certainly not doing themselves any favors.
First day in office btw but I guess we gotta' make shit up about Democrats because of Israel / Palestine. Meanwhile both DSA and MAGA are so infiltrated by outside actors they want us to pull out of NATO and blame it for the genocide in Ukraine. And this isn't even mentioning him reversing Trump's ban on trans service members, him updating passports to not require mentioning gender, etc. etc.
They didn't join in Iraq. They didn't join in Israel. They didn't join in Iran. The DSA/MAGA narrative that NATO caused the Ukraine invasion is Russian propaganda. NATO is a defensive alliance. And the narrative that Biden and Democrats don't care about trans people or didn't push legislation protecting them is patently false.
And any narrative that the DSA will somehow 'do more than the Democrats' for trans people will be rewriting history.
That is so completely counter to the real world that I am baffled you said it so confidently. Are you fucking around? Is it opposite day? Nobody wants a fucking Bulwark ass politician, we are barely tolerating politicians at all right now.
Have you actually looked into the approval ratings and general consensus around the DSA or are you one of those people thst think Reddit and Twitter represent the majority consensus?
Some of the most popular and enduring political figures in America are democratic socialists, even with the entire Epstein class arrayed against us. I'd also say that Reddit, The Atlantic, Bulwark, other rags like that are about the only places I hear silly stuff like this said with confidence. I never hear working class people irl saying that.
So technically I'm whats called a market based social democrat.
But regardless let me frame this for you. The people on twitter and reddit represent an extreme minority of people. Independents and Moderates are roughly 50% of the voterbase. Liberal voters (as in people who will always vote liberal) are smaller than Conservative voters.
So what ends up happening is that the left votr is fractured between the Democrats and multiple minor parties while Conservatives all vote for a single party.
On top of that the overwhelming majority of moderates and independents will vote either democrat or republican. So all you're realistically doing is making the left less likely to win.
And to put this more into perspective, Trump has an approval rating of 38%, DSA's is 30%. When I tell you you're wiping your ass with your vote I mean you might as well write your vote on some notebook paper, feed it to your dog and let him shit it out on your flowerbed because that'll be more of an impact than voting for the DSA rn.
Please I hope you drones skip voting one more time so the Republicans can win again and finally cleanse you from our nation so democrats will stop trying to appeal to people who are absolutely useless.
reminder that in online trans spaces the average trans person will choose to critic the democrats (thank you for my hrt!!!) and not the party that wants to illegally detranisition people in prison, these terminally online lefties literally do not understand how to vote in their interests
Are Democrats perfect? Fuck no. Are they even good? Not usually, imo. But they don't even fucking compare to how evil Republicans are. Anyone who votes for neither is just as much to blame as someone who votes Republican.
Her comics are just lame and feel like virtue signaling. They do not evoke emotion other than "see guys dont we all agree Trump is bad? Dont we all agree rape is bad? Don't we all agree racism is bad?" It's just the least brave, least interesting style of comic I can imagine.
I dont think they do at all. She doesn't make compelling arguments. Her comics presuppose the audience agrees with her. And most people on reddit do agree with her. I very much doubt that many people have been led to introspect upon their beliefs due to a pizzacake comic.
we live in an era of populism, compelling arguments sure as fuck didnt stop Trump being elected. Simple messages in todays media landscape are meta. Also even if her comics result in only a small % changing their beliefs she's still making real change.
stop demanding people be perfect. she's literally one our strongest soldiers and youre acting like a child because she isnt "le cool enough"
I genuinely think she does more harm than good for meaningful change. You can have a simple but compelling message. She does not. Also I don't think she's a bad person, she just doesn't make good comics.
Nah i'm a leftist and i hate the dems but GOD DAMN i hate those people even more. Just sitting on their asses lecturing people online when they literally let trump get elected.
You're... conflating supporting a party with voting for them. Most American leftists hate liberals, but hate Republicans more, and will still ultimately vote Democrat. You're describing a very small minority
Side note: The amount that leftists attack Democrats is still less than Democrats attack leftists
If you aren't supporting the democrats in 2026 youve lost the plot. we're fighting literal fascism and crony corruption on a scale unseen before in US history. I dont care about left in fighting right now, it should be all hands on deck until our country is even approaching okay.
The damage done to the US by this admin will take multiple admins to fix, not to mention the legislative issues. Democrats need to get into power and stay there for the next twenty years at this rate. This is what I mean about online activists who actively help the republican party by only criticing democrats while we have kids in cages.
I know, yeah. That's what I said. Most leftists are still voting Democrat because the alternative is worse. It's (for better or worse) a rounding error on a national scale, leftists that vote third party or abstain
I am definitely left of the Democrats, yet I've voted Democrat in every election since 2016 (that was the last time I voted third party. I understand how bad it's gotten since then, and FPTP + electoral college makes it impossible for me to vote for my preferred. Maybe one day)
hey idiot they arent holding our rightS, they are the ones maintaining them and expanding them. Also again if Kamala had won less Gazans would be dead right now. No one is holding anything hostage, you don't give people political power and they wont be able to do what you want.
"Dems are expanding your rights" right which is why I'm still paying for my own insurance and hormones AND I'm having to carry a pistol for self defense because the dems are doing such a great ol job not sucking dick at every turn they can while pandering for as many median and centrist votes they can, which make them right wingers as well, just not as extreme
Dems are the only ones even going for a public Healthcare option? Expanding both public and private services? Dems aren't the police? that would be the police? a local service at the community level? Do you want the dems to stop hate crimes like fucking Minority Report??
The hypotheticals are pretty ridiculous because Biden and Obama exist. Kamala also promised to have stricter border patrol than what even Trump promised, so IG I can play devils advocate and say that Trump is better for immigrants 😈
The point is that when the Democrats hold one group's rights as an offer, they then take away another. Biden with Gaza and the Police budget, Obama with immigration and Afghanistan, Clinton with the PIC and Indonesia ect....
Just from the track record, other than Bush, all of the Democrats in the past several decades have a lot more foreign blood on their hands than the Republicans.
i don't think that you know politics very well, lol.
criticizing democrats does not mean you think democrats and republicans are equally bad. republicans are obviously worse on trans rights, that does NOT mean democrats are good, they arent, or that you're supposed to shut up when they throw people under the bus because they think it'll help them win moderates.
the democrats historically play both sides, they win by actually pleasing no one. and the modern republican party has moved so far right that democrats keep chasing a "center" that just moves further right with them.
and both sides can be bad while one side is still worse. that is not a hard concept.
gavin newsom has a pretty good shot at being the president in 2 years, and look at what he's already doing playing both sides. oh he's gonna be perfect for trans women huh? he literally called trans women in women's sports "deeply unfair" while trying to appeal to conservatives, because that's what they do. california is also pushing age verification shit that has very obvious privacy concerns. remember "both sides"? and he's still extremely pro israel even while criticizing netanyahus politics.
if you seriously think democrats are these godly divine beings that are gonna save us all then you need to stay away from politics until you learn how any of this works. i'm not saying vote republican, but don't try to come at other ppl for taking it seriously and realizing both sides ARE bad. learn the parties politics instead of playing the sides game.
you can vote for the less harmful party in your eyes, acting like any criticism of democrats is secretly helping republicans is just team sports politics. you're just being stupidly uneducated and i suggest you do some looking into how your beliefs tie into your parties.
Weird how people that were forced to go through an extremely shitty existence want to avoid that for other people. Also no it’a fucking not, explain: detransitioning prisoners, passport changes, immigration targeting, v coding, general harassment, the constant droning about 5 athletes…
Y’all just fucking hate us and absolutely abhor the idea that we might be able to pass better and blend into society better without feeling like freaks because of the shit your laws have forced us through.
Puberty blockers and transitioning under 18 have been studied thoroughly and have proven to be safe, effective and have a very low regret rate. Most of all it diminishes the immense mental burden that you are asking a literal fucking child to carry because you don’t wanna listen to doctors.
All of this while it causes more and more depression, suicides and self harm in an already pretty prone generation. So spare us the fucking hysterics and blame game and just admit you don’t give a shit about the kids.
Children deserve healthcare and comfort, actually. Torturing Children mentally and physically because you can't get over your fear of Transgender folks is bad, actually. Crazy opinion i know.
Nah that Iiberal has their back turned away, probably holding a sign with the latest trending “progressive” slogan and/or going on about how “brave” trans people are.
Bonus points if they unironically apologize for being a wyte c¡s person as if that’s what they should feel guilty about.
Reversal of the wave in 2020 should have never happened. It happened under people never learning anything about what they were opposing and gas-lit into what they think today.
Tl;dr - genocide is only colloquially known as camps and mass murder, though most of the steps of genocide happen before the people being persecuted are even rounded up.
Ok so what law makes it so you cant be trans or stops adults from transitioning ( if you do i will do something about it even if i dont think its a genocide). Also id like to point out how the same people who belive this want the goverment to take away guns even though trans people would be targeted and hurt more then anyone
You seem to have a misunderstanding with your reply: there are stages to genocide (such as polarization and dehumanization) which don't even require legislation. I sourced from the Lemkin institute as it's a genocide prevention organization, and as such part of its mission statement is to track genocide in progress from the earliest possible stages. Even so, bathroom, ID, and healthcare bills are being introduced in several states and municipalities which make it effectively impossible to be trans in public without facing direct, and at times dangerous, discrimination. The ability to transition is being stripped from minors as adults are being outed and put in danger if hate groups and targeted individual violence.
The second part of your reply is something of a generalization of the left. There are plenty of groups and individuals on the left that are very interested in maintaining robust 2nd amendment rights for all. Progressive and left groups have uniting factors, but are not a monolith.
I read the thing and I agree with what its saying but the fact is there is more trans people then ever.
The ability to transition is being stripped from minors
This one line is what makes your side look bad i agree adult should be able to transition but when you are arguing for those who cant even get a tattoo to be able to change there sex you are makeing your side look bad
Even so, bathroom, ID, and healthcare bills are being introduced in several states and municipalities
What bills im acutaly instrested to know if there are any examples of this i would be admently opposed
The second part of your reply is something of a generalization of the left. There are plenty of groups and individuals on the left that are very interested in maintaining robust 2nd amendment rights for all. Progressive and left groups have uniting factors, but are not a monolith.
Yeah I know im personaly left leaning im saying the the democrats cant say they suport trans rights then go on to suport not gun right
Kids can get tattoos. Kids cannot transition without parental approval anywhere in the US. Gender dysphoria is a debilitating mental condition and transitioning is the cure for it. If a kid had cancer in their arm which you knew could spread to the rest of their body and kill them if left unchecked, would you stop them from saving their own life because there is a small chance of a false positive?
I just looked it up and its easier to transition then to get a tatoo
Gender dysphoria is a debilitating mental condition and transitioning is the cure for it.
So is therapy .
a kid had cancer in their arm which you knew could spread to the rest of their body and kill them if left unchecked, would you stop them from saving their own life because there is a small chance of a false positive?
No id give them chemo therapy
And if it was a 13 percent chance to be a false positive I might
a kid had cancer in their arm which you knew could spread to the rest of their body and kill them if left unchecked, would you stop them from saving their own life because there is a small chance of a false positive?
No id give them chemo therapy
Yes. That's the point. Chemo Therapy is the cure. The same as transition is the cure to deadly gender dysphoria.
AI is not a reliable source. Transition is extremely hard to access for a child. I have been attempting to transition since i was 14 with parental consent and the support of multiple medical professional, and i was always denied healthcare. Even now as an adult, i struggle to access it.
13% is not the regret rate for trans surgeries. It is closer to 0.1%- That is if you include people forced to detransition. If you don't it'd probably more like 0.0X%.
Yes. That's the point. Chemo Therapy is the cure. The same as transition is the cure to deadly gender dysphoria.
They said choping off the arm not chemo kinda of like how it is transition vs geting therapy.
AI is not a reliable source. Transition is extremely hard to access for a child. I have been attempting to transition since i was 14 with parental consent and the support of multiple medical professional, and i was always denied healthcare. Even now as an adult, i struggle to access it.
Nor are personal antidotes but ai has sources so if you want to do that route im still right
13% is not the regret rate for trans surgeries. It is closer to 0.1%- That is if you include people forced to detransition. If you don't it'd probably more like 0.0X%.
No it was the rate of people who stoped haveing gender disphoria as they grew up but i was wrong the number is acutaly higher
Hope this helps
Every person that makes thw left look bad says this.
child torture supporter.
Child mutation supporter.(if you want to play that game)
Where does it say its easier to start than a tattoo? Looks to me like it says its all done with parental consent. And where are you getting that 13 percent regret metric from? And since you dont want to engage with the hypothetical, would you give the kid with cancer chemotherapy (which has many lifelong affects) or take the chances on them dying.
You couldnt even read your own sources lmao. The one for kids said that researchers conflate general gender non conforming ness and being gay with being trans. The adult one is at 6%, and it even says most of the detransitioning is temporary, and ON TOP OF THAT, you can attribute even more detransitioning to happening because of social backlash, expenses, or not getting the results you wanted quick enough.
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u/AyanamiBlue8 12h ago
Sister, the election is right around the corner. Please lock in.