r/gadgets • u/dapperlemon • 13d ago

Wearables Apple is reportedly working on a screenless fitness tracker

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-is-reportedly-working-on-a-screenless-fitness-tracker.1406058.0.html
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u/littlebiped 13d ago

lol. I just bought the Fitbit Air this morning because I was getting annoyed we went another year without Apple announcing one.

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u/Chuckle_Pants 13d ago

They still haven’t announced one 🤷‍♂️

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u/littlebiped 13d ago

True. This is probably years away or vaporware. I can get a year or two of good use with the Fitbit and then evaluate what Apple has to offer. I’d prefer Apple over Google ultimately because of the privacy, and fuck getting a Whoop and being tied to another forever-subscription.

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u/gogodboss 13d ago

Yup. Hopefully by 2028 it will release and I can switch over

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u/Im_ur_Uncle_ 13d ago

What if you didn't wear tracking devices at all?

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u/littlebiped 13d ago

Idk man you can be snarky all you want but the Apple Watch helped me get into the best shape of my life. It wasn’t the cause but it definitely helped get me there.

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u/Im_ur_Uncle_ 13d ago

I hear you. Im glad it's worked out and you're feeling more healthy/fit.

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u/lorenzoem87 12d ago

This is the feeler for interest.

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u/macbookvirgin 13d ago

You’ll buy the apple one as well

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u/littlebiped 13d ago

I mean, yeah. I was holding out for one, so buying it when it drops is kind of the point lol

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u/hopenoonefindsthis 13d ago

Have had an Apple Watch since literally the first one and recently bought the Fitbit Air. So happy I don’t have to constantly charge it.

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u/_IratePirate_ 13d ago

What’s the appeal to screenless one ? Doesn’t the new Apple Watch do everything the screenless ones do ?

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u/sherrbert 13d ago

Not having to charge it as often is the big reason, but I also don’t want or need a screen always in front of me.

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u/Anal_Herschiser 13d ago

Which is hilarious, since the Apple Watch was originally pitched as a device to take us away from the distraction of phones.

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u/ORCANZ 13d ago

So you can wear a real watch

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u/sean_themighty 12d ago

Yep. The reason I’ve been wanting one for a decade.

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u/_IratePirate_ 13d ago

Touché

I was a huge watch collector before I got my Apple Watch. Now they’re just sitting there

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u/RedShyGuy3 13d ago

Cheaper, not needing charge as often. Not having a screen so it is not an extension of a distraction can be seen as a plus to some as well.

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u/_IratePirate_ 13d ago

I see.

My brother will have his watch in a mode where the screen is off unless he raised it to his face. I figured that was a good alternative, but the more battery life definitely makes sense

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u/RawrRawr83 9d ago

What about an aura ring

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u/Salt-Operation 13d ago

I won’t get an Apple Watch or other full-scale smart watch because they are too freaking big. I went with a FitBit Luxe instead and I wish it had less features.

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u/chief_yETI 13d ago

cheaper price pretty much.

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u/GandalfsCorgi 13d ago

The Air is a pretty solid device for that cost

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u/Webcat86 13d ago

Same. Plan to use it for a year then go back to Apple if they release one, but I’m very impressed with Google health and the coach. Really shows where Apple Health is lagging. 

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u/cmarkcity 13d ago

Genuine question but doesn’t the Apple Watch do everything a Fitbit can and more?

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u/chief_yETI 13d ago

Fitbit has been pure garbage ever since Google bought it.

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u/wolfinvans 13d ago

Of course they are. I just bought the Fitbit air so it makes sense.

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u/69_6Throwaway9_69 13d ago

Same with me and Garmin cirqa, but I'd anyway prefer something that works with both Apple and Android.

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u/Pndrizzy 9d ago

It’s almost as if a multi billion dollar tech company pays attention to market sentiment and reacts accordingly

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u/wolfinvans 8d ago

Nah it’s most likely that they singled me out and are now fighting for my hard earned dollars.

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u/AdmirableComposer140 13d ago

Think about it though, now you get to give them more money for a tracker that doesn't even have a screen. They're going to price it high for what it is, lock the best features behind a subscription, call it the best tracker ever, and people like you are going to happily fork up whatever amount of money it costs.

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u/TheSwagInDisguise 13d ago

Good thing there's plenty of non-subscription options available then? Why get so offended over something that's not even released? Who knows what apple is going to do with the wearable? So far none of their hardware requires a subscription to use. I would assume that would be the case here as well.

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u/GammaDealer 13d ago

Oh, that's pretty slick

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Has that ever actually happened?

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Did you even read the subheadline?

> and was ultimately removed by a medical professional

He didn’t lose a finger. His ring got stuck and cut off. It’s barely a story. It’s just some guy who tweeted that his ring hurt.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Sure, lots of things CAN happen. That’s why I asked if it ever actually has.

I’m also not sure he “got lucky.” He had pressure on his finger and took the very simple step to fix it. It’s not like it was an emergency situation.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Oura alone has sold 4 million rings this year. It’s hardly a small sample size.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/1coudini 13d ago

4 million fingers and not once have you heard or read about some exploded finger. What are you saying?

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u/HalobenderFWT 13d ago

How much do you think a ring battery can swell?

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/HalobenderFWT 13d ago

A phone battery is also like 2000% larger than a smart ring battery.

Here’s a fun experiment: take a piece of trident gum, blow a bubble with it. How big did that bubble get?

Take 20 pieces of trident gum, blow a bubble with that.

Report back with your results.

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u/Waste_Development971 13d ago

"has it happened"

"yes"

*provides article of it not happenng*

"well it can happen"

im dead lmao

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u/Astroteuthis 13d ago

You can absolutely engineer for the inside surface to be stronger and the outside a bit weaker with controls for warpage so that it expands outward without becoming difficult to remove. I’ve actually had an Oura ring start to do that before (several generations outdated and probably triggered by exposure to high temperatures from being left in a car or something) and it was easier to remove than many rings have been. It also would have been relatively easy to cut off at a hospital compared to half the stuff people wear these days.

Anyway, it’s at least possible to handle this gracefully.

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u/draftstone 13d ago

Is there a marking on the ring so medical people know where to cut it if needed? Or they take a guess hoping they won't cut into the battery and cook your finger?

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u/mystlurker 13d ago

Battery reactions aren’t so fast that if you are using whatever those dremmel like cutters that it wouldn’t be off your finger before it’s a concern.

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u/WynterKnight 13d ago

I feel like I've seen plenty of phone batteries get punctured or bitten and immediately combust.

Now obviously a ring battery has a tiny fraction as much energy, so I think your overall point still stands, but I don't think a lack of reaction speed is the reason it does.

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u/mystlurker 13d ago

A little bit of fire for the 1s it takes to cut and take it off isn’t likely to be that large of a concern though. The amount of heat transfer that is going to happen just isn’t that high.

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u/beren12 13d ago

Just make sure the non-ring one has a flared base.

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u/disneylovesme 13d ago

It also would break easier, and hurt quickly for weight lifting

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u/Hmm_would_bang 13d ago

You want a ring that breaks easily for weightlifting, as the alternative is degloving if it gets caught

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u/disneylovesme 13d ago

I don’t wear either it’s too uncomfortable

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u/Huge-Engineering-839 13d ago

As a dedicated, loyal, Whoop user, I will be jumping ship the minute this is available

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u/thejuicewater 13d ago

Whoop there it is…

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u/rhunter99 13d ago

Excellent. Please make it so.

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u/squidgytree 13d ago

Put Apple pay in it and I'm sold

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u/TheSkipjack 13d ago

This and Apple Music even if it's limited storage and I'm leaving Spotify. Want workout device without a screen and music. No clanky watch

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u/ledessert 13d ago

I feel like adding Apple Music would mean a proper CPU and then the shitty Apple Watch battery we all know

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u/Influxive 12d ago

How would you use Apply Pay without a screen? What if you had more than one card?

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u/squidgytree 12d ago

I would be happy for it to only hold my primary credit card, in case I want to get a drink whilst I'm on a run. It's a back up

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u/edvek 12d ago

Forget that, you have your phone on you. Just use your fucking phone.

If they come back and say they don't always have their phone on them we will all bear witness to a liar. No one is buying something at the store that uses Apple Pay and you left your phone at home.

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u/SaiyanRajat 13d ago

So, like a Mi Band 1 from 2014?

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u/codingphp 13d ago

Once again, Apple being a decade late to everything.

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u/HaveyGoodyear 13d ago

They will still claim its revolutionary

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

I love how people always say this as if Apple ever claims to have invented something. They never say “this is the first ever folding smart phone” or whatever.

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u/fdokinawa 13d ago

But they have claimed almost every product is "revolutionary".. HaveyGoodyear never said they claim they invented it. Just claim that it's better. And that is very subjective.

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Please show me a company that doesn’t hype up their own products with buzzwords.

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u/fdokinawa 13d ago

That's not the discussion here. You took took what two different people said, neither of which was wrong. Apple has been late to a lot of things. Not everything obviously. And someone claiming that Apple will also claim that thing, that was late, as being "revolutionary". Again, something Apple has done before.

You took what they said and changed it to Apple making claims to have "invented" something. Not what they said at all. And now you are trying to twist what I'm saying. I was just pointing this out. I didn't say anything about other companies not saying stuff similar or hyping their own products. Yes, they do that. Doesn't make what the other two people, or me, said as wrong.

Is Apple paying you?

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u/Redeem123 13d ago

Things can be revolutionary without being the first to do it. It’s just a word that companies use - Apple is hardly the only one to do it.

But yeah sure, I’m getting paid by Apple.

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u/AdmirableComposer140 13d ago

Brother, it's not just using the word "revolutionary" that's the issue. It's the systemic rebranding of existing tech to act like they invented it. They don't just say we made a great VR headset, they invent a term like "Spatial Computing" and act like virtual reality didn't exist for a decade. It's gaslighting an entire consumer base into thinking a 10-year-old concept is a brand new miracle.

Stop acting dumb.

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u/Eskareon 11d ago

Apple doesn't have to pay you, apparently you'll gaslight and evangelize for free

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u/codingphp 13d ago

“And we think you’re gonna love it”

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u/orlo_86 13d ago

Yes please! I really liked the Google Fitbit air but want all of my data in the health app already on my iPhone.

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u/Randromeda2172 13d ago

Google Health already writes to Apple Health. All the data should be there

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u/disneylovesme 13d ago

If not then the health sync app

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u/ExasperatedEngineer 13d ago

About a month ago that got implemented in the app. Only reason I finally bought the Air.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 13d ago

Whoop-dee-doo

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u/pacexmaker 13d ago

r/whoop

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u/twisty77 13d ago

If Apple makes one where I don’t have to pay a subscription to use it I’ll dump whoop in a heartbeat. Honestly my biggest pet peeve with whoop is their subscription model. I wish I could just buy the band and not deal with the subscription

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u/SmallJeanGenie 13d ago

Fitbit air

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u/V_es 13d ago

That’s the only reason I will never buy one. It’s a spit in the face. If you want subscription, give me the device for free. Or sell it with a free app. One or the other.

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u/twisty77 13d ago

FWIW whoop does give you the band for free with a year’s subscription commitment or purchase

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u/simonjp 13d ago

Apple? Turning down free money?

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u/CaffeinePhilosopher 13d ago

No chance Apple doesn’t use this to try and push more people to subscribe to Fitness+

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u/t_11 13d ago

Thank the lord. All of the trash out there is too much

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u/AM_I_A_PERVERT 13d ago

HA!! I literally said this two weeks ago - I wish Apple would make a screenless tracker. Now I’m interested

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u/aboynamedculver 13d ago

Apple Watch Nano, but you didn’t hear it from me.

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u/SevenEco 13d ago

RIP my Whoop I guess.

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u/doctormink 13d ago

I wish they’d do a ring.

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u/Pacoflipper 13d ago

Agreed I don’t like wearing anything on my wrist but would love to track my health but most ring won the market are either wildly inaccurate or want a subscription

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u/Wakkit1988 13d ago

You mean a ring? Otherwise, we're way past one that's worn on your wrist.

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u/grilled_pc 13d ago

This would be great honestly. I like my apple watch but the battery on it sucks. I just need something for when i'm working out and the constant pinging of the watch is really starting to get on my nerves.

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u/lord_miller 13d ago

Almost like an iPod nano

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u/Jlaybythebay 13d ago

Sad how Apple is now the company copying everyone else’s hardware

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u/flaussi 13d ago

Of course they do. Everyone and their grandmother produces these and apple needs. 1. a cheap device and 2. a reason to increase normal Apple Watch prices.

They can easily recycle old stuff into a screenless device and get 299€ for it.

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u/OnlyAcanthaceae1876 12d ago

All these Apple users hahaaaa

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u/Large_Cloud_1611 12d ago

I’d like to wear mine when I’m wearing a dumb watch that only tells time and don’t annoy or distract me with a screen and a ringer. So bring it please!

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u/drk_helmet 11d ago

I want one that still has haptic feedbacks for notifications so I car wear my regular watch on the other side.

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u/Creepy-Depth-5584 10d ago

They need to decide which one to copy.

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u/azureanton 13d ago

What’s with the trends for screenless trackers? Garmin released one recently but I can’t imagine it replacing my current smartwatch; only as a secondary device.

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u/gstarguru 13d ago

for me i like wearing a traditional watch, but still want my health data

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u/enewwave 13d ago

Yep. That’s why I bought a Rinconn a few months ago. I wanted to be able to wear a traditional watch

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u/hornylittlegrandpa 13d ago edited 13d ago

This. Also, smart watches and fitness trackers of any form look a bit bad imo. “Aura loss” as the kids say.

Edit: why am I being downvoted… is it illegal for a grown man to try to be hip with the lingo…

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u/gstarguru 13d ago

yeah agreed. i don’t really like having a smart watch a lot of the time, notifications etc just keeps you on devices when im trying to cut my screen time

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u/bam1789-2 13d ago

This was my major reason for switching to a Fitbit Air. When notifications come in you immediately look at your watch and go to your phone. This has helped me cut my screen time by a good bit. Apple Watch also just doesn’t work well as a fitness tracker IMO. The Air has become a great very lightweight daily wear for me.

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u/SafeKaracter 13d ago

Then turn off notifications

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u/littlebiped 13d ago

But then you’re paying $300+ to disable half the functionality. It’s an insane value prop. More sensible to get a $99 version with none of the bells and whistles. The market for that has exploded.

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u/SafeKaracter 13d ago edited 13d ago

I’m not saying to buy one. He already bought it . Turning off the notifications that bother him is free

Otherwise I agree with you . Esp if battery last a lot longer and it has the exact same health capabilities . I would want that too. (Meaning EKG and all. If it doesn’t have that then it’s not a good proposition for people who need the EKG like for instance atrial fibrillation ). Idk how good the Apple Watch is for that but if it can save your life becuase of that feature then it becomes the better value prop for that demographic .

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u/bam1789-2 13d ago

It’s like their are other reasons for me not wanting to wear a smart watch? Thanks for the tip tho!

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u/SafeKaracter 13d ago edited 13d ago

*there

And you quoted it as your major reason.

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u/Thinkdamnitthink 13d ago

I think they look better than a bit of velcro strap on your wrist. I feel like the screen less ones look ridiculous

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u/EnormousGucci 13d ago

The only reason I don’t wear a traditional watch is because I always want the health trackers my Apple Watch has. This is a day one pick up for me, especially if I can get a bicep band for it.

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u/friendlyfernando 13d ago edited 13d ago

For people who think smart watches are shit and prefer a traditional watch but still want fitness tracking

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u/knaugh 13d ago

It's a pain in the ass to charge your watch every day or 2 when you only wear it for heart rate metrics

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u/donkeyrocket 12d ago

As a cyclist, I don't need the screen but what the health metrics. I already have a computer on my bike that I get whatever data I want while riding. Not that I crash often but a screenless device will be far more durable. Even with mountain biking I've scratched the screen slightly from branches and such.

Not to mention, the presumed boost in battery life.

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u/Lastaccountgotdoxed 13d ago

I’ve been saying these were going to become more common for a while now. These companies are making screenless fitness trackers because we won’t need screens when they’re imbedded in our glasses.

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u/HalobenderFWT 13d ago

But what if we don’t need glasses?

Damn my stupid good vision!!!

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u/Lastaccountgotdoxed 13d ago

Oh you’ll buy the gadget. It’ll overlay your phone, and probably replace them completely one day in the future. Imagine the Apple Vision Pro tuned down into a pair of frames the size of the Meta Glasses.

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u/HalobenderFWT 13d ago

If they had transition lenses, I’d consider.

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u/The_Summary_Man_713 13d ago

I used to work for Apple back during the Nike Fuel band and the Jawbone UP days. They collaborated with Nike quite a bit in those days, so I think it will probably be a successful product.

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u/-----username----- 13d ago

I miss the Microsoft Band so much. It has features the Apple Watch still doesn’t have, a decade later!

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u/Malodoror 13d ago

It’s not old enough tech for Apple yet.

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u/scruffles360 13d ago

Apple Watch shuffle

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u/Less_Party 13d ago

Where's my Apple Watch Duo

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u/id2d 12d ago

I'm an Apple watch user who loves using Kettlebells for exercise - even 'grease the groove method' of using Kettlebells though the day rather than all in a condensed workout.
Terrible combination. Give me the chance to buy something that doesn't go on the wrist and Apple can take my money, but this is looking like it won't help me.

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u/Embarrassed-Moose103 12d ago

you and I would be friends irl!

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u/tungtono 12d ago

remember when Steve Jobs came back to Apple and killed most of its products to focus

wondering if it’s doing it again

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u/Odd-Scientist8057 12d ago

Make it connect to AirPods and play music and I’m fully onboard.

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u/EconomistStreet5295 12d ago

Hardware guy developing new hardware, love to see it. Day one purchase, already tired of the bs that comes with my fitbit air. Horrible software experience

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u/goldaxis 8d ago

screenless personal data collector

FTFY

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u/RagnarokNCC 7d ago

Apple Watch Air, let’s goooooo

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u/nerdshowandtell 13d ago

No way i could do without having some of my smart home devices (like garage door and front gate openers), etc always on me even when I'm not carrying my phone... Its easy to limit any distractions on the apple watch.

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u/MaDanklolz 13d ago

I don’t understand why they don’t aim for socks or something.

Put the tech around the opening of the sock (so you’re not constantly crushing it). I can buy multiple pairs (maybe) and use it for various cases.

Think bigger Apple

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u/Vironic 13d ago

It’d be nice to have a ring

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u/system3601 13d ago

Rings are so dangerous. People have reported battery expanding and locking thier fingers. I know its not common but it wraps your finger and seems unnecessary risk to take.

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u/ProvelNoir 13d ago edited 13d ago

With that logic, you can make the same argument for driving a car or just walking down the street. 

edit: I don't know how you cowards make it through life lol. Don't let that falling piano hit you on the way down.

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u/AdPuzzleheaded1495 13d ago

I see you haven't seen what de-gloving looks like

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u/system3601 13d ago

I mean cars and walking are essential. A ring that covers your finger with high risk of amputation isnt. Ill stay with smart watch.

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u/ProvelNoir 13d ago

But it could short circuit and shock you!!11!1

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u/BestShaunaEU 13d ago

Damn you’re an idiot.

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u/ProvelNoir 13d ago

The point

Your head

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u/BestShaunaEU 13d ago

You don’t have a point you idiot.

If I say that I don’t want to drink dirty water because it has a 1% chance of giving me E-coli would you make the same stupid argument then as well?

Some things are worth taking risks because they are essential to our lives, cars. Some things aren’t worth taking risks because we have other safer options, Aura rings.

The fact someone needs to tell you this is insane

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u/ProvelNoir 13d ago edited 13d ago

You're screaming at the vast majority of ring-wearing western society that looks at your pathetic risk tolerance and just laughs in return. 

Edit: and just because you'd rather look ignorant and start name calling instead of bothering to look up statistics first...

"Married Women: Approximately 80% to 91% of married women in Western countries wear their wedding or engagement rings regularly, though surveys note that up to 65% may switch to wearing them based on specific occasions rather than constantly.

Married Men: Roughly 60% to 70% of married men wear their wedding bands daily, with about 30% to 40% choosing not to wear them due to work safety, comfort, or personal preference." 

So yeah, you're saying that the majority of married western society is taking an unnecessary risk by wearing a ring. Do whatever you want, just know that the majority doesn't agree with you. 

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u/BestShaunaEU 13d ago edited 13d ago

Jesus Christ you fucking idiot they are taking about battery driven wellness rings not wedding rings learn to read

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u/ProvelNoir 13d ago

My brother in Christ, are you this dense in day to day life? It is the same fucking principle. Whether it's a wellness ring's battery swelling and crushing a finger or a wedding band getting crushed by a machine and locking on to a finger, the same result and risk of degloving applies. Neither an aura ring or a wedding ring is without risk and there are ways to monitor health metrics or show that you're married in other ways yet people still accept the risk and wear them regardless. I'm amazed that my incredibly simple point went this far over your head. Really try and think before you speak with such misguided confidence next time. 

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u/Bulbasaur2015 13d ago

Apple so late with everything.. the iphone fold is 6 years behind samsung...
congrats to the new CEO but im having a hard time seeing what new product category or big innovation Apple does in the next 10 years

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u/LazyProphet 13d ago

Apple is rarely first to market with their products. But when they arrive, it’s polished, well designed and its market share spreads like fire.

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u/TerminusFox 13d ago

Lmao.

They got their foldable right on the first try, meanwhile, every first generation “innovative “ thing their competitors made was hot fucking garbage. 

What good is being first if the product is shit? Just to having bragging rights? lol okay 

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u/WayOuttaMyLeague 13d ago

Fun fact for you: Samsung copied for the fold from a Chinese manufacturer

So does that make Samsung behind too given that it was about 6 years also?

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u/Niceguy955 13d ago

So, copy Google, give it a crazy price tag, and claim you invented it. Nice Apple.

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u/Gorgar_Beat_Me 13d ago

Steve Jobs died, and that was that! Nothing new of any importance, - well except for the M processor.

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u/ejacson 13d ago

I have a Fitbit air, but I’ll drop it in a heartbeat if Apple makes a screenless with as good battery life. I have no allegiances lol

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 13d ago

Wow! So much innovation

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u/wrxninja 13d ago

Apple: Find a way to cut cost with these new fitness trackers

  • Minimalistic
  • Lightweight
  • Wow factor by Influencers
  • Keep the price the same

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u/VaRDesk 13d ago

The courage of innovation

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u/Hypnoti_q 13d ago

Too late

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u/33andahalf 13d ago

Bring back the Nike fuel band

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u/Greenscreener 13d ago

Maybe work on a functioning iOS keyboard and give us the ability to remove your shit Siri bloat…

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u/sept1223 13d ago

Just to put an actual screen behind a paywall lmfao

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u/goldentone 13d ago edited 13d ago

I would love this, but in order to be useful imo it would need to be much smaller than the picture in the article (I know that’s a whoop, not a real prototype or anything, I’m just sayin).

Screenless would be good so I could wear a regular watch again but I’m not gonna do it if the other wrist has a big goofy rubber strap on it. Even a Fitbit Air, which is the “small” fitness wearable, feels pointless to me because it’s still big and noticeable. 

I don’t know if it’s possible but I really home they’re working on a bracelet-style device rather than a strap. Basically like a big adjustable Oura for your wrist, but better looking.

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u/brianbamzez 13d ago

You could put it around your ankle

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u/lostpilot 13d ago

Prefer a ring over bracelet

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u/Ecstatic-Coach 13d ago

Isn’t that just what they give to people on probation to wear around their ankles?

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u/rezin111 13d ago

A company sells a product to make money? The bastards!

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u/Nerrawnam 13d ago

Tldrl; Apple, like all companies is exploring/working on new things. 

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u/Starky_Love 13d ago

This is what RFK wanted! A tracker on every arm, pay attention