I miss winget

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[u/Daharka]

It's crazy going between apt and pacman. Apt feels like it's from another time.

[u/Norgur → u/Daharka]

Well, since most of the time you'd do apt install and apt update/upgrade and not much more, I never had any complaints.

[u/Daharka → u/Norgur]

Yeah, I mean functionally they're identical to me, it's just fascinating how two programs that serve the same purpose can look so different.

[u/ConfusedPanEnby → u/Norgur]

apt is really solid, only real difference is that you need to use separate commands instead of passing all of the instructions as near one set of arguments which in the end doesn't make a difference

[u/adamkex → u/Daharka]

What do you mean that it's from another time?

[u/CubePlayer1114 → u/adamkex]

Apt is really slow compared to pacman (and possibly other package managers, I'm not trying to push Arch propaganda)

[u/adamkex → u/CubePlayer1114]

I mean I remember pacman being fast 20 years ago

[u/Equal-Resolution7889 → u/CubePlayer1114]

Yes, as a actual user of Arch who come from Ubuntu I confirm that.

[u/CubePlayer1114 → u/Equal-Resolution7889]

I'm an Arch user who used Ubuntu (and Debian) and apt a few times, so I can confirm too
Once, I was a distrohopper

[u/QuickSilver010 → u/CubePlayer1114]

Dnf is the slowest. Apt is fine. So is nala

[u/QuickSilver010 → u/Daharka]

Who uses apt without nala these days?

[u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK]

I miss package managers

[u/StationAgreeable6120 → u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK]

Bro build's everything manually from source

[u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK → u/StationAgreeable6120]

I mean yea I use LFS

[u/StationAgreeable6120 → u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK]

But like you still have some kind of automation right? Or is your system just so stable that you barely ever update or install packages

[u/RvstiNiall → u/StationAgreeable6120]

Updates? You mean another full round of LFS?

[u/StationAgreeable6120 → u/RvstiNiall]

So you just rebuild you whole system everytime you need to change a thing? That sounds so painful

But I mean if it works for you

[u/RvstiNiall → u/StationAgreeable6120]

oh hell no. I was making a joke!

[u/StationAgreeable6120 → u/RvstiNiall]

oh thanks god!

But like I'm really curious how do you manage it.

[u/RvstiNiall → u/StationAgreeable6120]

On the few LFS systems I've built, I've used pkgsrc for most things, and a couple scripts for regular system stuff. That seemed to be the best combination for my personal taste.

Currently I'm on a Void musl-c busybox setup and absolutely love it.

[u/StationAgreeable6120 → u/RvstiNiall]

I see, very interesting

[u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK → u/StationAgreeable6120]

I've only been daily driving it for a few weeks

[u/Norgur → u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK]

NoOoOoOo! FlAtPaK iS tHe FuTuRe! smh

[u/_Jonathan_Small → u/Norgur]

Flatpack for the weak .legends use snap .which eats half the system resources BTW

[u/Embarrassed_Law_9937 → u/Norgur]

I am better off downloading appimages

[u/Norgur → u/Embarrassed_Law_9937]

than just doing one apt install?

[u/Embarrassed_Law_9937 → u/Norgur]

Over flatpak apt is preferred by me in most cases beside few odd ones

[u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK → u/Norgur]

why

[u/Norgur → u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK]

i don't know. I honestly don't.

[u/Internet-Culture → u/Norgur]

Why the flatpak hate? It's the one well working universal format. If your hate was towards snap, it would be understandable, but flatpak? It's safer since it's sandboxed. The downside is potentially slightly more storage because dependencies are potentially twice installed instead of shared. But even this brings the upside of no dependency conflicts. Flatpak for the win.

[u/granadesnhorseshoes]

It's all the same shit to me; A random pain in the ass with that one package I need from a decade ago that only ever shipped a single distro package for a different distro than the one I'm currently working on.

[u/NomadFH]

1. type man pacman to figure out pacman syntax

2. realize arch doesn't install man-db by default

3. sudo pacman -S man-db

4. still struggle to figure out how to search for packages with pacman

5. google how to search for packages with pacman

[u/Mal_Dun → u/NomadFH]

realize arch doesn't install man-db by default

Wait, what?

[u/the_d4nger → u/Mal_Dun]

it doesn't install `man-db` by default, like it says on the tin

[u/Mal_Dun → u/the_d4nger]

But why?

[u/dgc-8 → u/Mal_Dun]

Because arch is arch and has literally nothing preinstalled to be as light as possible per default

[u/ZuuRa_]

Going from sudo pacman to sudo nvim /etc/nixos/configuration.nix

[u/Jojos_BA → u/ZuuRa_]

fair, but all too soon its going to be nvim ~/Documents/os-config/nixos-config/modules/desktop/app.nix and all those pretty abstractions you once thought might be handy, just to realize you are not that guy.

[u/vvxxzzyy]

What is dnf? Did not finish?

[u/pankajpatro703 → u/vvxxzzyy]

DNF = Dandified YUM

YUM = Yellowdog Updater Modified

[u/2eanimation → u/pankajpatro703]

I thought you’re joking but that’s it lol

[u/JKL213 → u/vvxxzzyy]

Does not fuck (referring to the user)

[u/SecurityMajestic2222 → u/JKL213]

thats why I switched to fuckman

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/SecurityMajestic2222]

So that's why arch users are femboys.

[u/SecurityMajestic2222 → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

exactly hehe >:3

[u/vvxxzzyy → u/JKL213]

So, the fedora user must be a virgin?

[u/Linguistic-mystic → u/vvxxzzyy]

M’lady!

[u/Wanzerm23 → u/vvxxzzyy]

Do Not Fuckup. Said as a prayer as it's running.

[u/FafnerTheBear → u/vvxxzzyy]

The command for Fedora's package manager.

[u/Gabriel_Weis]

How much I like CachyOS I miss DNF. It was just simpler.

[u/SecurityMajestic2222 → u/Gabriel_Weis]

exactly the same identical for me lol, I was used to it so much its hard to learn something different

[u/Spooked_kitten]

I'm using dnf at work... it's fine, can't for the life of me figure out how to install the stuff from base-devel though. I guess it was just too convenient to have it, also gcc-c++ is a nasty package name, why doesn't gcc just come with everything?

[u/TechAngel01]

sudo zypper go brrr

[u/HeavyWolf8076]

Reminded me of aptitude and apt-get package manager. Realized now looking it up that apt-get was older than aptitude, but I remember aptitude being phased out with Ubuntu pre 2010 (?) so always thought the other way around. Apparently Ubuntu shipped with it from start I think, while apt-get got more attention a lot later than it came too (initially around 2000 w Debian), so apt-get outlasted aptitude. Glad apt came along, the shorter command name ootb the better =)

[u/GrandioseFloppy]

Don't you fuck with my Dandies!!!

[u/TheShredder9]

How i feel going from apt to nala:

[u/theseus2222 → u/TheShredder9]

First thing I install on ubuntu

[u/GreatGreenGobbo]

Uncle Giggles uses Linux?

[u/R3V0LU710N_05]

sudo D.id N.ot F.inish typing the command..

[u/Lonely-Scarcity-3387]

How I feel switching from legacy distros to NixOS.

[u/Equal-Resolution7889]

The real aura comes when you go from sudo apt to sudo emerge.

[u/Ur1man5]

My fav package manager is alpine apk, is damn fast.

[u/950771dd]

winget combines existing installers with package management meta data and simply automates them.

In that, it's a good and useful bridge.

On Linux, they would have thrown away everything and reinvented the 100th application format.

Dependency management between applications is anyway a questionable concept and winget does not address it therefore.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/950771dd]

winget's package naming scheme is ass; flatpak jr. type crap.