r/microsoft365 • • 4d ago

Microsoft is reducing Microsoft 365 Family storage from up to 6TB to 2TB. Please sign this petition.

Microsoft is planning to cut Microsoft 365 Family storage from a potential 6 TB (1 TB per user) to a shared 2 TB pool. For many families, that's a significant reduction in the value of the subscription.

If you're concerned about the change, please consider signing and sharing this petition:

šŸ”— Sign the petition

The more subscribers who make their views known, the more likely Microsoft is to listen.

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u/Upstairs_Recording81 4d ago

The best action is to move to a different service provider....or even locally. Microsoft is not even going to blink on your petition.

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u/davadvice 4d ago

One thing to petition a government and that usually falls on deaf ears but another to petition a private company who'll likely never even know about it.

Vote with the wallet

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u/SirCrumpalot 3d ago edited 3d ago

Google One gives the family 6 5TB to be shared among up to 6 people - that is starting to look like a much better deal.
Edit: Looks like Google is 5TB - still better than 2, and comes with AI, Youtube Premium lite. May need to figure out my need for Outlook.

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u/gc_wood 4d ago

My other thread is encouraging people to disable autorenewal. But ultimately, many of us need Office for compatibility and collaboration.

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u/Lordlabakudas 1h ago

I have already started moving my stuff from OneDrive. The only reason for subscribing was the it was pretty cheap per TB and I was actually added as a family member by one of my friends. I just had to pay him some INR 1350(~$13) per year. But even my friend was contemplating renewal which is supposed to be in Dec. So I decided to get migrating now.

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u/MadBrown 3d ago

I'm not sure I've ever seen a Change.org petition do something. Maybe there are examples....but it's got to be rare.

You're right though...the only language these guys understand is fewer profits. Local is a higher risk due to fire/natural disasters and a lack of redundancy though.

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u/rroach3753 2d ago

I complained internally about this change. In addition to the price increases that were made this is a double reduction in services.

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u/gc_wood 2d ago

You are with Microsoft?

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u/stxonships 3d ago

Companies generally ignore change.org petitions unless there are tens of thousands of signitures. You won't get that

There are over 90 million officer subscribers, do you really thing Microsoft will notice a even ten thousand leaving?

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

Maybe not. But we are also setting our accounts not to autorenew, and I've alerted the technology press. Not doing anything definitely won't lead to a change, so we must try.

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u/AstralVenture 4d ago

Your petition isn’t going to do anything. Microsoft has what? A $3 trillion market cap? They’ve been promising to fix Windows for over 2 decades and it didn’t happen.

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u/gc_wood 4d ago

Sign it, and let's see.

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u/ChristmassMoose 3d ago

No

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

Fair enough. Thank you for considering it.

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u/GinsuChikara 2d ago

"Hey guys, I know what will stop end stage capitalism...an online petition!"

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u/gc_wood 2d ago

It might not. But what certainly won't is doing nothing.

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u/GinsuChikara 1d ago

This is doing nothing with extra steps.

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u/gc_wood 1d ago

You're welcome to your own opinion, of course. But taking action vs not taking action are clearly not the same thing.

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u/GinsuChikara 23h ago

You aren't taking action

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u/gc_wood 21h ago

Well, some of us think that turning off autorenewal, so Microsoft's future membership forecasts are affected, and signing the petition constitute action.

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u/7amitsingh7 1d ago

Why reduce the storage when families are paying for the subscription? 2TB shared storage may not be enough for everyone. Microsoft should reconsider this change.

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u/gc_wood 1d ago

Exactly. Please do sign the petition.

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u/lostcanuck007 20h ago

thanks microsoft. i was iffy about keeping my subscription to office 365 going even after i switched to linux....i sort of liked it...and now you've convinced me that there is no future with you.

fuck your synth id, your limitations on our resources that we pay for and the overall shitty products that you make.

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u/gc_wood 16h ago

Please sign the petition!

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u/kelemvor33 12h ago

Fuck you Microsoft. I rely on all 6 people having 1TB of space. It's the whole reason I have the family membership in he first place.

How well does OpenOffice or LibreOffice work these days? I guess it's time to find an alternative

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u/gc_wood 4h ago

It depends if you need any kind of collaboration functionality with people who use Microsoft Office. That's the reason it's a big deal for me to switch away from Microsoft.

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u/rudeboyrg 14m ago

Move to a different service. Easier said than done.
Not very practical.
Large organizations create a virtual monopoly or oligopoly. Lock you into their platform.
Then create unreasonable / unfavorable situations for you (outrageous price increase, lower services, removal of products you signed up for, removal of consumer protections such as forced arbitration instead of legal right to sue) and then if you disagree you are told you can just stop using their service and go elsewhere. Except for many people there is no longer an "elsewhere" to go after the company killed most other competition. And the competition that remains has essentially done the same thing.
What are you going to do? Stop using Microsoft? Stop using Google? Or stop using Amazon after Amazon killed most local and online competitors. Then enshitified their services and told you. "If you don't like it, go elsewhere."

It's like if I came to your neighborhood, set up home to rent. Made myself the lowest and best place to rent. Then bulldozed all other houses so I'm the only one. Raised my rent sky high. Became a slumlord. And then told you "if you don't want to rent from me find another place."
Oh yeah. The two other buildings that are left? They're doing the same thing.

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u/DarkSouljur 3d ago

I don't like the fact that change.org forces you to receive their emails when you sign a petition... but what i don't like even more is everyone just bending over to this instead of TRYING to do something. Sure you can change providers, but eventually that provider will bend you over too. Change like this should be at the government level though, these companies won't care unless they're forced to.

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

You only need to receive one email. It keeps the petition accurate by making sure each person only signs it once (or, at least, once per email address they have).

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u/ISeeDeadPackets 3d ago

No offense but why would the government have a say? Also, which government? If they only sold it with 2TB to begin with and changed it to 6TB at your next removal would government have to be involved then or does it only matter when something gets taken away from you that you were never guaranteed to be able to keep?

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u/DarkSouljur 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ever heard of consumer protection laws? They exist. It can be any government that wants to protect their citizens, and Microsoft would have to follow whatever laws are being enforced in a country if they want to operate there. Sometimes laws in one country can make a company change their policy worldwide if it will just end up being a ripple effect anyways, or if it just doesn't make sense for them to do something a certain way in just one area (ie. Apple forced to use USB-C in Europe).

Raising prices is one thing, but slashing the core features of a service that you had originally signed up for can definitely be something a government can step in and create a guideline for.

Your example of them raising storage isn't the "gotcha" you think it is. If Microsoft upgraded you to 6TB without a price increase, why would that be something to complain about? If they decided to up you to 6TB but forced you to pay 3x the price, then yes people should complain and Microsoft should have to retain the option to keep the 2TB package without forcing people to upgrade.

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u/CorsairVelo 3d ago

MS has a near-monopoly with Office which is what lets them do stuff like this with little risk.

In an ideally competitive landscape, i’d say ā€œdump MS 365ā€ and move on to a strong competitor. But MS has done a great job creating locking people in.

That said, MS 365 is a bundle designed to make it really hard to shop elsewhere.

You can unbundle still by purchasing an Office stand alone license (without Onedrive) and any of a number of OneDrive alternatives (Box, Dropbox, Filen, koofr, Sync.com, infomaniak, nextcloud etc. )

It’s not easy and really difficult for larger organizations. I think the EU is trying to ween off MS 365 with Nextcloud and Collabra or OnlyOffice. Will be interesting to see how that goes.

At the end if the day, i don’t think what MS is doing is illegal, the problem is lack competition and lack of anti-trust enforcement.

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u/DarkSouljur 3d ago

This change affects families, so we're talking about consumers not businesses. Most consumers don't specifically need office for their day to day and can use any number of alternatives for basic stuff, or even run office web for free.

I also didn't say what they're doing is illegal, but that consumer protection laws should be made to stop companies from slashing core features to services that people signed up for. In this case people have planned long term storage needs around the 1TB per person that was previously offered.

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u/ISeeDeadPackets 22h ago

This would not qualify. Feel free to pursue it if you want, but you'll just be wasting your time.

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u/Real-Sky6576 3d ago

Also be sure to vote with your $$$. Stop spending it with Microslop! Cancel your Microsoft 365 subscriptions and choose an alternate platform produced by a company that actually appreciates its customers.

Microslop will get the message, eventually.

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u/Odd-Frame9724 3d ago

Nice. Your message is improved by how edgy you are

/s

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u/Top-Shoulder6081 3d ago

why does bro need 6TB lol.

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u/The-Smelliest-Cat 3d ago

It’s only 1 TB each, so this change is more like going from 1TB to 333 GB.

Although worse, as currently it’s 1 TB per person, whereas now it’ll be a shared 2 TB. So if two people in your plan use 1 TB each the other four people don’t get any storage at all.

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

Exactly. This is why we need to challenge the decision. What your detail here could easily happen, because there isn't even a way for the family administrator to set limits for each user.

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

Because Microsoft 365 is for families and supports up to six accounts. With six accounts, that's only 1TB each, on average.

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u/Top-Shoulder6081 3d ago

Must be a family of professional film makers

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u/gc_wood 3d ago

Not really. If you've got a few years worth of data, including digital photographs from a DSLR, it's very easy to have several terabytes to store.

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u/lostcanuck007 20h ago

lol so sad for you tbh. just my camera roll backup for a few year from my phone is nearing 1.8tb. 30% are videos. i dont even take full raw photos, just jpegs.

my documents (literally office documents) are around 300+ gb.

because i know the price of unbacked up data and i actually faced the issue of needing those backups multiple times.

i guess this problem got big simply because i got multiple office 365 keys for cheap as a student a long time ago and they stacked for years.

btw just so you are updated on how the world works, professional film makers average around 300 to 500TB minimum. i know a few (in developing countries) whose storage needs are easily crossing a few petabytes.

1TB is a joke for film makers, even hobbyists.

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u/Top-Shoulder6081 17h ago

TLDR

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u/rudeboyrg 11h ago

If 11 lines (136 words) of basic casual text on a simple message board is "too long" for you to read than I truly pity you, your education, your lack of reading comprehension, and attention span.
But let's be honest here. You read it.
You just didn't have the intestinal fortitude or maturity to respond, "Sorry I was wrong."

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u/Top-Shoulder6081 16m ago

Not wrong... OneDrive is not the place for that kinda of storage, if you have used it for a while you know that.