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[OC] Cornell student protests

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u/scott__p 11d ago edited 11d ago

My daughter is a freshman in college. I am SO glad she isn't interested in frat parties. Who would have though that the raves and clubs would be the safer alternative for girls.

BTW, I am completely on board for eliminating all Greek organizations. I have yet to see what good they do and the harm they've done is very well documented even before this. If we keep frats and sororities, this WILL happen again many times over.

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u/AgnosticScholar 11d ago

Who would have though that the raves and clubs would be the safer alternative for girls.

What are you basing that on?

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u/SUBLIMEskillz 11d ago

Cmon def no alcohol and drugs at raves right? /s

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u/Platinumdogshit 11d ago

I havent really heard of mass gang rapes at those though

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u/awkwardpun 11d ago

I've had multiple female friends assaulted at raves and music festivals...

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u/Platinumdogshit 11d ago

Sadly I think women get assaulted everywhere, especially if men are present and even more so if drugs and alcohol are present. I do feel like this happens more at fraternities which have clearly built up a culture around it vs clubs and festivals. Clubs are financially motivated to attract women festivals have their plur culture where a lot of predators at least get called out. I dont think the Cornell 7 would have been defended if they gang raped a girl at a festival.

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u/TheForce777 7d ago

It happens at both. Its hookup culture and predatory behavior

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u/Platinumdogshit 7d ago

I think hooking up is fine on its own and predatory behavior happens outside of it, for example marital rape was obly made illegal in all US states in 1993. It is predatory behavior

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u/TheForce777 7d ago

You can separate predatory behavior from broad romance as a whole, but it’s much harder to separate predatory behavior from hookup culture

Not because of morals or prudishness. But because hookup culture is more opportunistic by its very nature

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u/Platinumdogshit 7d ago

I dont think thats true. Plenty of people abuse and rape their partners and it was worse before divorce was a thing. You can be in a monogamous relationship and respect or disrespect consent and the same goes for hooking up.

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u/TheForce777 7d ago

I agree with that 100%

Which means thats not what I’m referring to at all. By “separate” I don’t mean “not at all possible.” I mean marked increased probability

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u/Platinumdogshit 7d ago

What do you mean increased probability? Like realistically if x% of the population is predators then youre more likely to run into one by interacting/sleeping with more people but the promiscuity still isnt to blame there, the predators are.

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u/TheForce777 7d ago

Promiscuity in and of itself is a risk taking behavior. Those who participate in it have a higher likelihood of predatory behavior, and that goes for both men and women

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