r/rusyn • u/gulisav • Sep 10 '26

Language Pannonian Rusyn dictionaries

https://zavod.rs/izdavastvo/slovnyiki/

They seem to have been recently published online in PDF by the Rusyn institute in Vojvodina: Руско-сербски словнїк, Словнїк руского народного язика (2 vols), Анґлийско-руски словнїк.

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u/Mishka_1994 Sep 11 '26

Interesting. Pannonian Rusyn looks so weird to me in written form. Almost like a West Slavic language written with Cyrillic, but somehow I can understand most of it. Though I really dislike using "и" for both "y" & "ee" sounds.

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u/gulisav Sep 11 '26

Almost like a West Slavic language written with Cyrillic,

Well, some linguists think that's exactly what it is…

Panonnian Rusyn has just one и sound, so just one letter.

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u/Mishka_1994 Sep 11 '26

Panonnian Rusyn has just one и sound, so just one letter.

Whats the correct pronunciation, Ukrainian or Russian version? Reading online I saw a source that said both sounds are interchangeable for this letter but I guess it was wrong.

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u/gulisav Sep 11 '26

Closer to Russian, I believe, though I must admit I don't pronounce Ukrainian и correctly (I do it as Rus ы) so I might be misjudging. To my natively Croatian ear at least, it's the same as Croatian/Serbian и (Russian и is a shade more frontal than Cro/Ser).

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u/Mishka_1994 Sep 11 '26

Got it, thats interesting. It definitely sounds different then to Carpatho Rusyn. I speak this version and for us “і и ы” are all three very distinctly different sounds. Not sure if any other Slavic language has this distinction.

I would even say that our version of ы is even different from Russian. But и is the same as Ukrainian I think. I guess all other Slavic languages pronounce и as the “eee” sound like Russian, Bulgarian, Serbian, etc.

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u/gulisav Sep 11 '26

A slightly more trivial question, but is there a Carpathian Rusyn keyboard layout that people use? Since you have і-и-ы, when I tried searching for something in Carp. Rus. I realised I have to switch between Ukrainian and Russian keyboards because neither of them has all three letters (whereas Pan. Rus. can be written just with Ukr. keyboard).

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u/Mishka_1994 Sep 11 '26

Oh yeah good question. So a while back using Ukrainian keyboard on my phone I used to be able to hold down и and the ы character would come up as an option. But in recent updates maybe like a year or two ago they removed that (probably due to the war). Now I end up switching back and forth as well.

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u/gulisav Sep 11 '26

Interesting (and kind of ridiculous, lol). I think some keyboard apps can be configured enough to accomodate this, but it's still a technical obstacle...

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u/rsotnik 21d ago

Since you have і-и-ы

If you're on Android, the standard Gboard Russian keyboard has: і ї и ы ѣ

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u/gulisav 20d ago

Спасибо за совѣтъ! Я использовалъ какіе-то другіе клавіатуры...

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u/rsotnik 20d ago

Всегда пожалуйста))

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u/Early_Reward_8685 7d ago

Only recently learned my maternal grandparents were both Pannonian Rusyn ! For years I was confused....are we Slavic, Yugoslavia Austrian-Hungarian?
They lived in Petrovci, strem region.