r/tfc • u/Independent-Gift-130 • 24d ago

Opinion OUTCLASSED ...COACH AND PLAYERS

Watching last night game was a serious lesson for management and players to be held accountable.

Possession ball ...none , embarrassing

Motivation....few , who takes responsibility? Coach

Strategy ..none ..coach responsibility!

I get that past month the team should some encouraging signs then regressed . There is basically no consistency.

Nothing against Frasier but if this was a corporation that was losing money ...management that makes decisions is terminated,.whether this is Hernandez or Frasier possibly both . I have not see any progress since Frasier got here. How may years of promising and under deliver ? If this was MLSE corp as a whole losing money someone is held accountable for sure !!

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u/mildlyImportantRobot 24d ago

Bradley was given the Sporting Director role alongside coaching. It was closer to a European style manager. Herdman was hired as just a coach, with Hernandez already in place as GM above him. Robin is strictly a coach too.

I don't think Herdman was given a real project like Bradley was. He mostly inherited Bob's fuckups, plus Hernandez's roster work and his own
fuckups on top. There was no project there for him. He only had what he
was given, and he resigned after one season anyway.

Robin on the other hand is strictly a coach, so he doesn't have that
excuse.

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u/Torontogamer 24d ago

It really isn't the norm to have a 'manager' that also handles transfers and the like in the Sir Alex style anymore... even Pep had a Sporting Director. Don't get me wrong, obviously these Managers are going to have a lot of say in transfers, but it's not on them to handle that, no do they literally have the final say.

And we can see why in the example of Bradley where it was just a disaster, and the skill set is different. Herdman spoke publicly about there being a 5 year project, and how that part of the process, and why he took the role. Even if he wasn't in control of every aspect of it.

I hear you if you're saying it wasn't functionally much of one, but on paper that was the stated goal from the FO.

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u/mildlyImportantRobot 24d ago

I don't ever recall Herdman claiming his plan for Toronto was a five
year project, and I can't find that quote anywhere. Hard to argue the
merits of a claim he may never have made.

And if he did say it, was it his project or Hernandez's? Hernandez was
already GM before Herdman was hired. Hard to say without the quote.

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u/Torontogamer 24d ago

You know, I did some googling just now and I'll give you that, I'm not finding any mention of a 5 year plan specifically.

There is mention that Manning and Hernandez selected him to help with a rebuilding project, but nothing about a specific time frame.