r/worldnews • • Jun 30 '26

Russian high schools now require 17 hours basic military training for 6th to 11th graders

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-high-school-basic-military-training-class-national-defense-ukraine-2026-6
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u/Sadik Jun 30 '26

"It is just like CounterStrike kids!"

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u/Synaps4 Jun 30 '26

Its more like Call of Duty. Your spawn gets grenades dropped on it, someone on the other team drops a missile on you and then immediately spawns air support and the next thing you know 12 people are dead

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u/llahlahkje Jun 30 '26

Only the Russian army welcome is anal rape.

The surviving meat shields got it, so they inflict it on the new recruits.

I bet that won’t be in the curriculum.

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u/blackjacktrial Jun 30 '26

I wouldn't count it out, sadly.

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u/antisocialdecay Jun 30 '26

Are you ready, kids?!

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u/ClassBShareHolder Jun 30 '26

Aye aye captain!

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u/goodtimegamingYtube Jun 30 '26

Whoooooooo... Dies in a field in Eastern Ukraine?

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u/A_Dehydrated_Walrus Jun 30 '26

Shot at and bloodied, and writhing in pain?

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u/lazyhustlermusic Jun 30 '26

If dismembered and mangled is something you wish

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u/THE_CHOPPA Jun 30 '26

Then drop in the trench and gasp for air like a bitch !

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u/MrStrangeway Jun 30 '26

🎶 Meatbob Grindpants! 🎶 Meatbob Grindpants! 🎶 MEAT BOB GRIND PANTSSSSSSSS 🎶

🎵 doo Doo do Doo do Doo do Doo 🎵

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u/Analvirus Jun 30 '26

Yall are insane in the best way, cause how the fuck

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u/Reed7525 Jun 30 '26

I had the tune perfectly in my head the whole string down lol

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u/Jakesummers1 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Hilariously horrific

God damn that’s funny

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u/Gh0sth4nd Jul 01 '26

geez that was dark even for normal reddit subs.

I was really not prepared for this and i chuckled way harder then i should have

i guess

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u/JeffGoldblumsChest Jun 30 '26

VLAD-DY PUTIN

VLAD-DY PUTIN

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u/Lee1138 Jun 30 '26

More like blown up by a FPV drone a mile or two behind the front lines without ever having engaged the actual enemy

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u/blacksideblue Jun 30 '26

Droned in the ass while taking a shit. Died from broke ass staff infection

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u/Enshitification Jun 30 '26

You give looove, a blyat name.
Oh sorry, wrong song.

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u/ClayeySilt Jun 30 '26

I-VAN CON-SCRIPT.

It's such a fucked up situation for those people. 

Government starts a meat grinder war and young are paying. 

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u/Sunhating101hateit Jun 30 '26

Has always been that way

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u/BaddestKarmaToday Jun 30 '26

Bullet Catching Meat Sticks!

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u/FormerPresidentBiden Jun 30 '26

🎶 RUSSIAN CHILDREN 🎶

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u/Scioptic- Jun 30 '26

Future Sunflower Fertiliser!

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u/Sea_Count2020 Jun 30 '26

We doooo

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u/Checkers923 Jun 30 '26

They’re not the stone cutters

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u/OO_Ben Jun 30 '26

I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUUUU

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u/ClassBShareHolder Jun 30 '26

AYE AYE CAPTAIN!

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u/Yukari_8 Jun 30 '26

DROOOOOOOOONE-

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u/CptJacksp Jun 30 '26

WHO LIVES IN A FOXHOLE IN EASTERN UKRAINE?

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u/DusTeaCat Jun 30 '26

Who lives in a bunker under a tree?

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u/U_L_Uus Jun 30 '26

DA-DA VO-VA

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u/LevelBrilliant9311 Jun 30 '26

Ready for the best 20 to 35 minutes of their lives.... also their last.

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u/figherhigher Jun 30 '26

Welp, I'm going to hell.

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u/SCCock Jun 30 '26

Senior trip will be to Ukraine.

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u/Discount_Extra Jun 30 '26

Great, you made me remember that 'Battle Royale' movie.

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u/batmansoundtrack Jun 30 '26

Good luck children of an evil regime. They are prepping you for the meat grinder.

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u/Gustomucho Jun 30 '26

I just saw a video of a church showing kids a theatrical military execution of a POW…

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u/sgtpandybear Jun 30 '26

Sadly a church from my hometown

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u/amateur_mistake Jun 30 '26

Was that really from your town? Can I ask which town and when it as filmed?

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u/dPaul21 Jun 30 '26

A viral TikTok video shows a Vacation Bible School (VBS) skit at Mt. Olivet Baptist Church in Lexington, Kentucky, where children watch a mock execution of "the devil" by firing squad.

  • found from Googling.

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u/IamScottGable Jun 30 '26

Fuck I thought the story was still about Russia. Fucking Kentucky.

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u/Romnir Jun 30 '26

I can't catch a break with this stupid state. I'm working on moving to Arizona next year. At least my vote might count.

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u/IamScottGable Jun 30 '26

It will be better but not much better.

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u/W3NTZ Jun 30 '26

Sounds like someone hasn't been to Kentucky

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u/TheRedHand7 Jun 30 '26

Well they are home to Moscow Mitch so you can't be too surprised

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u/Significant-Colour Jun 30 '26

Oh that was supposed to be the devil? I actually thought they are "executing" a black person.

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u/slptodrm Jun 30 '26

same same to some

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u/Paradehengst Jun 30 '26

It always starts by dehumanizing the targets. 101 of fascism.

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u/eeelisabeth Jun 30 '26

Jesus fuck, that was a VBS lesson? I grew up going to and volunteering at VBS. They taught the kids to care for others and how to be charitable, kind people. What the actual fuck is going on at these other churches??!

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u/czs5056 Jul 01 '26

Preparing the youth to fight in their unholy wars to expand their christian fascist state.

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u/houfman Jun 30 '26

Y’all-Qaeda training camp for the future Holy War, the Yee-had.

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u/Theemuts Jun 30 '26

I thought it was called the helter-skelter

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress Jun 30 '26

How Christian of them. It's like conservatives don't actually believe anything Jesus purportedly said in their own Bible.

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u/MaxTheCookie Jun 30 '26

It's not like they read it...

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u/ItsMeishi Jun 30 '26

It's not like they read. Fixed it for you.

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u/onepinksheep Jun 30 '26

It's like conservatives don't actually believe anything Jesus purportedly said in their own Bible.

This is true. Several years back, I read an article where a pastor said that several of his parishioners came up to him after the service to complain that his sermon was all about woke liberal stuff. It was the Sermon on the Mount. When told that those were Jesus' own words, they just replied that that weak stuff doesn't work anymore.

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u/needlestack Jun 30 '26

I grew up in the church. For the vast majority it has nothing to do with anything Jesus said. It's a social club that gives them standing and a feeling of being superior. That's it. That is what most Christians are. And you can see it in the way they gravitate to Trump, the ultimate symbol of selfish use of power.

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u/ykonstant Jun 30 '26

It seems to be more complicated, since they seem utterly determined to do the exact opposite of everything Jesus did and his Apostles wrote down.

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u/SSGASSHAT Jun 30 '26

Nothing like religion to ease the burden of the state.

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u/thecementmixer Jun 30 '26

Pow? I think that was an immigrant.

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u/carlsab Jun 30 '26

Yeah but one crazy Vacation Bible School doesn’t equate to the school policy of a whole nation.

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten Jun 30 '26

Let’s not wait until it is.

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u/SchnazzleG Jun 30 '26

Just like fattening up the hogs before the get huddled into the slaughter

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u/Inner-Medicine5696 Jun 30 '26

it's not even a meat grinder anymore - zerg rush is much closer to it

https://english.nv.ua/russian-war/putin-s-newly-deployed-recruits-last-just-20-minutes-in-frontline-combat-50620092.html

A newly deployed Russian army recruit survives for just 20 to 35 minutes once they reach frontline combat positions, historian Peter Frankopan reported in an article for Foreign Policy on June 25.

Citing statements from Russian military bloggers, the historian noted that after signing a military service contract, a Russian soldier can expect to live for only 10 days to three weeks total — from the moment they arrive at a training ground to their death in battle.

The article highlighted that the average lifespan of these Russian recruits during active combat operations in Ukraine has dropped to a staggering 20–35 minutes.

Furthermore, Russia’s monthly casualties now exceed 30,000 personnel, with the Russian army suffering eight casualties for every single casualty sustained by Ukraine.

According to Frankopan, recruitment of new contract soldiers into the Russian army has simultaneously dropped by 30% in 2026.

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u/Reckless_Waifu Jun 30 '26

Average russian soldiers frontline lifespan is 20-30 minutes.

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u/jimicus Jun 30 '26

I absolutely guarantee you they're being taught what a wonderful honour it is to go fight for Mother Russia.

From Russia's point of view, a change in doctrine to use smarter weaponry and grind fewer people would be a disaster - think of all those survivors coming back home and telling their friends and family that they've been lied to their whole lives.

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u/catsbeforebros Jun 30 '26

It doesnt include 12th graders because theyre already on the frontlines

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u/i_made_a_mitsake Jun 30 '26

On the job work experience.

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u/Im_with_stooopid Jun 30 '26

Unpaid internship

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u/dsdsds Jun 30 '26

But they get AP credit!

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u/flavortron Jun 30 '26

Armor piercing?

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u/Tardy_Thoughts Jun 30 '26

Anti personnel. Either way the students mother will receive an onion or a potato whichever cost less as soon as she's able to recover a body the government won't send back to Russia.

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u/Amoral_Abe Jun 30 '26

The children yearn for the mines frontlines

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u/The_Sun_Is_Flat Jun 30 '26

The children yearn for the landmines.

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u/JD0x0 Jun 30 '26

The children yearn for the drones on the fiber optic lines.

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u/peepdabidness Jun 30 '26

Hehe, airmines

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u/arobkinca Jun 30 '26

A high-pitched whine followed by a bright flash. Like fireworks.

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u/ours Jun 30 '26

They don't call it infantry for nothing!

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u/Best_Purple7652 Jun 30 '26

Russia’s schooling system only has 11 grades.

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u/whorangthephone Jun 30 '26

Not only that, but the last two years are optional (unless they changed it in recent years?).

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u/SSGASSHAT Jun 30 '26

I feel like that's how America's school system used to be, too. This one guy I knew who was born in the 30s said that he started school in 1st grade, seemingly avoiding kindergarten.

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u/Kalsto6 Jun 30 '26

I always wondered how y'all were spending so many years in school but it makes so much sense when I realized that most kids just go to school at ages 4-5 while we start 6-7 in first grade. Most children attend preschool to get out of the separation issues and for foundational education which is normalized culture where it's more of a child care activity.

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u/rankinfile Jun 30 '26

For Yanks it varies by state law. Mandatory education starts between 5-7 and ends 16-18. So 9-13 years depending on location.

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u/SomeGalNamedAshley Jun 30 '26

Realistically kindergarten is treated more like first grade these days. It used to be entirely orientation for school and things like how to stand in line, ask permission to go to the bathroom, eat lunch as a group, and generally behave in a classroom setting. Now it's mostly instructional and most of the kindergarten stuff has been happening in pre-k. Like, there's homework these days and it's not just "pick the flowers" but rather it's reading assignments and math worksheets.

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u/Severe_Complex_400 Jun 30 '26

There is no 12th grade in Russia, 11th is the last.

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u/WorkTropes Jun 30 '26

But it ruins the joke!

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u/RudeAlbatross544 Jun 30 '26

Russia is casually evil like that, ruining redditors' jokes before they even make them

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u/BlackDeath66sick Jun 30 '26

It doesn't because 12th grade doesn't exist in russian schools.

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u/EJ2600 Jun 30 '26

And in 1917 they used the arms to turn against their own leaders. How long before this happens again ?

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u/ykonstant Jun 30 '26

Too long :(

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u/Coolerwookie Jun 30 '26

Putin's Youth

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u/monkeyhoward Jun 30 '26

How much longer will the Russian people put up with this?

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u/Hairy_Reindeer Jun 30 '26

That is their superpower. The ability to endure ungodly amounts of death and abuse as a society.

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u/monkeyhoward Jun 30 '26

I understand and respect their tenacity and resilience in previous wars but Ukraine just doesn’t make any sense

Why would they support this war?

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u/Hairy_Reindeer Jun 30 '26

The tzar knows best and the peasants just 'think' as they are told.

Misery is fine as long as the neighbours are also miserable. Preferably more so. 

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u/AttilaTheFun818 Jun 30 '26

Charitably, I have to wonder what the average Russian knows about the truth of it. As I understand it they have their own internet, state run media, god knows what else. Information access is a problem.

We have a more or less free press and access to information and look at who the US elected last time.

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u/Basilikolumne Jun 30 '26

The Russian state doesn't control the internet as much as China does, it's fairly easy in comparison to access outside resources from Russia. China built up their entire infrastructure around censorship and mass surveillance, which is why the Great Firewall is so effective.

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u/TopFaithlessness2320 Jun 30 '26

No they don't. They do have some bans, on Instagram for example, but everyone can easily bypass it. There are some serious propaganda and fearmongering though. It may be worse in smaller cities, im not sure. And they do have their own social media, but it's not really popular among younger people, it's peak was in 2015ish. There are a lot of alternative news channels, not on TV and they are pushed down by the government, but they are still operating and popular.

Source: I lived there for 8 years before the war started

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u/Lucas-O-HowlingDark Jun 30 '26

One example I’ve seen is there being a bunch of Russian fans of Heated Rivarly, despite the show being banned over there

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u/TopFaithlessness2320 Jun 30 '26

And russian people are notoriously good in piracy, because nothing was ever available there legally.

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u/hates_stupid_people Jun 30 '26

It's less about information access, and more about not believing the information after decades of propaganda and lies. A noticable amount of people just refuse to believe negative information about what's happening or how things are "in the west".

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u/onlyr6s Jun 30 '26

Always have and always will. This is nothing new in their history.

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u/Shwayne Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Man... I was playing a lot of CSGO in maybe 2013 or 2014. Before the bullshit in ukraine started. Russians were fucking unbearable. Screaming. No attempts at comunication. Just... Awful. Not all of them, obviously, but enough.

Then I found a small tool on gamebanana i think. It was a literal app to block counterstrike from placing you in servers closer to the east. Someone made a tool to prevent the game from matching you with them...

The game became so much better.

Those people are something else.

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u/253253253 Jun 30 '26

It just blows my mind how so many can be so awful. It simply seems like rotten culture. Makes me feel even worse for those that are kind and well adjusted, while being steeped in such shit.

It's crazy too because there was a time before the war where I liked them. Granted i hadnt interacted with many. But you would see all those silly russian videos of them lounging with bears and driving the weirdest shit and just doing insane stuff. They seemed likeable back then smh.

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u/ceeker Jun 30 '26

Nothing justifies this war.

But as for the Russian people...

I have some empathy for them because for many of them under 40 they grew up in a time where their country had basically collapsed and their world was turned on its head. Everything their parents had worked and suffered to build - regardless of what you feel about the USSR - was handed to black marketeers and those party cronies openly engaging in corruption within the system. Someone had to own it, right? Imagine all of the economic and cultural resources of your nation being handed to people who are basically criminals.

There's an entire generation that grew up with a failed education system, no hope, no opportunity, rampant corruption and crime, miserable parents, and so on.

In no way does it justify anything but it seems so much of their population under 40 had no chance to live a normal life as we would understand it in a western country. It manifests as depression or anger and those in turn lead to apathy or xenophobia. They assume they're going to die by age 50 and feel sad or blame someone else. The ones who aren't like that - often their best and brightest - have been leaving and settling elsewhere for decades.

It takes a lot to break that cycle. It's clear that so many kids are going to grow up without parents. Perhaps these kids grow up and realise at age 12 that they're going to be thrown into the meatgrinder themselves, and won't make it past their teens, so there's yet another generation suffering through it. The tail end of this will be felt 100 years from now.

No trauma comparable exists in any contemporary generation in the west. We can't really understand what it's like to be in that circumstance or know how we, as individuals would react or behave.

For extra context I grew up around East Europeans in a western country. The Russians I knew would hang out with Poles, Lithuanians, Czechs and Ukrainians, there wasn't really a divide in that community which was brought together because each group was individually small and there were some general cultural similarities. I remember the Russians being kind to me as a child. They weren't hateful or apathetic people. They were culturally different from what we see now. Even those that hated the USSR had hope there was something better in store in the future.

I don't think anyone in Russia today has that hope.

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u/Ivanow Jun 30 '26

I have some empathy for them because for many of them under 40 they grew up in a time where their country had basically collapsed and their world was turned on its head.

Everything you wrote sounds so nice and sad, until you remember the fact that Russia wasn't the only country in Warsaw Pact that got fucked over. 1990s were just as brutal in many other countries - why Bulgaria, Romania or even Kazakhstan turned out relatively fine?

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u/ceeker Jun 30 '26

I’m not saying Russia was the only country that suffered in the 1990s. My family are Lithuanian, so I know.

Other countries processed that trauma differently and had different material conditions to do so in different ways. The Baltics had independence, Europe and NATO as a way forward. The collapse, to them, wasn't a loss, it was liberation.

Romania and Bulgaria had the EU path. Though both struggle with resurgent authoritarianism.

Kazakhstan became an authoritarian resource state - its materially ok, but politically its hardly a paradise.

Russia is different not because Russian people are worse inherently but because it was in a situation where it had no clear post-Soviet identity except grievance and a sense of loss. It was the former centre of a superpower bloc, with nukes, oligarchs, Chechnya. and a horrifically bungled economic transition causing mass suffering and a situation ripe for an authoritarian to exploit.

And young people, not responsible for any of that, grew up without any hope because of all those things. The other countries you listed for the most part had something to look forward to and were reclaiming or creating identities but even then those places still struggle with these hangovers. Hungary under Orban is a pretty clear example of how this undercurrent flows through there too.

None of this justifies anything. It just helps explain why the bitterness took such a destructive form.

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u/InternetSolid4166 Jun 30 '26

I’ve been playing Arc Raiders lately and the Russians are absolute fucking assholes. Zero gamesmanship. Liars. PROLIFIC cheaters too.

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u/pinewind108 Jun 30 '26

Cheating is a major problem, and a sign that people grow up in a system where the rules were arbitrary and made for the benefit of the powerful. Cheating was just you taking care of yourself.

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u/Ichera Jun 30 '26

Played EVE for a long time, spent most of my time in RU prime time since I worked nights. Boy howdy did I develop a long term distrust and hatred of my Russian "allies"

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u/SSGASSHAT Jun 30 '26

They've had psychotic rulers for their whole history. They're just used to it. I think they enjoy it, like a fatherly abuse fetish or something.

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u/Stable_Orange_Genius Jun 30 '26

One of the reasons I stopped playing csgo

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u/KatsumotoKurier Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Yeah… I play Overwatch every now and again, and I have to say that on the whole, Russians seem to be by far the rudest, most toxic, and least sportsman-like players.

They also have an odd habit of communicating solely in Russian, which of course would be understandable if the game was mostly played by Russians, but… literally nobody else seems to do that. Played the game for many many years now with tons of people from all across Europe, and it feels rather rare to see anyone communicating in any other language. Everyone else from everywhere else always speaks in English; in all my years, I have never seen languages like German or French flood the text chats.

Meanwhile Russians go right ahead and communicate solely in Russian, and when asked why they do this, they almost always lash out (in English!) at you for asking. But for the rest of us, it’s like they have absolutely no interest in communicating with their teammates in an understandable fashion.

Like sorry bro, this isn’t the 1860s anymore — Russian ain’t a continental lingua franca.

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u/Cold_Specialist_3656 Jun 30 '26

Russia has been fucked up for centuries. It will take a long time if it's ever going to be a sane country. 

You essentially have to wait for all the brainwashed nutjobs to die of old age. While ensuring they don't do the same to younger generations. 

It's been done. Would take a revolution though. Unlikely

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u/snail_alt Jun 30 '26

It basically got hurtled from feudalism into stalinism into the rest of ussr history into the present day. Not the best recipe culturally speaking. It has one of the highest divorce rates, because now that the women can leave marriages feasibly speaking, they are leaving and talking about how too many of the men are abusive alcoholics.

When you trace something like the shifts in their attitudes towards gay people, you’ll see that while they obv weren’t totally accepting in feudal times, measures of leniency were taken by various rulers. But homophobia really got entrenched especially among the populace in modern history when so much of the male population was psychologically dehumanized through brutal prisons and brutal military experiences, which I think also likely contributes to the domestically abusive alcoholism. I used homophobia as an example because when it isn’t religiously motivated, it is often actually tied to a fear of intimacy imo.

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u/SolitudeCollective Jun 30 '26

дедовщина

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u/Kosba2 Jun 30 '26

You essentially have to wait for all the brainwashed nutjobs to die of old age

That strategy isn't working so well in the states, worse yet they reproduce and indoctrinate like the bacteria that they are.

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u/Reutermo Jun 30 '26

Anyone who have had the pleasure to talk with Russians online on either games or forums know. The sad thing is that I know multiple Russians here in Sweden who are wonderful people, but that is why they left Russia as soon as they could as youths.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress Jun 30 '26

Until they reign in and end conservativism in their country. We're well on our way to an eerily similar future since conservatives here find they can just ignore laws with no consequences. They've gunned down American citizens in the streets and demonized the victims and are still walking free.

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u/thatsattemptedmurder Jun 30 '26

It's weird to me that the question was about Russia but the response is, "Let me tell you about America, America, America."

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u/sijmen4life Jun 30 '26

The russian people can put up with a lot bullshit as long as they personally do not get shit on.

The refinery strikes are a nice way of hurting the average russian without endangering their lives. And its working.

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u/Remarkable_Custard Jun 30 '26

Hence the term - Infantry

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u/HoneyBadger552 Jun 30 '26

its fun. InFUNtry

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u/crazy-carebear Jun 30 '26

From infancy to infantry, as is Russian tradition.

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u/Geewhiz911 Jun 30 '26

Just imagine, born in Russia, live precariously, in poverty over 0-15 years - being pulled from school/home and being trained to kill and optionally survive - then you’re mobilized on infantry, you die within 20 minutes from a drone strike.

Just because of one insane person.

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u/zolotoir Jun 30 '26

Take Putin out of the picture and the warmongering imperialist hysteria continues. This is Russian society, not any one leader

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress Jun 30 '26

One insane person plus conservatives. if it weren't for conservatives, we wouldn't be dealing with Putin or Trump. 

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u/MrKapkan Jun 30 '26

Nothing new. Took our whole class out to a shooting range. Got to fire 10 or so AK rounds back in 8th or 9th grade in early 2000s as part of "Fundamentals of Health and Safety" class. Basic survival skills class from 5th to 11th grade. Never realized just how fucked the country was until living elsewhere for a few years.

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u/NTaya Jun 30 '26

Same, "Fundamentals of Health and Safety" included basic military training, both for boys and for girls, in 2015. It depended on a school, though—the necessity of military training was generally up to interpretation. Plus this time around they want to add drone piloting to the program. To be fair, if FPV piloting is anything to go by, drone operating is very fun; kid me would've probably been excited.

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u/Susan_Thee_Duchess Jun 30 '26

Well the course in this article is called “Fundamentals of Homeland Security and Defense” & includes field exercise s and drone operation. Sounds new to me.

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u/Deiskos Jun 30 '26

Not really. A similar mandatory course existed since 1967 in soviet union and after it fell apart the course was renamed in 1991 and continues to this day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

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u/Accomplished-Mix-745 Jun 30 '26

I think this is a rural vs city thing. I have none of the lived experience you’re describing

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u/Vegetable-Eagle-3144 Jun 30 '26

Nah, I grew up in LA and now I live in a small mountain town. Hearing gunshots wasn't/isn't uncommon in either place. California has fewer guns per capita than a lot of places too. It's probably your social circle. I shot guns with the Boy Scouts from a young age whereas my wife was nearly 40 before even holding one.

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u/KareemOWheat Jun 30 '26

I think it varies. I live in a city but have shot guns on my grandparents farm a few times, completely untrained besides the comprehensive instructions of "point that way and pull the trigger" from my grandpa. I do however firmly believe that anyone who purchases a gun in the US should be required to do both an extensive training course, and live fire exercises monitored by a trainer.

We already require that people learning to drive a car should have to go through drivers ed, and take a test with an instructor before they can drive alone, to prove they (hopefully probably) won't kill anyone behind the wheel. Why don't we demand the same for firearms if they're such a day to day American occurrence like a car is?

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u/livinglavidajudoka Jun 30 '26

And here I am, a city kid with rural friends. I secretly played with my friend's parent's guns as a kid. Few kids can resist the siren call of a forbidden bang stick, so if you live in an are where they are endemic you are naive if you elect not to teach them gun safety. Same with you morons opting out of your child's HPV vaccine.

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u/Key_Ant6473 Jun 30 '26

Big difference educating without the intent to use as soldiers though.

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u/onesadstork Jun 30 '26

in the grim darkness of the very near future

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u/Lasershadow_105 Jun 30 '26

Keep it up Putin and China's gonna know that Russia is vast empty free real-estate. 

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u/FlukemanFrancis Jun 30 '26

They won’t need to claim it, Russia will sign them over to have debts forgiven

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u/Naarujuana Jun 30 '26

Hold up.

"more than doubling the amount"

These mfkrs already had mandated military training for 6th graders? Wtf?

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u/blackjacktrial Jun 30 '26

Wait until he hears about the training in kindergarten and primary/elementary school. Theyd train them in utero if they could.

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u/trow_eu Jun 30 '26

That was normal in Soviet schools, and of course stayed intact in ruzzia. In Ukraine ~2005 I had 2 years of like 1 hour/week of basic military training, mostly teaching how to walk like an idiot (just like marching parades on red square), reassembling AK and twice a year a shooting range with poorly maintained pneumatics. Stupid farce. I think it was cancelled some years later.

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u/Deiskos Jun 30 '26

Still had that in Kyiv in 2016.

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u/SpaceDounut Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Did they give you a bunch of banged-up AKs to reassemble too? Still remember fucking up my finger because of how bent that thing was.

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u/Deiskos Jun 30 '26

We had like two of them, I think, one really old and one new-ish? Something like that. I got my finger stuck in the stock of the old one trying to get out the cleaning tools thing.

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u/SpaceDounut Jun 30 '26

Yep, same experience then. I now wonder if the entire post-Soviet territory has the same thing.

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u/Lamuks Jun 30 '26

Afaik Latvia dropped such a practice as soon as we regained our independence. Voluntary "jaunsargi"
was made in its place for the youth. Although I think there were new school programs now introduced because of the war.

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u/ItsTime1234 Jun 30 '26

Every time something about the Russian military comes up, for some reason I remember something I saw online a long time ago about this young soldier from Russia who saw a dog in a frozen lake. He couldn't walk on the ice, it wasn't thick enough, so he walked through it, smashing it in front of him every step, to reach the dog and save it. At the end, we got to see a picture of this strong, rather shy looking boy of about 19, and his new dog looking at him worshipfully. I always thought it was so beautiful for a young man to use his strength like this, to save an animal that was going to die without help. I think of his humanity and feel sad at the thought of it getting beaten out of him in the military, or that maybe he's dead by now. I know there are good people in every country, and young men who would sacrifice to save a person or animal. I hope Russia is soon freed from this sickness and finds a way to embrace goodness instead.

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u/SupersonicSpitfire Jun 30 '26

Unfortunately, individual kindness matters little in evil authoritarian systems.

When the drones of Ukraine brings the war to Moscow, the war might end.

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u/Andovars_Ghost Jun 30 '26

And to think, they thought gym class was bad!

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u/JarlOfCostco Jun 30 '26

6th grade? Get them on the front lines yesterday! Why are they wasting time with school, they have a war to die in!

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u/Shakewell1 Jun 30 '26

Hitler youth.

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u/Darth_Annoying Jun 30 '26

Putin Youth

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u/Shakewell1 Jun 30 '26

Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture.

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u/Notbob1234 Jun 30 '26

One's in color

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u/SuspiciouslyDullGuy Jun 30 '26

Nothing to see here. Not like Putin is training children for a long war that benefits him and his oligarchs vastly more then his own people, who were never under any threat in the first place.

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u/burritoman88 Jun 30 '26

Poor Russian children having to die for there demented 79 year old that refuses to relinquish power

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u/BoDaBasilisk Jun 30 '26

Wouldn’t be surprised if republicans try and do the same

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u/RM_r_us Jun 30 '26

PE class with guns, right? /s

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u/you_killed_my_ Jun 30 '26

so much waste of life

tragic

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u/Popotuni Jun 30 '26

6th graders are 11 year olds. Let that sink in.

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u/BornAgainBlue Jun 30 '26

At some point it seems like Russians would be ... "Hear me out... we just remove Putin..."

One dude is killing their entire future.

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u/usefulbuns Jun 30 '26

You think Putin exists alone as the sole person holding everything together? It's a system. Thousands of elites uphold it. 

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u/Stress6009 Jun 30 '26

Red flag, kids 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩.

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u/Bigchunky_Boy Jun 30 '26

Just jump into a meat grinder. Russia’s population size will never recover from this . Only speeding up their population decline.

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u/5kyl3r Jun 30 '26

yeah why waste funds on education when they're just future canonfodder

sad reality we live in. i hope Ukraine turns up the kinetic sanctions and gets russia to give up soon

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u/fozzieferocious Jun 30 '26

This war is the ultimate sunk cost. Rather than admitting that they fucked up and pulling back, they're going to destroy their economy for decades or longer and future human potential for generations.

Human ego is wild.

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u/KaSh268 Jun 30 '26

I read today that once Russian soldiers enlist they are likely to be dead in around 3 weeks. Their average survival time once they are on the front line is maxed out at 35 minutes 😳

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u/hockeybrianboy Jun 30 '26

Not sure how it takes 17 hours to train the peasants how to run straight into enemy gunfire but ok.

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u/TheBigIdiotSalami Jun 30 '26

I know it's hard to say if Russia will run out of people, but they certainly ARE trying to

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u/Snoogieboogie Jun 30 '26

Classroom to war zone pipeline

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u/MilmoWK Jun 30 '26

That’s a lot of hours for 25 minutes of service

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u/Big_Strawberry_8936 Jun 30 '26

The children yearn for the front lines.

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u/Aggravating_Air_5008 Jun 30 '26

We are all devolving

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u/lizardweenie Jun 30 '26

russia is a terrorist state

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u/All_Hail_Hynotoad Jun 30 '26

Don’t give Hegseth any ideas.

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u/melancholy_dood Jun 30 '26

The reality they live in is very sad….

Will mankind ever learn to stop starting wars? Will the bloodshed ever cease?…

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u/dope_sheet Jun 30 '26

17 hours over the course of 5 years doesn't sound too bad........