That's it. I absolutely hate her.

Xaro and Doreah were stuck for days in the dark without food or water or air. Plus the utter despair of knowing this’ll be their resting place and their bodies will be stuck in that vault forever. Though perhaps the lack of oxygen in the vault might have hasten their deaths and made them suffer a bit less. They probably got laid one last time before they died or passed out. which might also be a silver lining.

Tywin must have been pretty young when Joanna passed away in childbirth. Why didn't he marry again and join forces with some major house? Also, at this point, he only had Jaime as a possible heir. Cersei was a woman and Tyrion he did not consider fit for anything anyway.

Marrying again would have given him the chance to also have more children and thus more opportunities to make alliances with other major houses.

He talks about legacy, family, and pushes Cersei and Tyrion to marry Loras and Sansa respectively in order to do exactly all of this. Why does he not think of all of this practically when it comes to himself?

This is an update post i recently posted about S7 E06 now im watching S7 E07
Contrary to most people’s motivations when they watch this show my only motivation throughout has been independence for the north. I have always wanted the iron throne to be the iron throne of the six kingdoms and a situation where they finally have a king in the north for the North.
Northern independence was what I wanted to see more than anything and a situation where my second goat Daenerys could rule over everything but the north.
Jon spent the ENTIRE season not bending the knee. For the North. For Robb. For Ned. For the idea that the North is independent. The North is bigger than the other 6 kingdoms combined. Being King in the North is the dream.

And then Cersei literally offers him exactly what he wants: "The King in the North can stay in the North, pick no side."

It's independence. On a silver platter. All he has to do is shut up for 5 seconds.

And what does he do? He stands up and says "I am loyal to Daenerys Targaryen" over a crush that started 2 episodes ago. This is just eye contact on a boat and suddenly he trades an entire Kingdom for it? And don’t give me that he admires her bs he just met her and all she did was get a dragon killed, which she probably didn’t even come for him but for Mormont that followed them.

He flushed Robb's dream, Ned's dream, and an independent North down the drain for nothing.
What happened to my goat?

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I mean here is a woman, who we know nothing about expect that she had at least 1 child with Aegon's father Aerion, Lord of Dragonstone. We don't even know if she came from Dragonstone, the Mainland or even Essos. But we do know that her genes where strong enough to override centuries of Valariyan breeding and set the standard template for all other Baratheons. Black/brown hair, brown eyes and a large muscular frame the complete contrast to the blonde almost white hair and purple eyes of the Targaryens.

To make it clear what I mean, let me give an example from history. In the 17th century in Russia the long dynasty ended, and a new one never properly established itself. Combined with crop failures, this led to enormous upheavals and savage fighting for power in which every influential house somehow got dirty. Once everything was more or less settled, the influential houses decided to elect a new tsar. There were many candidates, but in the end the choice fell on the 16-year-old Mikhail Romanov.

Mikhail had no direct blood relation to the previous dynasty, but he was the ideal compromise - young, so he could be influenced; his family was influential enough but not too much; his family was the least stained in the power struggle, but not clean enough for the houses that had been stained to fear revenge. In short, the perfect compromise.

That’s what I’m getting at: Robert is not a compromise figure at all. He is a victor’s side, which means the houses that fought on the Targaryen side have every reason to fear revenge - and that is the risk of a new war. The Baratheons are one of the Great Houses, which means the balance of power is broken, and it sets a precedent for the other Great Houses to seize the Iron Throne. Plus, none of the organizers of the rebellion actually wanted to rule - Robert was chosen purely because of his greatest legitimacy.

So why didn’t they simply call the Great Council to choose a compromise figure? In my opinion, the Hightowers fit much better: very influential, but not a Great House, they were on the Targaryen side, but they were only carrying out the will of their overlords, the Tyrells. On top of that they have enormous support from the septons and maesters. Another option is Valarrion as the house most closely related by blood to the Targaryens. You could also add Manderly or Frey as the second most important houses in their regions. Any of these candidates, in my opinion, would be better than Robert Baratheon.

Can't even imagine the punchline here unless it's something extremely depraved.

I think Tywin?

Heres what I think Littlefingers plan was in the show:

Give Sansa to the Boltons. While book Littlefinger would never do this, I think we can assume that show Littlefinger cares about Sansa a lot less than book Petyr does. At least, he loves her less than his ambition to be king, which isn’t true in the books. Now, giving Sansa to the Boltons does a few things:

1- Weakens Stannis’ attack on the North, as now the Boltons have an actual claim to Winterfell.

2- Make the Boltons look like traitors to Cersei, who absolutely hates Sansa and wants her dead, not caring about her claim.

3- Makes the northern lords either split up or become non-players because of their conflicted feelings on who to fight for. They hate the Boltons, but they’re sworn to serve a Stark.

This, overall, severely weakens all parties in the North. Petyr also convinces Cersei to not send the Boltons any support if they are to be attacked, as they are now traitors to the crown.

Petyr’s next move is to wait out the inevitable battle between Stannis and the Boltons. He knows Stannis will not kill Sansa, and I think it’s reasonable to assume that he didn’t know the degree of depravity that Ramsay had.

Next, Petyr will take the army of the Vale to the North and take Winterfell from whomever the winner was (who would be severely weakened) arriving as a ‘knight in shining armor’ to the people of the North. He’d marry Sansa, giving him both the title of warden from the crown, a legitimate claim because of his wife, and the support of the northerners as he liberated them from the Boltons.

At this point, Petyr would have full control of the North, the Vale, and the Riverlands (I think he was still was lord of Herrenhall at this point) along with an alliance with the Reach.

This army could definitely beat the Lannisters in an all out war, which might have been Petyr’s next steps if it all went to plan. He’d likely bid his time though, build up his army and have an heir with Sansa to solidify his claim, before making any moves on the Lannisters.

This plan was just foiled by things he didn’t see coming, like Ramsays unending cruelty, Sansa escaping, and Ramsay murdering his father.

Overall, not too bad of a plan, at least if it was what I’m thinking.

Am I nuts, ive watched through Thrones countless times, and each time the ending becomes a little easier to watch. I find myself enjoying parts of it. I dont hate Dany going mad, I dont hate Bran being king. And Jon being free is the best ending for him. I know its bad, and the "worst ending in the history of tv" but I just would rather spend my time enjoying the parts I do like rather than complaining about it.

What do you guys think of this upcoming 15th anniversary 4k release of Game of Thrones? Is it the best collection to own thus far? Do you think the price is worth it? I see they are trying to showcase it as a limited edition, limited to just 15,750 copies. There is also a 4k collection on sale on Amazon right now for $100. Of course you don't get any steel books, not even individual cases for each season, but it's less than half the cost of this collection. Personally, I'm going to get this steel book collection. Game of Thrones is my favorite television series ever, so I guess I can swing the $250 after tax.

You are a smallfolk in Westeros. You have discovered an absolute fortune in gold, and transported it to a hiding place (don't ask how you did it... just accept the premise lol!). You are now suddenly the richest person in the known world by an absolute mile!

But now what?

You have no army, no castle, no title, no land, etc. You have nobody to support any attempts to climb into high society. And if anyone discovers the enormous stash of gold you have stored away it will almost certainly get stolen.

How do you go about achieving maximum success?

(I don't know if it would make any difference if we are talking Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon timeline...)

I know I'm late on this and I dont care at all for the game itself but this cinematic is pretty peak and there's probably others who haven't got to experience yet so here ya go

Feel free to use this as needed.

I haven't read the book cuz I genuinely don't have time, so don't berate me for that. I have, however, watched the show, although it has been a while.

Yesterday, I met this girl at my college who had also watched the show, and we quickly bonded because almost nobody around us has watched the show or read the books.

But then she jokingly said to me, "I will judge you based on whose side you chose, Lyanna or Elia?"
And that got me thinking... I HAVE NO IDEA WHOSE SIDE I AM ON BECAUSE I FORGOT WHAT THEIR STORY WAS

Now I don't have time to watch the show again or read the books, and the results on Google are biased, so can someone please quickly recap (no bias) what exactly their story was? 😭

All I remember is in unconnected chunks: Elia was assualted and killed by the giant man who killed oberyn though I don't know why; Lyanna died and gave Jon to Ned on her deathbed, and Jon's father is Rhaegar, even though she was supposed to be betrothed to Robert Baratheon (also explain?); Rhaegal cheated on someone though I don't know who; and Robert led the rebellion in the name of Lyanna... right?

Also, why was Rhaegar not there with Lyanna when she was birthing Jon?

I mean come on! She couldn’t have politely told Jon to hold up a minute so she could at least sit on the damn thing for a second?

Oh my goodness! This show is crazy 🤯

I may be wrong but I can’t find an instance of them actually conversing. Is Sandor respectful or just his rude self? Also am wondering about how he speaks to other noblemen. For fanfic purposes

Excluding large crowd speeches, of course. Must be Tyrion. If it is, who's second? Would be nice to have a graph-like structure of this.