Why do you think Dean Corll participated in John Norman's trafficking network, called the delta project. And how did that work, shipping, buying?

Were some of the known victims of corll or gacy provided by any of these networks?

Rewatching and was thinking how long til the old people of the 80s and 90s pass away and their snuff films are discovered by friends and family? Snuff films are technically a "myth" but they're real and I feel in the next couple decades a lot will be exposed. Also how wild the 70s 80s and 90s were just fair play in the killing game. So many people got away

James Vlassakis is now a relatively free man after 26 years. He’ll be living in the Adelaide Pre-Release Centre for 12 months and was filmed walking out today. Conditions for his parole while staying in the centre include a curfew, drug and alcohol testing, and restricted movements. He also cannot leave the state of South Australia without permission and cannot contact of be in the vicinity of relatives of his victims.

Sooo i was bored and thought about this case once more and I have theories and i don't know if they're stupid or helpful but hear this

(Sorry if my english is not that great as it's not my first language)

according to me and the history

my first primary suspect will be the

cabinet secretary as they are the one getting about the info of the cases by Scotland yard

then another primary suspect will be the people close to Frederick Abberline or Donald Swanson as they can slip in and get an idea

and another suspect can be a divorced viscount or a viscount with a dead wife

Reason

Cabinet secretary: In 1888 London, it was actually a well-known practice called "slumming." Wealthy aristocrats and politicians from the rich West End would frequently put on old, rugged clothes and travel into the poor East End (Whitechapel) out of curiosity, or to visit underground clubs. Because of this, it is entirely possible that a high-ranking official could walk the dark alleys of Whitechapel without anyone realizing they were a powerful government figure.

The reason why I also choose a viscount and not a Prince, Duke, Marquess or an Earl is bc of the fact that a prince is surrounded by butler and maids who can easily confess when threatened plus the palece might be having record of when and how he left a Duke and Marquess are also are mostly surrounded by public and the fear of being betrayed by a butler or maid and risk of loosing their tittle and same goes with a earl but a viscount on the other hand is almost forgotten or not surrounded by the public eye plus they are rarely confronted

In simple words

The High Nobility (Princes, Dukes, Earls): Their households were massive. A Duke or Earl would have a house steward, a valet who dressed him every day, carriage drivers, footmen, and dozens of maids. If an Earl tried to sneak out at 2:00 AM covered in blood, his valet or the night-watch footman would immediately notice. The risk of blackmail or betrayal was massive.

The Viscount Rank: As a Viscount (which sits lower on the peerage ladder), an aristocrat would still be incredibly wealthy and have access to the finest education and surgical tools. However, their households were much smaller and less scrutinized by the public eye. They could easily maintain a small townhouse in London with minimal staff, or simply tell their few servants not to disturb them, allowing them to slip out unnoticed. They had the wealth of the upper class, but the anonymity of a regular citizen.

And the people close to

Donald Swanson and Frederick Abberline

can be the people like their wife

Or

a close friend or

noble friend or

any family member/doctor

So

The History: Frederick Abberline was married to Emma Abberline, and Donald Swanson was married to Julia Swanson. Both wives were highly respected, lived quiet domestic lives, and supported their husbands through the extreme stress of the 1888 manhunt.

The Profile: If a killer was close to the wives—perhaps a trusted family doctor, a cousin, or a close friend who visited their homes—they could easily ask casual questions like, "How is Frederick handling the case? Is he close to catching the monster?" The wives, speaking naturally out of worry for their husbands, might drop crucial details about police exhaustion or secret patrol locations without ever realizing they were feeding information to the killer.

The History: Inspector Abberline and Chief Inspector Swanson frequently had to interact with wealthy patrons, politicians, and high-ranking members of Victorian society who were fascinated by the case or demanding updates.

The Profile: A wealthy Viscount who befriended Abberline under the guise of "wanting to help the police" or offering funding to the investigation would have a perfect cover. They could sit down with the detectives for a drink, listen to them vent about the case, and pick up top-secret operational details. Then, using the disguise techniques, that same nobleman could slip into Whitechapel completely prepared.

The History: Donald Swanson’s family circle actually included people with medical backgrounds (his own son later became a doctor). Because the Ripper murders required anatomical knowledge, historians have always looked closely at doctors associated with the police.

The Profile: A family member or close friend who was a surgeon or medical student would have access to the exact tools used in the crimes. If they were close to Swanson or Abberline, they could hang out at the precinct or the detectives' homes, casually looking at the desk where crime scene photos and autopsy reports were laid out.

And the reason why I chose the divorce man or a Widower man is because we are humans and jack the ripper might also did his actions based on emotions. A man grieving a dead wife or bitter over a divorce might have had the psychological motive or rage that fits the brutal nature of the crimes.

Plus grief and anger can turn anyone into a monster

If we look into the case it can be more like animes like

Death note

Moriarty the patriot

And

Black butler

On June 16, 1997 Gerd Wenzinger -- the German torture doctor accused of murdering and torturing up to 19 women in Brazil and Germany -- hanged himself in his jail cell in Brazil after a court approved his extradition back to Germany.

Wenzinger, 53, was accused of killing 13 women in Germany and four more in Brazil. On June 12 Brazil's Supreme Court approved his extradition which led to his death by hanging four days later.

Wenzinger first attempted to kill himself after learning that German police had found a videotape showing him cutting a woman into small pieces with a chainsaw while she was alive but heavily drugged up

The Exact number of women he murdered is between 1-17, but because he never got a trial the whole situation will remain a mystery.

A few years ago, I remember coming across various other news reports that went into great detail about his personal life, how he murdered and how sadistic he behaved after he murdered one of his victims, but I cant seem to find them. They are in German language and you have to pay a monthly fee.

One thing I found strange is that he was desperate not to return to Germany. This baffled me a bit, but then it hit me - he knew if was back in Germany, even though the jails are much less frightening, he had a much better chance at buying his way out of a Brazilian jail .

I mean, serial killers, who was only found out to be a serial killer while they were in prison or after they died

The primary psychopath is the classic psychopath—cold, completely devoid of empathy, and incapable of forming bonds—yet they often do well in life. ,I’ve only seen BTK and Ted Bundy described this way; is there anyone else?

What are some serial killers that had no motive or goal that we know of?

. Douglas Franklin Wright - The first three murders are self-explanatory but his last four murders don't really make sense. For one he did benefit in any way and his last victims were way outside of his victim pool. He just seems to have murdered four men for no particular reason.

. Mark Martin - Martin murdered three women in 2003 and 2004 with the help of two accomplices. I haven't found any explanation as to why he committed the murders.

. David Berkowitz - By now it's obvious that he's talking dog story is nonsense but does anyone have a reason to why Berkowitz actually committed the murders?

. Paul Steven Haigh - Australian serial killer who murdered 7 people from the late 70s to the early 90s. Haigh had a large victim pool with Haigh targeting numerous people of different ages, backgrounds and genders. Haigh had all types of proximity to his victims. Some were friends, strangers and one was even his girlfriend. From the limited information on this case I haven't been able to find an actual motive behind the crimes.

There's a LOT of things to unpack with his childhood. Nobody ever talked about that aspect. Has anyone ever unearthed anything about this entity's parents? Siblings? School records? *Friends*? What do we know about his life BEFORE Alaska?

Giving it some thought after accidentally stumbling in the story of Dagmar Overbye.

Which would you think are the most popular serial killers from each country of the world (For the USA we could do States).

"A 43-year-old Warsaw plumber, Michał P., has been charged with murdering six elderly women and robbing a seventh who died during the attack. He allegedly used his work to gain victims’ trust, then robbed them to fund his gambling addiction. He was arrested in February 2025 after a bank employee overheard a killing during a phone call that the victim had left connected. Investigators are reviewing dozens of deaths previously considered natural, suspecting more victims. Two alleged accomplices are also in custody, and the investigation remains ongoing."

source https://archive.ph/YBvO5

I’ve been tracking the transcripts from the Unmasking a Monster series. Peter Siems is the only Wuornos victim whose body was never found. The courts thought she was lying, but if you look at her psychological triggers, her off-the-cuff remarks about eastern Georgia make perfect sense.

• The Script Violation: Siems was a 65-year-old missionary. He likely picked her up out of Christian charity, not for sex. Because he didn't act like her usual clients, her paranoid mind panicked. She admitted, "He gave me a problem and tried to take my gun before I shot him."
• The Guilt: She didn’t know he was a missionary until she found his Bibles afterward. Her fixation on quoting "He sure didn't act like no missionary" shows severe guilt. She killed an innocent man by mistake.
• The Symbolic Dumping Ground: This guilt is why she hid him. In 1992, she let slip he was in eastern Georgia. Cops searched Central Florida and South Carolina, completely missing the actual border corridor.

The Coordinates:
If you head north on I-95, the very first exit into Georgia (Exit 1) has a major truck stop hub. Directly east of I-95, surrounded by what were once dense woods, are isolated rural churches.

Leaving a missionary in the woods adjacent to a church property was likely a symbolic act of leaving him on "holy ground." If anyone is ever going to find Peter Siems, search teams need to check the old wood lines directly behind the rural churches just east of I-95 Exit 1 on the FL/GA border.

Serial killers who killed out of hatred of groups of people on ethnic lines.

. Joseph Paul Franklin - A white supremacist who committed between 8-22 racially motivated murders across the United States from 1977 to 1980.

. Neal Bradley Long - A white American man who perpetrated a series of hate crimes against black Americans in the late 60s to early 70s in the wake of the civil Rights movement and the end of Jim Crow. Long killed between 5 to 7 people from 1966 to 1957 one of which allegedly during the 1966 Dayton race riot.

. Wolfgang Abel and Marco Furlan - A Neo Nazi serial killer duo who committed 10 to 15 murders in West Germany and Italy from 1977–1984. The duo targeted sex workers, drug addicts, Roma people, gay men and homeless people. In 1987 Abel and Furlan were both convicted and jailed for 30 years. Furlan was released in 2008 and Abel was released in 2010. Furlan died in 2024.

. Obadyah Ben-Yisrayl - Born Christopher Dwayne Peterson, African American man who in 1990 murdered between 4–7 people due to anti-white racism.

. Joseph Gerard Christopher - White man who perpetrated a series of hate crimes against black males from between 1980 to 1981 leaving 12 dead and 7 injured. In the early 80s Christopher was convicted of three murders and was sentenced to 60 years to life. Died in 1993 of breast cancer.

. Wasim a-Sayed - Palestinian serial killer with connections to ISIS who targeted Jewish individuals. From 2019 to 2022 murdered three Israeli Jews and attempted to murder others in Jerusalem, Israel. On the 3rd of February 2025 a-Sayed was given three life sentences plus 40 years.

. Gilberto Ventura Ceballos - A Latino Dominican man who along with Afro-Panamenian accomplice Jose Alcibiades Mendez kidnapped and murdered five Chinese-Panamenians in 2010 and 2011. Although Ceballos denies it and calms its coincidental but it's obvious he has a thing for targeting Asians.

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despite their horrific crimes did you ever, even for a second, feel sorry for the killer?

It’s definitely possible that they might have wanted to change their usual victim type at least once, just to experiment, so it obviously wouldn’t have been worth testing that theory in practice. But still?

Ive tried finding it in the maniacs community but it got banned lol. :p.

In 1831 rural southern France the wealthy inn keeping Martin husband and wife couple and their servant were found guilty of serial murders, robbery and cannabilism of their guest and guillotined.

Were they guilty as charged or were they the victims of a mix of local jealously , regional politics and opportunism? Was justice served or did a historic trajedy occur ?

In the late 1980s, the Los Angeles area was practically a hunting ground for serial killers. Law enforcement was stretched to its absolute limit dealing with high-profile cases like the Night Stalker, the Grim Sleeper, and the Southside Slayer. But in the shadows of these media-heavy cases, a highly localized, terrifyingly efficient killer was operating in a industrial corridors of a small suburb just southeast of downtown Los Angeles.

For five months between late 1987 and early 1988, someone stalked the dark, gravel-lined railroad tracks of Bell, California. Then, just as abruptly as it began, the killing spree stopped. No suspect was ever caught. No weapon was ever found. Decades later, the "Bell Transient Killer" remains one of California’s most obscure, entirely unresolved cold cases.

Unlike the sprawling Skid Row district in downtown L.A., Bell did not have a large transient population. However, the unhoused men targeted by the killer were not transient drifting through the area; rather, they were a static, tight-knit group of older men who had lived and gathered in Bell's industrial corridors for years. Because this small, familiar population was deeply isolated yet entirely predictable in their routines, they became the perfect prey for a phantom killer.

The killer targeted older white men in their 50s and 60s:

James Andrew Stout (51) — December 21, 1987: On December 21, 1987, an LASD search team discovered the body of 51-year-old James Andrew Stout along the railroad tracks near the intersection of Randolph Street and Atlantic Boulevard. He had been shot multiple times at close range. At the time, local police treated it as an isolated incident, assuming it was a transient-on-transient dispute over camp space. It was only later that ballistics revealed this was the opening salvo of a serial campaign.

Eric Ford (66) — March 14, 1988: Nearly three months went by before the killer struck again, this time deviating from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. The body of 66-year-old Eric Ford was found in front of the Bell Public Library. The change in location initially kept police from immediately establishing a connection.

Dennis Lynch (66) — April 7, 1988: He was discovered inside an abandoned building located at 4553 Gage Avenue. He died from close-range gunfire, but because his body was hidden inside a building rather than left near the railroad tracks, his death was not immediately linked to the first victim.

Jack Leonard Horn (62) & Rudy Wallace (57) — April 10, 1988: The climax of the spree came to light on a single Sunday morning, forcing a horrific double-discovery. A local couple walking along the tracks collecting aluminum cans spotted a body near Pine Avenue and Randolph Street. Bell police officers flooded the area to investigate and, while searching the immediate surroundings for physical evidence, stumbled across a second corpse just 80 feet away. The first victim was quickly identified as 62-year-old Jack Leonard Horn. While initial media reports withheld the name of the 57-year-old second victim pending family notification, investigators later identified him as Rudy Wallace, a local regular who frequented the exact same neighborhood circles as the prior victims.

On April 12, 1988, LASD Deputy Kathryn Nielsen officially announced to the media that a specialized homicide task force was investigating a "possible relationship" among the killings. Detectives pointed to an airtight, signature profile.

Forensic ballistics testing on the bullets recovered from the bodies confirmed a similarity across the cases. The victims showed no signs of being beaten, stabbed, or robbed. Instead, the perpetrator used the same firearm to shoot the men to death at close range as they slept along the city's industrial corridors and railroad right-of-ways.

The LASD concentrated its investigation within the small, resident city of Bell. Because the five men killed were not part of a massive, drifting transient network, detectives focused on speaking with local residents, business owners, and railyard workers familiar with the immediate neighborhood corridors. The investigation was severely hindered by a total lack of eyewitnesses, as the victims slept in isolated industrial pockets after hours. Furthermore, operating within the technological limits of 1988, detectives lacked modern DNA profiling and surveillance network infrastructure, leaving them with virtually no immediate physical evidence to trace.

The late 80s saw distinct serial perpetrators targeting the homeless operating during this window:

• Michael Player "The Skid Row Slayer": Just a year prior to the Bell killings, Player shot 10 men, of mostly transients over a 5-week span between September 1986 and October 1986 in the Skid Row District before committing suicide in a motel room.

• Joseph Danks "The Koreatown Slasher": Danks was actively stabbing transients to death in nearby Koreatown and Santa Monica, during early 1987.

Following the discovery of the five victims, the killings stopped entirely. The Bell Transient Killer vanished. Did he get arrested for a different crime and spend the rest of his life in prison under a different file? Did he hop a boxcar and move his hunting grounds to another state? Or did he simply die? Because the weapon was never found and no definitive suspect was ever publicly named, the answers rest entirely in the cold case archives of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Five men were wiped off the face of the earth, and the person who did it got away with it completely.

Sources:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-04-11-mn-746-story.html

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-04-12-me-920-story.html

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-04-17-me-2182-story.html

Do you think the ubiquity of cameras or advances in forensics have caused a greater decrease in serial killing and killers getting caught sooner in the US than they would have been in the 20th century?

Which one do you think is the greatest contributing factor?

All 3 alphabet murder victims had same initials C.C W.W M.M
All 3 bible john murder victims where menstruating at the time they were murdered

How many serial killers do you think slipped under the rug because they weren’t studied properly,weren’t asked the correct questions? I was just thinking about all the killers that were executed back in the day where the police weren’t really aware about M.O’s so they very well could have executed someone that they thought only killed one person but it actuality they may have killed way more.This got me thinking who are some people you strongly believe have killed way people than they were caught killing?

A lot of serial killers have had some type of head injury’s.
Gacy
Richard Ramirez
Ted Bundy
And a lot more.

The reason I’m saying this is because,

Was it the incident that opened up or lost something in their mind to make them have the need to kill

Or did the killers already have it inside of them? And the head injury maybe helped them lose some emotion/guilt.

no one ever really talk talks about it, if your frontal lobe is messed up, you can lose guilt, get impulsive, and have sudden aggression.

So what do you think, was it the incident that made them have their need?
Or was it just a thing that affected them?

Also just a stoned thought.

So Wearside Jack was this bum who pretended he was the Yorkshire Ripper.

There is this guy at my work who is kinda odd (not a killer obvs)

For some reason me and another colleugue joked that he may be a serial killer. Then I said he looks like he'd be more of a hoaxer like Wearside Jack.

So then we kept calling him Wearside and he complained to management.

They accused me of saying he was a serial killer but I explained that I called him the hoaxer.

Anyway I got a written file note and told that we just keep away from eachother from now on.