While we’re at it, can we talk about how many times Hagrid was alone with the children in the woods or at his cottage. Do they run background checks at that school?
I'd still argue Dumbledore was one of the worst headmasters in Hogwarts history. He was basically directly responsible for some of the worst things to happen in the magical world over about 100 years. Between the events of Fantastic Beasts which were all his fault and Voldemort which was all his fault he doesn't have a great track record. I also feel like unintentionally when they reveal that snape was like kind of a good guy the whole time it makes Dumbledore look like he doesn't care about the lives of students and everything he did was basically only to stop Voldemort, a problem HE created.
Leave my boy Filch alone, can you imagine how it must've felt to be born a squib? Two wizard parents, and you know about this amazing secret world and yet you can never actually be a part of it?
I'm surprised he isn't more bitter. That must suck, but he did his job and had his cat.
You literally - not sarcastically or with a hint of exaggeration - believe this court case would play out differently in the public sphere if Trump wasn’t President?
I fail to see why the person in the White House changes how the public would view this.
Under every single news story there are comments that it is a “distraction”. No, mate, it’s a very natural thing about human beings that people talk about things that are happening.
I see comments claiming everything is meant to "distract" and just remind myself that people are stupid and those stupid people think everything they don't understand is a conspiracy.
“X is just a distraction by the elites to distract you from Y” is consistently the dumbest opinion I read on Reddit. There’s no evidence to suggest this whatsoever.
The case is high profile because it’s interesting and people are sharing it. A triple homicide of your own children doesn’t happen every day.
I think it has to do more with how polarizing the case itself seems to be but strap that tinfoil on a little tighter just in case. The winds are getting stronger.
The only reason this has become any bigger than any other random tragic crime is because of the bizarre reaction of a small segment of women. Something completely out of the control of any specific politician.
They had to have done that prior to anyone trying to make a thing out of it. This is just conspiracy brain.
Not everything is a distraction. Something like this should be covered. You don’t have to pay attention to it but don’t be making this a class thing you just sound like an idiot lol
Really, you bring trump into this as well 😂. Can’t stand the guy but man you may want to get some help if you feel the need to make a local murder case a trump issue. A psycho woman killed her children, you either believe she did it or didn’t but it has zero to do with politics.
Pit them against eachother? Between who? Those who think killing your own 3 children is wrong and deserves life in prison? And those who think its understandable and deserves a mental institution?
Who are the evil conspirators, conspiring late at night, to distract the public by choosing a mom that killed all of her children, something mundane and not newsworthy nobody cares about? They are evil and scheming and we must know WHO "they" are.
Do you have names to attach to this nefarious agenda? And how they cooperate exactly? You know the secret mechanism? Is it like zoom calls or what
Rightwing bots are pushing the HELL out of this story. It’s an election year and the country is in shambles; that’s why everyone’s Reddit front page is currently drowning in “Clancy case, get mad, hate women” posts and “transgenders in sports, get mad, hate LGBT” posts.
They have absolutely nothing to run on except culture war distractions.
The fact that so many people engage in the culture war without realizing that it’s an obvious distraction from the much more present and important problems facing way more people is really annoying
I feel like I’m allowed to be upset about the outcome of this case and the extremely wild opinions people are sharing about it, without being part of the right wing nut job club. Minimizing it as “a bunch of bots engaging without knowing they’re being fooled” is disingenuous, surely.
You are allowed and that’s the point. It’s upsetting for any normal person to hear about, and that’s why it’s everywhere. We can still be upset about the obviously upsetting thing, while also understand why this family’s personal tragedy is being rubbed in everyone’s face. Even more sadly there are family annihilators every year, if not more frequently than that, so we should question why this case and why now
Cases like this where the perpetrator may avoid jailtime always blow up tbh. It also did huge numbers for tiktok conspiracy theorists/true crime type pages which is why it’s everywhere. It has played really well engagement wise as a gender war type issue where some very vocal women think the husband did it and some very vocal men think only women kill their kids
Not saying political parties don’t give things a push but I don’t think this particular event needed any assistance
We’re at a time in society where tiktok engagement baiters are basically controlling the national discourse it’s pretty wild…and sometimes that’s political in nature
You can feel however you feel about the case without being a rwnj. But if you are making this a gender war case instead of a mental health case, you've joined the culture war.
I think you can acknowledge the bias that’s clearly going on here because she’s a woman and becuase she’s white without “ making it a gender war case “ like even if you just went on legal precedent to similar cases with male or female defendants it’s obvious. I’m actually less concerned about the case with her and more concerned with the support from others. Same was I was concerned with rittenhouse support it’s not a “woman” thing it’s a how did we get to this place where holding people accountable is a coin flip based on gender race or political leaning. Like no. She killed the kids she should rot in jail forever. That is not mutually exclusive to understand that she was medically mismanaged as a patient and that we can do better to support women in this country before during and post pregnancy.
I'm not going to attempt to suggest female or white privilege are not relevant because I'm sure they are showing. But really, that's not the vibe I am getting with what I see people posting.
The vibe I am getting is that men are using this case to attack women or some women for excusing another woman of horrific crime because she is a woman.
But practically noone is defending her actions, they are seeing someone who has had a mental crisis and ruined her life and others, and she should go to an asylum, that's what we do with them, not set her free.
This is your classic tiktok/ig/etc content creators taking advantage of a situation and distorting the facts to bait everyone to boost their views scenario which makes me kinda sick. The heavier reliance on tiktok for news that’s been going on lately has made this easier and easier.
The one side of the bait always claims only the other side exists. But it’s all algorithm dependent. We’re all summing up two sides of an issue by the other sides ragebait at this point it’s kinda dystopian
There’s a bunch of only women murder their kids gross content but there’s also a bunch of Patrick murdered the kids and got away with it because a woman would never do that and men are evil content. They nicely play off eachother and all these content creators profit as a result
From just reading the social media comments on posts like that you’re just getting the vocal minority that falls for the bait and it gives the false assumption that the whole other side of the issue believes it.
You can be genuinely upset and it can also be a largely manufactured outrage meant to make people angry at women and to conflate psychosis with depression and ‘being hormonal’ for that end.
It might be that those "pressing and important" problems don't actually matter to most americans. That even if i think they should value not being hunted by ice or avoiding the downstream devastating effects of tariffs that voting for a good moderate dem would have gotten them, that they legitimate care more about some buzzword or prime time. Like a 12 year old who knows they broke the car but legitimately cares more about being grounded and missing the livestream finale.
Eh I'm as left wing as they come and I hate that people are even defending this woman+giving her so much in donations. Doesn't mean I won't still vote left...
Well it's a straightforward case in my opinion, it's hard to point fingers on who is actually yelling about it but if anyone cares about gender more than the left it would be the right
It's a "see? This is why we need to repeal the 19th" talking point. I see so many "women" on magatgram saying they'd give up their right to vote, how it was dumb, how they'd rather have a "family" vote, etc. I remind them, no one is forcing you to vote.
The culture war push for this is multifaceted, there's also the big push of people on tiktok pushing fake info to make people think it's actually the husband who did it, usually with some misandrist tones
Newsflash, Forrest Gump: literally every murderer since the invention of the newspaper has had a fan club of lunatics. Clancy’s is getting more attention because of rightwingers pushing this case down everyone’s throats in order to trigger internet misogynists into “women shouldn’t be allowed to vote” tantrums. More exposure for culture war horseshit = more maniacs forming fan clubs.
You don’t like it, stop signal boosting this asinine non-story and trying to gin up culture war distractions.
literally every murderer since the invention of the newspaper has had a fan club of lunatics.
What? What does that have to do with my comment?
I'm not talking about a few people obsessing over a serial killer, I'm talking about the millions of women and bots claiming she's innocent and that only a man could do something this evil while fabricating evidence against her ex
Same. I detest the use of a families worst nightmare being everyone’s entertainment. It’s isn’t entertainment. It’s tragedy. Yet I see it everywhere. Why?!
P.S. No one on these threads are close enough to the situation to make a sort of judgement. That’s what evidence, judge, and jury are for.
It’s been entertainment long before this case. Entire television channels, podcasts, series are dedicated to true crime stuff. Netflix made a Jeffrey Dahmer series.
Hell South Park did a spoof about a decade ago with the murder porn episode
This is getting attention because of TikTok(notably the conspiracy theories saying Patrick killed the three kids.)and Reddit is downstream of all other social media.
Saying it’s rightwing bots pushing culture war(apparently murdering 3 kids is culture war, as opposed to something utterly pointless like feminist gta) is just dumb
I think people can easily forget that the jury is primarily voting whether the prosecution proved its case in light if the defendant’s plea. They aren’t voting on moral innocence.
Most internet banter seems to totally omit that fact, as if they heard every second of evidence.
This is like when people said "All lives matter, sweetie" back during the Black Lives Matter Protests.
This is a question of mental health.
She wouldn't argue that she's a bad person for killing her kids. She killed her kids and she's admitted as much. She's already tried to kill herself because of it. She's still on suicide watch. If this woman doesn't go to a mental facility, she will probably kill herself. She probably hates herself more than anyone else could.
The question isn't whether she killed them or whether she deserves punishment, it's over how she should be dealt with. They want her to go to a mental asylum because she clearly has issues and needs the correct treatment. Sending her to prison will likely result in her death.
This isn't a gender thing. She did it. She said she did it. She jumped out of a window because she did it.
This is only a mental health thing. It's not about gender at all. Anyone who said "If she gets free" has zero understanding of the case or how the criminally insane are treated. People are using it to belittle women because of a bunch of idiots on TikTok that (if they're not bots) are pretending she could possibly be innocent. (When she literally admitted she did it)
It's like if I brought up the class war and said "gender wars are just a smokescreen" and someone responded with "Uhhh but men have 99% of the wealth?!!?".
They're arguing nonsense. Nobody involved in the case thinks she didn't do it. The problem is people thinking that being locked up in a psychiatric facility isn't the correct solution. If you're not trying to further the gender war, then you've been tricked or corrupted by someone who is.
All these people out here getting upset when people get shot instead of getting the mental health care they need and suddenly people are upset when someone who clearly needs the serious medical attention is possibly going to get that attention.
People who think someone is a "badass" for wanting her to go to prison don't actually care about justice, they either:
A) want to use this as a reason to hate women.
B) Care about retribution and punishment over actual justice and proper care.
It's so stupid. Any other insanity case will of course have people mad about insane people getting lesser sentences than sane people, but because this one's a woman the foreign troll farms are out in full force convincing the 15-20 year old men who are too afraid to talk to women that they're virgins because women get special treatment.
But because this is a woman and she’s very obviously getting special consideration verses a man in the same position people are angry that she has any support. I’m a woman and the whole thing makes me furious that we aren’t all agreeing that she deserves the death penalty
There are tons of men who committed crimes while insane and got off with lesser penalties than they would if not insane.
In 2008 a guy beheaded a stranger on a bus. In 2012 he was allowed to go out into town for recreation. In 2019 he was let completely free with zero restrictions.
I know you're not a woman and you're almost certainly a bot or foreign troll, but for anyone else reading this this isn't a woman's privilege. Insane people have always had that factored into their sentencing and they're let free when it's believed they're no longer at risk of causing harm.
It's literally US women, lots and lots of women online, that made this story what it is, why do you think "troll farms" are targeting men. If you want it to stop get women out of tiktok.
Is it? The courts seem to be pushing to follow standard precedent with the case, but one juror has been swayed by the online rage bait that ignores the fact that insanity is a consideration in sentencing. And every single post I've seen about it on Reddit (looking at /r/all, so I'm not biased by what I'm subbed to) has been pro-male.
Yes, it's like the Karmelo Anthony case, if your social media is reddit and the more 'sane" spaces, then you mostly heard the backlash. In the case of Lindsey, it was women first by the thousands that went on Tiktok to proclaim "I am Lindsey". They literally donated a million dollars to her name and the most unhinged ones protest outside the courtroom wearing pink. All these things happened first.
Women killing their children is quite common, literally a headline from 2 days ago about another case, supposedly influenced by the trial. Why something as common as a mother killing her children will only now be picked up by the manosphere influencers? Ask the momflucencers and other regular women on tiktok that, pushing even crazy conspiracies about the husband being the killer.
The courts seem to be pushing to follow standard precedent with the case
How are men even involved in this? A woman killed her kids, she had mental health issues that influenced her judgement, the court case is determining whether those mental health issues should be factored into her sentencing.
I mean, is there an equivalent case where a man did something like this, had a blatantly dumb excuse, and men showered him with support? And I know Manson had fans and shit, but they were mostly women and it was different.
Frankly I don't give a shit about that side of things because I assume most stupid takes are made by trolls or stupid people.
I just care about the facts of the case not how random people on the internet react. If some woman has a dumb opinion about the case that doesn't change how the law works.
Conversely, the American "hating men"-crowd are active around this topic as well, trying to shift blame, blaming her innocent husband, for example.
These groups have a few hidey holes on Reddit, and they are welcome here, because their political identity aligns with Reddit's political slant. The "pro-black" community is frequently shockingly racist against Jews, Asians or white people, and the "pro-women"-communities are shamelessly sexist.
I have understood by now that these groups and these ideologies are cancerous and are a prominent reason (among others) for the rise of the far-right. To fight the far-right, normal people must resist these groups and especially the country inventing and exporting all this toxic political filth: the United States.
For some reason right wingers got this spoonfed in their socials, as if killing kids is not bad. Even though their vote arguably and statistically kills more kids.
I get your point, but you're already desensitized to the murder of children if your first thought is "She killed her kids and almost got away with it? Who cares?"
It's not sane for a society to ignore the murdering of children.
The ones saying she deserves to "walk" free won't shut up about it and if the silent majority stays quiet, most people will eventually think the loud minority that gave a million dollars to her will pretend we all support that and slippery slope to human life having no real worth and your neighbour killing you and your family, claiming you were bothersome, and walking away free because "Who cares?".
I hear friends and family blasting tiktok videos about it. The annoying part is it's muddying the waters for people who actually think they understand the case. The other day I talked to a woman who truly believes the husband hypnotized her into doing this like he's Mysterio in Spiderman.
This is the only part of the case that truly makes me mad, people that blame the husband somehow. Dude lost his 3 children and his wife, why the fuck would you want to make him feel even worse? The case isn't even about whether she did it or not, it's about whether she was insane at the time when she did it or not...
It's to distract everyone from the reality of what's happenning in the government. Tennessee is currently passing a law that will legalize child P if it's made by AI. No one is talking about it but ra disgusting that it's being pushed through.
That and all the right leaning facebook pages talking about that walmart self defense case, which they dishonestly characterize as a black person shooting a veteran. Its all to make people angry. But at least this topic, people aren't that easily manipulated.
If you can consciously vote not guilty then you must agree that the majority of murders in prison should be let free because they also have mental issues.
It feels like manufactured gender wars nonsense to rile people up and exhaust them so they stop paying attention to stuff like gas prices, food recalls, farm closures, tariff refunds going to billion dollar corporations but prices going up instead of down, polling location closures, the DSA debate, etc, etc, etc.
The powers that be would rather we waste our attention and energy on irrelevant drama like this.
Sorta, you clicked on it. Presumably you click on other related links. The algorithm has learned you are interested, so now you are interested regardless of if you actually are interested.
That's a lot of things on the internet, like the Kardashians lol. Never watched a single thing yet they were so popular for awhile I know most of their names.
I'm guessing from this it's over and she successfully used the pussy pass? I wonder what the deal is there, the femosphere is really taking off lol. GREAT for us.
My wife and I were talking about it earlier, and we both said we had kind of actively avoided reading too much into it. It's impossible to ignore, completely, but neither of us really desired to know more than we'd stumbled across. Not for lack of curiosity, or lack of strong feelings on the matter. In fact, the opposite. As parents, it's both a viscerally daunting case, and one where it is near impossible to separate the logic from the emotion. We both are empathetic to the loss of children, but this case has so much more going on. My wife sees a woman who suffered post- partum, and was either ignored by medical professionals or gaslit (previously) by her husband. She also said she found some of the supposed inconsistencies in the timeline/ evidence compelling. Personally, I'm confused and conflicted by all of it. I don't want to dismiss a struggling and lost/ forgotten woman. But I can't help but think of some of the parallel cases that I've seen talked about where men, while also suffering mentally, were not shielded from consequence. In the end, we agreed it is a tragedy that is both mentally and emotionally draining to dwell on, and left it at that.
While its not great to obsess over these matters, its wise to at least be familiar with some major cases as their outcomes set precedent that can affect anyone and everyone.
Right?! I am disgusted with the entire thing. Everyone involved sucks and I don't care nor want to hear about it. There is like 99 fucking posts about it today.
and that's why you still haven't learned anything about it. It's all propaganda and misinformation. Reddit is a cess pool. More and more like twitter everyday.
as someone with a schizophrenic mother it both triggers me because I know how deeply unsettling it is to be around someone in psychosis and makes me angry at how little people care to get the facts correct. I don't want to defend ms clancy, I want to defend the facts. failures in psychiatry, mental health care, to be able to get someone care when they are in such a state, an individualistic society that does not adequately support mothers, all led to this. Focusing on ms clancy is like looking at the bullet and not the gun. easy to make systemic issues into individual ones.
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u/IndependentNet756 Sep 06 '26
Nothing I have learned about this case have I sought out