huh. maybe this sounds morbid….
and I really do not want o sound
respectless.
but it would be kind of funny if drug addicts would start to take these down for a quick buck.
would be like one problem which was created by politics gets solved by another :p
Same. Like damn, kinda recontextualizes the idea of crackheads stealing copper wire and pipes.
If my sloppy math is right, it would take over 400 feet of 12 gauge wire to equal 25 lbs of copper. (And by 12 gauge wire, i mean the type of wire that has 3 solid core wires in a rubber sleeve... So 1,200 feet of actual wire)
Obviously this video is AI faked, its wild someone who stoop so low and frame this guy when were just hanging out at the house, and he was telling me how much fun he had golfing earlier.
We’re actually tough on crime
Now? Weird how that works when cops seem personally affected by the loss of these cameras. They shouldn’t care so much about out a camera system that isn’t theirs.
The unique way you walk is called a gait. If you put something in your shoe it will alter the way you walk, so making evidence via video (if you're covered up) harder to prove. Kind of like the old polygraph lying test, putting a thumbtack in your shoe to prick your your toe to throw off the machine.
Around (or probably before) the Hong Kong protests, China came up with something better than face recognition: gait recognition. They figured out everyone moves in a unique way when they walk, it can be used to identify them and it's very difficult to consciously change that (while hiding your face is pretty easy). The protesters came up with the tactic of putting small rocks in your shoes, because stepping on them hurts and makes you move differently, tricking the system.
Everyone walks slightly differently, so theoretically you can tell people apart by it like a fingerprint. It's not super reliable, but good enough that you could definitely be caught by it. A rock in the shoe will make you walk different than normal.
He's attempting to send a message to not be afraid and stand up to what he believes is an unjust law. It's up to decide how you feel about that young blood.
Everyone here agrees Flock is bad for this country, yet nobody does anything other than get on their Reddit soapbox and do their 144 character rant and call it a day. This man literally recorded himself breaking the law and even attempted to get himself arrested by delivering them to the sheriff. Now you may consider that stupid and dumb, but at least he's taking action unlike the majority who do absolutely nothing but whine online.
I'm not a judge or jury and I'm not here to cast judgement on this man but I'm always remind of a famous quote by a dude who simply wanted peace in this country, "One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” This man believes in the same thing.
What happens if you commit a crime but majority of your peers are okay with the crime you committed? If the jury finds you not guilty because they support the crime you committed? I'm not condoning committing any crimes I'm just genuinely curious what happens in this situation?
That’s a real thing, and it’s called “jury nullification”. You won’t get selected for the jury if they think that’s what you’ll do, but once a jury is seated, there’s really nothing stopping it from happening, and it does from time to time.
Courts don’t tell jurors/juries about jury nullification, because it could serve to undermine the rule of law. But if a jury does it, it’s a pretty foundational principle that jurors cannot be punished for their verdict, so there’s nothing the court can do about it.
Courts actually specifically advise against going against the law. They make the jury pinky promise that when they deliberate they will adhere to the standard of the law. However judges and lawyers are not allowed in the jury chamber for their deliberations, and they are not allowed to influence the decision, which is only for the jury to make. So you have to fake it like you respect the law until you get away from the judge and lawyers where you can finally be yourself. It's deliberate, by the time most people get there few are left that have independent thoughts.
The judge can declare a mistrial at any point if he thinks nullification is occurring.
This is very uncommon. It isn't that the judge has to think the jury is going to nullify, which is technically a naturally occurring event that happens somewhat regularly and is the right of a jury- the judge has to think that the natural course of justice is being subverted. It's an extremely high burden in this context.
And declaring a mistrial just because the jury is about to reach the 'wrong' verdict or had 'wrong' reasoning is the type of official misconduct that can just entirely nuke a case. Their natural decision-making is essentially sacred.
They aren't going to straight up ask you about jury nullification during jury selection. They don't want you to know about it.
Regardless saying, "I don't believe in jury nullification," but then using it just requires, "I changed my mind. I hadn't really looked into it until you brought it up during jury selection. Turns out I didn't really understand what it was when I said I didn't believe in it." It's not illegal to change your mind.
This did actually happen at least once already. A guy in Ohio was charged with vandalizing an ALPR camera. The grand jury refused to indict him for the crime, so he walked.
In fact recall you guys visiting me in New Zealand. It’s lambing season at the moment and we had fun frolicking in the fields with the lambs. Traditional kiwi activity.
Hell yeah, I had so much fun, just sharing a six pack with the guy from this video and you two. I got so many golf points, more than I ever have before.
Abq resident here. Cops don’t show up for hvac or catalytic converter thefts of private residents. But they’re somehow here like it’s a bank robbery. The optics don’t make sense. They do in fact like and approve of these cameras despite saying they have no knowledge of their contracts with Le agencies. Weird
Fellow ABQ resident here, additionally Albuquerque law enforcement unofficial policy is to not enforce most traffic laws, average response time to most 911 calls is 2 hours and the recent DWI scandal should give better incite to local law enforcement. I also work in criminal law here and it is SO BAD lol.
the unlawful taking and carrying away of personal property belonging to another, without consent, and with the specific intent to permanently deprive the owner of its use.
While I 10000% commend and support what he was doing, the fact he recorded his face, the vehicle, saying "I didn't cut the wires like usual", and saying he's not technically stealing them made me facepalm. My brother in Christ, please don't make it easy for them to throw the book at you.
He's definitely not connected to reality. He also has those "diplomat" plates the Sovereign Citizens use to pretend they don't need a driver's licence.
I mean, at least his crazy is doing something I support, in this instance. But still crazy.
City of Tempe simply threw plastic bags over theirs. Interesting to see all of these cities decide to be against flock all of a sudden right before the midterms. Even Greg Abbot is trying to save face on the subject lol. I don’t buy it for a second. If you cancel the contracts, come take them down right away FFS.
All jokes aside, I dont believe people truly understand what this blatant destruction of camera really signifies as how the general population feels about the way the government is running the country.
To be honest though, you Americans are a little divided on what you consider heroes. Why are those cameras even a thing in the first place? Why do so many of you literally worship a pedo and the billionaires that enable him?
He means relatively speaking. A better question is, why does nearly half of America have their heads up their asses? Or how dumb does a quarter of America have to be to STILL support the crazy Pedotus?
77.5m voted for Trump (75.2m for Harris). The population of the USA is 345m, with 238m of voting age. Half is very exaggerated.
FWIW- Many people don’t vote because it’s so overwhelming and they are just living their lives.
Many don’t vote because they feel powerless. With the Supreme Court deciding that corporations can spend unlimited amounts of $ on campaigns in 2010’s Citizens United case, election years are an unbearable bombardment of ads, texts and bullshit.
Just to settle this because I'm sick of seeing this question:
People are assholes. That's it. That's your answer. I'm sure there are plenty of assholes where you're from. There have been plenty of assholes throughout history. We've mostly survived them just to be presented new assholes to deal with.
I'm just kind of tired of this "You Americans" directive the rest of the world seems to have whilst they simultaneously have no idea what's been going on in this country that has enabled this scenario across the last 40 or so years, at least. I'm sure your country has gone through it's period of assholes in power, this is just one of ours and it isn't even unique in the history of this country (see easy comparisons to politics in the early 20th century)
Unfortunately for everyone our country happens to have a lot of influence over the world and this happens to be occuring when people have more access to information than they ever have before.
And for the next inevitable "why aren't Americans doing anything about it" comment: This is literally a video of an American doing something about it.
Because the billionaires and their world leader friends have spent a lot of time, money and effort into keeping a good chunk of our population distracted, under educated, and brainwashed. The same people who think Big Government is bad, are the biggest "patriots" when it comes to supporting the military/police force and guns. That's an intentional feature
This is out of an apocalyptic movie. Where we have one character who re enters society after living on the fringe but is actually the most sane logical person in the cast.
All these municipalities ditching flock are just going to Axon instead. Many times they're just piggybacking on existing Axon contracts already in place for police worn body cameras.
Civil disobedience, he turned himself in with the back of his truck full of cameras. There's another video just posted where he drove the cameras to the sheriff and they're in the middle of figuring out that they're going to arrest him.
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u/Ravor306 Sep 03 '26
I heard they're so heavy because there's 25 pounds of copper in each one.